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THEDIRTYBUBBLESmall parks get soooo much fun. My favorite time of the year is early season when there is just small features and mini rails. It feels like skating. I've had way more fun hiking/lapping our small setups rather than the big park. I feel like west coasters will never understand how much fun tow rope laps really are
Titus69I wish my mountain had a rope tow but luckily were small and have a high speed quad. Night lapping is also the best, I know some out west have it too like boreal (I think) and park city but it's so fun to cruise with the goggles off and hot lap without being serious and just sick around on the rails then just whipping down to the lifts with no Jerry's to worry about
GORILLAWALLACEbut I hate when there is fresh snow it ruins the speed in the park!!
dan4060Why on earth are you in the park when there is fresh snow? On second thought, stay there.
GORILLAWALLACEI like how the season is only 3 months long so I have so much time for other stuff
but I hate when there is fresh snow it ruins the speed in the park!!
THEDIRTYBUBBLESmall parks get soooo much fun. My favorite time of the year is early season when there is just small features and mini rails. It feels like skating. I've had way more fun hiking/lapping our small setups rather than the big park. I feel like west coasters will never understand how much fun tow rope laps really are
Ski_The_East.Glade Skiing. No matter what you say, East coast glades with a foot of fresh can not be topped by any other glade anywhere in the US. Maybe in the world.
Josh__PeckWell on the east/in the midwest
"Fresh snow" = 1.5 inches on top of grass/ice
Oh and every run has a slope of 5°
So yeah I think I will stay in the park
.frenchywhere on the east coast is your season 3 months long? im from CT and its dec-early april usually. VT/NH/ME is like nov-may
GORILLAWALLACEthe season in ontario for most resorts usually runs late december-early march. this year my hill was only open for 10 weeks. but ontario isn't really the east coast I suppose.
californiagrownPlease explain further?
Ski_The_East.Glade Skiing. No matter what you say, East coast glades with a foot of fresh can not be topped by any other glade anywhere in the US. Maybe in the world.
PeppermillRenoMountains only worth a day trip but too far to day trip. Lack of natural snow and pow days. Too many trees lol at people who think there is back country in New England its tight as fuck and shitty bottom line simply little/no above tree line skiing. And when the cocksuckers groom the entire fucking mountain on pow days.
Won't bitch about anything else because at least its not the midwest.
.frenchywhere is too far for a day trip??? where are you skiing backcountry???
go ski mt washington and then tell me there is no above tree line skiing, guy.
SessionYou can sport a Ski The East sticker.....The end.
Randy_QuenchAlthough I don't share his negative opinion on the East, he does have a point. With the exception of Tucks there really isn't any "above tree line" skiing on the east. Sugarloaf claims they do but really they just torched the summit a hundred years ago.
.frenchywhere is too far for a day trip??? where are you skiing backcountry???
go ski mt washington and then tell me there is no above tree line skiing, guy.
PeppermillRenoNothing beats doing the elephant walk up Mt Washington with a couple thousand of your closest friends on a spring Saturday when there is guaranteed to be avvy's all over the place because of fuck heads who want to 'earn' their turns going places they shouldn't.
The hills are simply very restrictive you are stuck to trails or specifically gladed out trees. 6-7 hours in the car to ski for a day is too much IMO.
PeppermillRenoNothing beats doing the elephant walk up Mt Washington with a couple thousand of your closest friends on a spring Saturday when there is guaranteed to be avvy's all over the place because of fuck heads who want to 'earn' their turns going places they shouldn't.
The hills are simply very restrictive you are stuck to trails or specifically gladed out trees. 6-7 hours in the car to ski for a day is too much IMO.
Randy_QuenchAre you driving from the fucking Carolinas? Where the hell are you taking day trips that are 6-7 hours away? I grew up in southern NH and could make it to any east coast resort within half that amount of time. Even from Boston you can get to the major mountains in 4 hours or less. I'd argue that with the current state of i70 the east coast's ski commute is better than most of Colorado's.
Randy_QuenchAre you driving from the fucking Carolinas? Where the hell are you taking day trips that are 6-7 hours away? I grew up in southern NH and could make it to any east coast resort within half that amount of time. Even from Boston you can get to the major mountains in 4 hours or less. I'd argue that with the current state of i70 the east coast's ski commute is better than most of Colorado's.
californiagrownThe ghetto is not better than an affluent city, and east coast skiing is not better in any way than west coast skiing.
