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Best chop/crud ski

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jkelley24
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I'm looking to get a new pair of skis. I ski in Utah and I am an advanced skier. I'm 23, 6' 2 and 170lbs. I am looking for a ski in the 100-110ish that will do really well in chop and crud, have a high speed limit, but also be able to easily maneuver and through sideway in the trees. I have been looking at the 4frnt Devastator 194 and 184. Read some reviews on the 194's but haven't seen much on the 184. I've also been looking at the new Moment Meridian. It's looks similar to the Devastator but lighter. What are your thoughts? Any other skis you'd recommend?
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Oct 10 2016 8:11AM
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patagonialuke
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I'd check out the Blizzard Cochise, ON3P Wrenegade 108, Line Supernatural, and Moment Belafonte.

http://blistergearreview.com/index-ski-reviews-sorted-by-type#allmountainskis
- look at the "more damp and stable" sections
Oct 10 2016 9:39AM
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cmo
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my armada norwalks crush...they are also for sale...pm if interested
Oct 10 2016 11:24PM
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TheRacker
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Armada Invictus might be worth a look as well.
Oct 11 2016 12:37AM
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-wakes-
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Devastator or Kartel 108 if you are looking for an all mountain ski with some more freestyle characteristics. I'd look at the ON3P Renegade if you want a more directional ski.
Oct 11 2016 11:01AM
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minihef
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patagonialukeI'd check out the Blizzard Cochise, ON3P Wrenegade 108, Line Supernatural, and Moment Belafonte.

http://blistergearreview.com/index-ski-reviews-sorted-by-type#allmountainskis
- look at the "more damp and stable" sections


Second for Blizzard Cochise. Those in a 192 would provide everything you seem to be looking for.
Oct 12 2016 12:30AM
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marrows
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cmomy armada norwalks crush...they are also for sale...pm if interested


But not the best for chop or crud. Great skis nonetheless.
Oct 12 2016 3:16AM
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profa_212
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lighter usually isnt better when you are looking for a damp and stable ski. Id go with the Devs. I had the 184 and they were one of the best skis ive ever rode.
Oct 12 2016 12:25PM
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dugo
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I have a pair of Cochises and they shred in NZ crud. Just beast through anything
Oct 13 2016 2:51AM
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fully_tilted56
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Line Opus 184 ride out switch in any crud or blower with no chatter on groom and just do it like Pollard!
Oct 13 2016 11:55PM
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BirtDike
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191 HEAD Monster 108 or 192 Dynastar Pro Rider for firmer crud

189 Billy Goat or 196 Moment Governor for softer chop and crud
Oct 14 2016 8:45PM
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haggis_hunter
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Home rockered Volk explosivs, I sold my legend pro 105s after riding my splosivs.
Oct 15 2016 5:47AM
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OG.40
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Armada JJ 2.0
Oct 16 2016 4:12PM
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Session
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GiorgiArmada JJ 2.0


Fucking clueless
Oct 16 2016 4:21PM
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BirtDike
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SessionFucking clueless


Hahahah. One of best response ls on NS this fall.

Throw On3p Wrenegades(pick your width), onto the list.
Oct 16 2016 4:50PM
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minihef
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LamafamaHome rockered Volk explosivs, I sold my legend pro 105s after riding my splosivs.


Haha, a friend of mine tip rockered and home-made swallow-tailed a pair.
Oct 16 2016 7:56PM
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stinky_cheese
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this thread is only gonna make your decision harder. just send the devastators and you'll be happy. i can't say one bad thing about this ski
Oct 17 2016 1:56AM
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OG.40
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SessionFucking clueless

you'd better watch your words dickhead
Oct 17 2016 6:14AM
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OG.40
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Armada JJ is 117mm waist but it is the best for chop/crud, powder, piste, trees for everything. It has very fast bases and has very short turning radius and is very easy to maneuver.
If you still think it is too wide go for Faction 3.0. The end.
Oct 17 2016 6:30AM
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Session
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GiorgiArmada JJ is 117mm waist but it is the best for chop/crud, powder, piste, trees for everything. It has very fast bases and has very short turning radius and is very easy to maneuver.
If you still think it is too wide go for Faction 3.0. The end.



The JJ has soft tips, a really tight sidecut, and nothing to add dampness. It is just about the antithesis of what makes a good crud ski. It doesn't have a "fast base". It has an industry standard base that is actually on the thin side..Great for getting as many core shots as possible.

Fuck off chode.
Oct 17 2016 10:48AM
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profa_212
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GiorgiArmada JJ is 117mm waist but it is the best for chop/crud, powder, piste, trees for everything. It has very fast bases and has very short turning radius and is very easy to maneuver.
If you still think it is too wide go for Faction 3.0. The end.


The JJ is up there with the worst skis for chop and crud. The only thing the JJ is useful for is tight trees. No clue how the ski is still around.
Oct 17 2016 11:03AM
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OG.40
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another kid who talk more bullshit and ski less )))
Oct 17 2016 12:38PM
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profa_212
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Giorgianother kid who talk more bullshit and ski less )))


aaannnnd youre a troll
Oct 17 2016 12:40PM
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OG.40
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Profahoben_212aaannnnd youre a troll


ok :D
Oct 17 2016 1:05PM
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.lencon
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Get the devys or the Kartels in a 191/194. You'll be stoked on either
Oct 17 2016 2:15PM
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haggis_hunter
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minihefHaha, a friend of mine tip rockered and home-made swallow-tailed a pair.


Your friend is my kind of loon, I approve immensely. I decambered mine and added a bit of early rise and a tiny bit of taller rocker. Cost me £20 off eBay, hobo mantras I call them.
Oct 17 2016 5:13PM
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Session
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Giorgiyou'd better watch your words dickhead


Bitch please.
Oct 17 2016 5:24PM
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BirtDike
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OP, just get Rax and be done with it.
Oct 18 2016 12:38AM
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SofaKingSick
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GiorgiArmada JJ 2.0


http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/jaguars-fan-cant-believe-it-nfl-fan-gifs.gif
Oct 19 2016 8:50AM
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SofaKingSick
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Titsandwich11http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/jaguars-fan-cant-believe-it-nfl-fan-gifs.gif


haa oops

Oct 19 2016 8:51AM
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patagonialuke
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My reaction exactly
Oct 19 2016 12:13PM
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nutz.
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GiorgiArmada JJ is 117mm waist but it is the best for chop/crud, powder, piste, trees for everything. It has very fast bases and has very short turning radius and is very easy to maneuver.
If you still think it is too wide go for Faction 3.0. The end.


the faction 3.0 isn't great in chop/crud either... super fun ski though
Oct 19 2016 3:12PM
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WPMatt
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jkelley24I'm looking to get a new pair of skis. I ski in Utah and I am an advanced skier. I'm 23, 6' 2 and 170lbs. I am looking for a ski in the 100-110ish that will do really well in chop and crud, have a high speed limit, but also be able to easily maneuver and through sideway in the trees. I have been looking at the 4frnt Devastator 194 and 184. Read some reviews on the 194's but haven't seen much on the 184. I've also been looking at the new Moment Meridian. It's looks similar to the Devastator but lighter. What are your thoughts? Any other skis you'd recommend?

Hands down the Atomic Ritual, or Blizzard Cochise. If you are looking for a crud buster that will blast through anything, any day, these are the skis for you.
Oct 20 2016 11:31AM
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50Kal
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On3p billy goat. But it is directional.
Oct 20 2016 5:30PM
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