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Should lift ticket waivers include all collisions

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MIHoodlum
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This story only makes me want to get harder on snakes.
http://snowbrains.com/colorado-skier-ordered-to-pay-over-250k-for-reckless-skiing-incident-at-keystone-co/
Oct 26 2016 4:55PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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MIHoodlumThis story only makes me want to get a hard on for snakes.
http://snowbrains.com/colorado-skier-ordered-to-pay-over-250k-for-reckless-skiing-incident-at-keystone-co/


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Oct 26 2016 5:29PM
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eheath
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You don't think the guy who ran into the jerry is at fault? Downhill skier always has the right of way, this dude was clearly in the wrong, so he should suffer the consequences?

Doesn't seem right that the guy who got smoked by some asshole isn't entitled to compensation for such incident, it's just unfortunate that the dude got hurt, but that's a risk you take trying to weave between jerry's at high speed.
Oct 26 2016 5:37PM
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eheath
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And on top of that you think the ski resort should be liable for this? If some dude gets smoked and is hurt, the ski resort's waiver should just make this okay and everyone moves on? Dude come on.
Oct 26 2016 5:39PM
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a_burger
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the amount of $$$ he wants is kinda weird but this is like the only time a skiing lawsuit makes sense
Oct 26 2016 5:43PM
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SkiBum.
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Ski area law suits are a junk show these days. You can sue for anything. There is no waver. You don't sign for shit. The amount of ass holes that sue for just about anything is amazing.
Oct 26 2016 6:53PM
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Lonely
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I don't see the issue.Skier skis reckless, hurts someone else, and was held liable for it. I'm all for going fast but the uphill skier does have responsibility, unless the downhill skier is merging.
Oct 26 2016 8:17PM
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Dddsz
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Every Jerry should be sent to a camp in the Mojave, like the Japs during WWII.
Oct 26 2016 10:29PM
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Julius_Steezer
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250k for a dislocation and 3 months off work is crazy though. The dude who paid is now fucked
Oct 27 2016 6:50AM
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SkiBum.
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You sign for your season pass.

Most resorts these days (larger ones), you sign with a day ticket.
Oct 27 2016 12:40PM
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SkiBum.
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This really doesn't mean much. USA is sue happy.

You would be amazed at shit that people sue over. Most of the time it gets settled out of court. The big ones go to court.
Oct 27 2016 1:00PM
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MIHoodlum
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I am not defending this guy, just think lawsuits could get out of hand.
Oct 27 2016 2:37PM
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McNoche
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MIHoodlumI am not defending this guy, just think lawsuits could get out of hand.


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Oct 27 2016 3:08PM
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SofaKingSick
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There is waiver language on the back of the ticket but from what I've heard that stuff doesn't hold up very well when things actually happen

anyway, i think that text is more to do with trying to free the hill from liability. probably no one will try to tell you the USA isn't sue happy, and this dude is asking for too much IMO, but you can't just make a ski hill a lawless land haha. each case will just need to be dealt with separately
Oct 27 2016 3:16PM
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Gryllz
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eheathYou don't think the guy who ran into the jerry is at fault? Downhill skier always has the right of way, this dude was clearly in the wrong, so he should suffer the consequences?

Doesn't seem right that the guy who got smoked by some asshole isn't entitled to compensation for such incident, it's just unfortunate that the dude got hurt, but that's a risk you take trying to weave between jerry's at high speed.


? the guy who got hit was the one who got the compensation
Oct 27 2016 3:32PM
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eheath
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Gryllz? the guy who got hit was the one who got the compensation


Thats what I said, maybe it was confusing there, but the bottom line is if you hit someone and hurt them, you are liable. Some people will be cool about it, but some jerry ass hole on vacation will probably sue you.
Oct 27 2016 3:34PM
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Gryllz
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eheathThats what I said, maybe it was confusing there, but the bottom line is if you hit someone and hurt them, you are liable. Some people will be cool about it, but some jerry ass hole on vacation will probably sue you.


yea tru that
Oct 27 2016 4:16PM
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clorox
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eheathThats what I said, maybe it was confusing there, but the bottom line is if you hit someone and hurt them, you are liable. Some people will be cool about it, but some jerry ass hole on vacation will probably sue you.


But 250K is excessive. Like I know the dude should be liable for the incident but that's just insane.
Oct 29 2016 4:59PM
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Hugh_Conway_jr
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The waiver protects the ski are from you, the user.

In this case, one user is suing another user .. so the waiver that protects the resort has little to do with it... If you cause a similar injury to a person on the street, I think the settlement would be similar.

250k seems pretty reasonable. fire fighter can make huge cash, over 100k / annum... lost wages, medical expenses and legal fees .. not to mention the trauma associated... if he was a dentist the settlement would have been even higher.
Oct 29 2016 6:07PM
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