If the best thing about east coast skiing is the barely skiable tight trees and underbrush... yikes.
PeppermillRenoI was talking round trip dude.
3 hours out and 3 hours back means 6 hours in the car.
Remember I said 'DAY' trips.
Randy_QuenchOkay, that makes more sense. But this is still an awful argument on east vs west. Commutes exist regardless of coast, take my last example of i70. A 3 hour commute from Denver is going to get you better skiing than a 3 hour commute from Boston, but we aren't arguing terrain here. I agree that the east is most certainly not the mecca of North American Freeskiing.
PeppermillRenoNothing beats doing the elephant walk up Mt Washington with a couple thousand of your closest friends on a spring Saturday when there is guaranteed to be avvy's all over the place because of fuck heads who want to 'earn' their turns going places they shouldn't.
The hills are simply very restrictive you are stuck to trails or specifically gladed out trees. 6-7 hours in the car to ski for a day is too much IMO.
Titus69lol a 3 hour commute from Boston gets you 8 runs and a lot of waiting in line at Loon
Randy_QuenchOkay, that makes more sense. But this is still an awful argument on east vs west. Commutes exist regardless of coast, take my last example of i70. A 3 hour commute from Denver is going to get you better skiing than a 3 hour commute from Boston, but we aren't arguing terrain here. I agree that the east is most certainly not the mecca of North American Freeskiing.
.frenchythen go late spring when its not crowded and no avy's :-)
Randy_QuenchKillington is 2h45 and SR is 3h15 from Boston and are arguably the largest "destination/day trip" resorts in the east.
Loon is great but yeah it gets crowded on weekends and vacation weeks. Learn to avoid the crowds. Kanc laps are your friend, avoid the gondi, don't take a lunch break at lunch time. I've skied upwards of 150 days at Loon in the last two seasons (claim?) and crowds rarely get the best of me.
Connor_SullivanEast Coast small mountain vibes are hard to beat, Its so welcoming almost like a home. Obviously the West coast terrain is far superior but you can't match the personalities on the east
PeppermillRenoI think its this.
Powder days are powder days and great wherever bomb on the east coast too though less frequent.
But when its early season and nowhere on the planet is great and you are on man made or if its spring and nice weather you can take tons of laps and ride up with chill people and not have to fly to the Western USA to ski. And you can do this midseason on even the biggest and busiest weekends at every single smaller mountain in New England.
Lots of laps to be had and if you go to the bigger places you get long runs and fast lifts.
californiagrownSure, cause wet slides certainly never happen in spring...
dan4060I don't ski park so I don't think growing up in the east made me a better skier than I would be out west. I think if I had lived in the bay and skied Squaw 20-25 days a year it would have made me better than skiing Hunter, Bel Eayre (spelling) Killington and Mt. Snow 20-25 days a year. Back east you ski more ice but the terrain out west is much steeper. I also really struggled with powder and crud (this was in the era of skinny skis) when I moved out west. But skiing est coast bumps and glades will definitely make one a good skier if you work hard. Skiing that type of terrain is tough. If I were a park skier growing up back east might have made me better, I don't know one way or the other, but I don't think I'm qualified to judge.
Growing up back east will definitely make you appreciate the western mountains when you move west. I don't know if the people I skied with who grew up skiing Squaw on the weekends appreciate what they had as much as they should have. Because I grew up skiing icy bumps on slopes that were not all that steep, although they felt steep at the time, I really appreciate a big steep mountain. I am a weekend warrior now and I think my ski lease mates who grew up in Denver or San Francisco or Seattle really don't know how good they had it. I imagine it is like that for Florida surfers who move to California. I started surfing late in life, in college, and Santa Barbara, where I learned has a much smaller summer swell window than Orange County or San Diego. Santa Barbara has some incredible waves, some very long point breaks, they just don't break very often and almost never in the summer. In the summer you have to drive up to Jalama or south to Ventura. Because of this I really appreciate living in Orange County, which has consistent swell in both the summer and winter, because you can surf almost everyday if you want to. Surfers from Florida are the same, they appreciate consistent swell because they did not get it growing up.
There is a great vibe at some of the smaller east coast mountains, but you can find that out west too. Go to the places near Seattle, or Loveland near Denver, or Bridger Bowl, or Solitude and you will find a low key vibe of people who really love to ski. There are lots of other places that are similar in the west. Those places have great terrain and are small on real estate development and amenities. You just have to stay away from the western mega resorts.