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Tyrolia Attack 13 vs Marker Griffon

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OG.40
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Hello newschoolers!
Which bindings shall I mount on my Edollos? Which one is better?
Thank you =)
Sep 23 2016 12:00PM
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Zypher
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Attacks by far, don't get marker bindings.
Sep 23 2016 12:10PM
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OG.40
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Could you please tell me the reason?
Sep 23 2016 12:38PM
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Zypher
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GiorgiCould you please tell me the reason?


Sure, the attacks are highly durable and really light. All parts of them are responive and overall they are a solid binding with a low price point which makes it better. ( I have four pairs of attack 13s). Markers on the other hand don't really do me too well. The heel pieces on marker bindings are super weird. It's hard to tell when you're fully clicked in and Ive had lots of problems with griffons in the past. Idk, in general id either go with Attacks, STHs, Axials/PXs, or FKS/Pivots.
Sep 23 2016 1:44PM
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OG.40
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Got it! Thanks mate =)
Sep 23 2016 2:05PM
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Zypher
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GiorgiGot it! Thanks mate =)


Gotcha man. Just remember, if you buy attacks without the brakes make sure to get the "A" brakes from tyrolia in any width. The "B,C, and D" wont work.
Sep 23 2016 2:10PM
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JibbaTheHutt
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2nd for attacks over griffons for basically the same reasons.

attacks are lighter, just as durable and are much more reliable for releasing imo.

i've only had 1 set of griffons but have heard hundreds say about the not sure if you're fully clicked in thing with the heel piece, its super frustrating. Also, griffon butt is a real thing, it isnt nice....
Sep 24 2016 3:34PM
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OG.40
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JibbaTheHutt2nd for attacks over griffons for basically the same reasons.

attacks are lighter, just as durable and are much more reliable for releasing imo.

i've only had 1 set of griffons but have heard hundreds say about the not sure if you're fully clicked in thing with the heel piece, its super frustrating. Also, griffon butt is a real thing, it isnt nice....


Thank you bro =)
Sep 24 2016 4:43PM
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hippystinx
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i had jesters a couple of years ago..and blew through two heel pieces over the course of two years. I bought attack 13s in 2013 i think and I have been riding them ever since and have had zero problems. I repeat zero problems.

so i say attacks...they seem to keep you in when you need it and release when you fall in that awkward spot every time.
Sep 24 2016 4:59PM
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OG.40
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hippystinxi had jesters a couple of years ago..and blew through two heel pieces over the course of two years. I bought attack 13s in 2013 i think and I have been riding them ever since and have had zero problems. I repeat zero problems.

so i say attacks...they seem to keep you in when you need it and release when you fall in that awkward spot every time.


Thank you for your recommendation. I will definitely go for ATTACKs =)
Sep 24 2016 5:55PM
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kung_powpow
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Attacks for sure. I won't be buying griffons anymore after blowing up the heel piece
Sep 29 2016 4:39PM
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OG.40
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One more question, I shall get 110mm for Armada Edollo(it has 98mm waist) right? =)
Sep 30 2016 11:33AM
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SofaKingSick
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GiorgiOne more question, I shall get 110mm for Armada Edollo(it has 98mm waist) right? =)


no, id say get the 95mm brakes-- if you have to bend them out at all, it will only be by a tiny bit. 110mm brakes would be bigger than you want on a 98mm waist
Sep 30 2016 1:45PM
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OG.40
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evo.com stuff recommended 110mm :X damn, don't know what to do
Sep 30 2016 5:51PM
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Zypher
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Giorgievo.com stuff recommended 110mm :X damn, don't know what to do


Get a brake that is able to fit on your skis. If you get a 90 mm brake, just bend it out and if you get a 110 just bend em in slightly
Sep 30 2016 6:18PM
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ABskier
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GiorgiOne more question, I shall get 110mm for Armada Edollo(it has 98mm waist) right? =)


Titsandwich11no, id say get the 95mm brakes-- if you have to bend them out at all, it will only be by a tiny bit. 110mm brakes would be bigger than you want on a 98mm waist


i'm pretty sure the brake for the attack is 97mm. You wont need to bend it.
Oct 1 2016 1:33AM
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OG.40
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so 95mm brakes will be the best option right?
Oct 1 2016 3:28AM
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Zypher
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Giorgiso 95mm brakes will be the best option right?


