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dope_boyI agree with OP, maybe the best boot for people like Candide or Jossi is a race boot with more support that fits them best, but thats not the case for about 90% of the people on this site.
onenerdykidCandide wears an original SPK still, because it fits him. Full Tilts don't work for him, he tried them and didn't like them because they didn't fit him well enough.
Jossi wears a 98mm commercial "race" boot, because it fits him. He doesn't like wider boots because they don't fit him well enough. He'll soon be in a Hawx Ultra once the season gets going.
What is the case for 100% of the people on this site is that when you get a boot that fits you (meaning your foot shape, calf shape, forward lean needs, weight, strength, ankle range of motion, etc.) you will have an awesome ski boot that will be great for every "playground" of skiing.
When you ignore this criteria and buy a boot for other reasons (looks, marketing hype, etc). you run the risk of being dramatically less comfortable. These are not opinions, these are facts, facts that directly correspond to your enjoyment while skiing.
TaylortylertxThanks for the good tips.... where would you recommend going for a fitting? I live in Taos NM, but I won't go to bootdoctors as a result of their employees having very differing opinions in what is the "right fitting boot".... After purchasing my boots, having them start hurting and returning to the shop for adjustment, the employee looked at me and asked "where did you go to get fitted for these boots? They didn't do a very good job" then they started backtracking and doing damage control after I told them they fit me. They started throwing out a bunch of bootfitter terms that I definitely didn't understand for the purpose of confusing me into thinking I have an extremely difficult foot to fit. They even told me I would probably never ski pain free because of my foot shape.... I find that very hard to believe in 2016.... Technology has come too far for anyone to not be able to find a good boot.... maybe I'm wrong, but intellectually it makes no sense that they told me I will never ski pain free..... I'm heading up to denver to check out a couple different boot fitters in the next week.... any suggestions??
TaylortylertxThanks for the good tips.... where would you recommend going for a fitting? I live in Taos NM, but I won't go to bootdoctors as a result of their employees having very differing opinions in what is the "right fitting boot".... After purchasing my boots, having them start hurting and returning to the shop for adjustment, the employee looked at me and asked "where did you go to get fitted for these boots? They didn't do a very good job" then they started backtracking and doing damage control after I told them they fit me. They started throwing out a bunch of bootfitter terms that I definitely didn't understand for the purpose of confusing me into thinking I have an extremely difficult foot to fit. They even told me I would probably never ski pain free because of my foot shape.... I find that very hard to believe in 2016.... Technology has come too far for anyone to not be able to find a good boot.... maybe I'm wrong, but intellectually it makes no sense that they told me I will never ski pain free..... I'm heading up to denver to check out a couple different boot fitters in the next week.... any suggestions??
onenerdykidUsually the Boot Doctors are really good, but I can fully understand and sympathize with your scenario. It's best to just find another place that you can work with.
I would make the half hour drive out of Denver and go see the guys at Larry's Boot Fitting in Boulder. Super nice staff (in my experience) with a great selection of boots. You will definitely want to call and make an appointment though, just to make sure someone has the time to work with you.
I've heard good things (but only been there once) to Colorado Ski & Golf (I think the Aurora location, but whichever is their flagship store). Staff there seems very knowledgeable with a giant selection of boots.
YoungWookieeJust curious I've been wearing my sidas foot beds in my shoes to break them in is that a bad idea