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Inbounds touring binding

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jblaski
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I'm looking for a touring binding, that has the ability to handle long days inbounds skiing. For patrolling this year, I'm building up a dedicated pair of skis. I need a touring binding (for out of area rescues) that has the ability *durability* to handle days of inbounds skiing. I'm not looking for a frame binding (Guardian, Duke) but a tech binding.

I've narrowed it down to the Kingpin, Beast, or G3 Ion. Does anyone have an opinion on any of those? or any recommendations of your own?
Sep 21 2016 2:01AM
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SFBv420.0
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Sep 21 2016 8:43AM
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cydwhit
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jblaskiI'm looking for a touring binding, that has the ability to handle long days inbounds skiing. For patrolling this year, I'm building up a dedicated pair of skis. I need a touring binding (for out of area rescues) that has the ability *durability* to handle days of inbounds skiing. I'm not looking for a frame binding (Guardian, Duke) but a tech binding.

I've narrowed it down to the Kingpin, Beast, or G3 Ion. Does anyone have an opinion on any of those? or any recommendations of your own?


OOF

Inbounds bindings are good for inbounds, touring bindings are good for touring. Why aren't you looking at frame bindings? For the use you are describing it makes waaaaay more sense to get on a frame bindings, probably a Guardian or Adrenaline.

What boot are you going to be using?

I wouldn't want to have to ski any of those in the way you're describing, but out of those three the Kingpin is going to ski most like an inbounds binding.

It sounds like you are talking 80% inbounds, 20% touring? For that I would 100% go with a frame binding. It will ski better, be cheaper, be safer, and probably be more durable.
Sep 21 2016 11:13AM
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patagonialuke
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Since the Kingpin and Ion have only been around for a couple years the durability has yet to be completely proven, but I haven't heard of any issues. I know several people that ski Kingpins and Beasts inbounds and like them.

You might also consider the CAST system or Daymakers, depending on how often you think you'll be touring. Both of these would allow for use of durable, all metal bindings like the FKS.
Sep 21 2016 11:23AM
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SFBv420.0
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i ski a durable metal 14 din tech binder in and outta bounds
lighter than kingpins and beast ions or vipecs
based on a time proven design
no gimickey plates or crappy little torax screws holding the heal assembly togather
very few people who tell you you need frame binders, cast systems ,mdf plates or other nonsense
actually ski tech binders in bounds to really know what they're talking about.
Sep 21 2016 11:37AM
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jblaski
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cydwhitOOF

Inbounds bindings are good for inbounds, touring bindings are good for touring. Why aren't you looking at frame bindings? For the use you are describing it makes waaaaay more sense to get on a frame bindings, probably a Guardian or Adrenaline.

What boot are you going to be using?

I wouldn't want to have to ski any of those in the way you're describing, but out of those three the Kingpin is going to ski most like an inbounds binding.

It sounds like you are talking 80% inbounds, 20% touring? For that I would 100% go with a frame binding. It will ski better, be cheaper, be safer, and probably be more durable.


I'm skiing in a K2 Pinnacle 130.

The more I think about it, the more I want to think about frame bindings. I have K2 Kung Fujas w/ Guardians right now. And there's just something I don't like about it. It feels like a big, clunky setup. Doesn't ski great, doesn't tour great. That's why I was looking in a different direction. But you're right, I may just take a second look at everything.

SFBv420.0i ski a durable metal 14 din tech binder in and outta bounds
lighter than kingpins and beast ions or vipecs
based on a time proven design
no gimickey plates or crappy little torax screws holding the heal assembly togather
very few people who tell you you need frame binders, cast systems ,mdf plates or other nonsense
actually ski tech binders in bounds to really know what they're talking about.



Thanks. I guess I've never looked at the minimalist bindings and thought, "those would definitely hold up to a season of skiing". But having a real life review is good to hear.
Sep 21 2016 12:40PM
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cydwhit
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jblaskiI'm skiing in a K2 Pinnacle 130.

The more I think about it, the more I want to think about frame bindings. I have K2 Kung Fujas w/ Guardians right now. And there's just something I don't like about it. It feels like a big, clunky setup. Doesn't ski great, doesn't tour great. That's why I was looking in a different direction. But you're right, I may just take a second look at everything.


Yep, for that boot it just seems like it make a lot of sense, the priority is not on walking uphill with this sort of setup. I hear ya though, I think the Adrenalines have a lower stack height which should feel better. I got used to my Gaurdian's pretty quickly and sometimes wish I still had them.
Sep 21 2016 12:44PM
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cope+
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SFBv420.0i ski a durable metal 14 din tech binder in and outta bounds
lighter than kingpins and beast ions or vipecs
based on a time proven design
no gimickey plates or crappy little torax screws holding the heal assembly togather
very few people who tell you you need frame binders, cast systems ,mdf plates or other nonsense
actually ski tech binders in bounds to really know what they're talking about.


What binder is that?
Sep 21 2016 2:12PM
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cope+
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Nvm found out they are ATK I think
Sep 21 2016 3:23PM
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mtbakerpow
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Dynafit radical FT
Nov 6 2016 10:52AM
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mtbakerpow
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http://www.sierratradingpost.com/dynafit-beast-16-ski-bindings-with-brakes~p~171fc/?filterString=s~dynafit%2F
Nov 6 2016 10:53AM
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mtbakerpow
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mtbakerpowhttp://www.sierratradingpost.com/dynafit-beast-16-ski-bindings-with-brakes~p~171fc/?filterString=s~dynafit%2F


$380 for beast 16 is a good deal
Nov 6 2016 10:53AM
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Hugh_Conway_jr
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I have 3 pairs of ions. they are fantastic. I ski with 4 other guys who also use ions. We haven't had any issues with them (except one heel piece issue that was sorted out with a warranty / recall). Everyone skis pretty aggressively, and they all have good things to say.

Tech bindings have come a long way in the last few years. I think you will do great with either binding.
Nov 15 2016 12:42PM
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