Either work but 95 is probs the way to go
Oct 1 2016 3:02PM
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grilled_steeze
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Griffons are a little sketchy. My boot moves inside the toe piece with the DIN cranked (professionally mounted and centered with the boot I'm in now). Not to mention they're heavy, and some metal parts were replaced with cheap plastic ones for 2017.

Tyrolia Attacks are light and durable so go with those.
Oct 3 2016 8:44AM
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Muggydude
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The griffon is not heavy. Also, there pretty much weren't any metal pieces to begin with, don't know what they could replace.


That being said, the Griffon is not a good binding and the attacks are much better. Get a 95mm brake for the e-dollos
Oct 3 2016 4:22PM
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ABskier
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grilled_cheeseGriffons are a little sketchy. My boot moves inside the toe piece with the DIN cranked (professionally mounted and centered with the boot I'm in now). Not to mention they're heavy, and some metal parts were replaced with cheap plastic ones for 2017.

Tyrolia Attacks are light and durable so go with those.


check your AFD height. It adjusts with an allen key.
Oct 3 2016 5:45PM
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grilled_steeze
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ABskiercheck your AFD height. It adjusts with an allen key.


thanks. I'll try it tomorrow.
Oct 3 2016 9:25PM
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fully_tilted56
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ABskieri'm pretty sure the brake for the attack is 97mm. You wont need to bend it.


I fit 97mm brakes on 2 or 3 of my 100mm width skis in the past without having to bend them and if you get the 110mm brake on such a narrow ski skiing switch your brakes can catch together I made that mistake not knowing what I was putting on a narrow ski. Don't make my mistake from years ago!
Oct 14 2016 12:36AM
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HomerPimpin
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ZypherGotcha man. Just remember, if you buy attacks without the brakes make sure to get the "A" brakes from tyrolia in any width. The "B,C, and D" wont work.


I know this thread is a couple years old, but I just bought some attack2 13's and I was reading through this thread, would you happen to know why only the A's work and not the other ones?
May 12 2020 7:54PM
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HomerPimpin
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ok thank you
May 12 2020 10:05PM
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piksel
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Since this thread has been dug out...

Has anyone tested recent Markers? Looking at the spec they're twice lighter now and praised for their heel pieces in some reviews (still trading off 7mm of stand height tho). So not sure how much of this 4 yo conversation is applicable now.

Any opinions?

**This post was edited on May 13th 2020 at 8:12:24pm
May 13 2020 8:11PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Attack 13s, had major trouble with heelpiece on markers
May 13 2020 8:38PM
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r00kie
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pikselSince this thread has been dug out...

Has anyone tested recent Markers? Looking at the spec they're twice lighter now and praised for their heel pieces in some reviews (still trading off 7mm of stand height tho). So not sure how much of this 4 yo conversation is applicable now.

Any opinions?

**This post was edited on May 13th 2020 at 8:12:24pm

I have heard better media reviews of the heelpiece recently but nothing strong from "real" people.
May 13 2020 11:28PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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For me the issue was the tracker on the back. I'd butter and itd come off the front of it if I ejected
r00kieI have heard better media reviews of the heelpiece recently but nothing strong from "real" people.
May 13 2020 11:33PM
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echolsdw
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Gonna try revive this thread again as the 2021 griffons have been updated in a way that supposedly isn't just cosmetic. Has anyone mounted these yet, and any noticed improvements? Attack13s still the clear winner?
Jan 14 2021 12:31AM
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anders_a
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I own 10+ of the 2021 griffons, and I've bought them over the attack 13s, but... its preferences
Jan 14 2021 7:36AM
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echolsdw
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anders_aI own 10+ of the 2021 griffons, and I've bought them over the attack 13s, but... its preferences


dang 10+? how do they compare to older griffons?
Jan 14 2021 9:55AM
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anders_a
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honestly they feel the same, minor update on heel piece, for most sking they will be fine, but plastic heel will not take the abuse a metal heel can provide on doing hard hits on rails/big cliffs/jumps

"easier stepin" seems somewhat overrated, but I never had trouble before either, my gf also got them no issues for her either
Jan 14 2021 10:04AM
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echolsdw
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thanks for the quick reply + info, prolly gonna go with whatever I can get a discount on if the refresh doesn't change much
Jan 14 2021 12:05PM
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anders_a
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the attack 13 was on sale for €60 all summer on webstores here, so yeah, griffon was 10-20 more.



I know a lot like the attack, a lot like the griffon ;)
Jan 14 2021 12:31PM
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