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Wider skis in the park

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There was a thread on this but it didn't really answer my question. Does it really make that much of a difference? Seems like park skies are starting to become a little wider. If a comparison between the surface outsiders and the revision talismans or the moment frankenski, does 10cm really make a difference? I think it really boils down to personal preference. Thoughts
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Sep 10 2016 8:58PM
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Gdog213
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personally i like 90-100mm for park cuz it gives you a little more stability off bigger jumps and i find you can dig into rails better for some reason.
Sep 10 2016 9:13PM
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arnie_grape
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Dekerzdoes 10cm really make a difference?


underfoot? yes big difference.

serious answer: with less underfoot you can set spins on rails with a lot more torque. wider skis might be a little bit harder to scissor with but other than that I haven't noticed much of a difference.

wider skis might make it a little easier to land if you throw a shitty jump trick though. with more underfoot it's easier to find your edge when landing I've found.
Sep 10 2016 9:30PM
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GORILLAWALLACEunderfoot? yes big difference.

serious answer: with less underfoot you can set spins on rails with a lot more torque. wider skis might be a little bit harder to scissor with but other than that I haven't noticed much of a difference.

wider skis might make it a little easier to land if you throw a shitty jump trick though. with more underfoot it's easier to find your edge when landing I've found.


This I've noticed but even still it doesn't take that much extra effort. I feel like I get a bit more stability.
Sep 10 2016 9:42PM
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casey_cope
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Honestly no. You're not gonna feel too much of a difference and it will most likely not affect your skiing. However you'll have way more fun in the powder or just charging around.
Sep 10 2016 11:30PM
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CarsonDaSkier
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I rip around the whole mountain, so i use a 110 mm underfoot. i still can slay rails and do everything else kids on 95mms are doing. its mostly a personal preference though
Sep 12 2016 2:46PM
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Young_patty
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Honestly dude it's all preference, I know guys who ski park with skis that are 83-95 under foot to dudes like me who like to ride 100-105 underfoot in the park. It's just what feels right for you.
Sep 12 2016 3:00PM
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Dddsz
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There was this hardcore dude in the park one day riding like 190cm billy goats. That was impressive for sure.
Sep 12 2016 8:54PM
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leprechaunsissy
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For park I ride 190 cm/115mm Ninthward NGPs. Bought a few pairs years back and find the width and stability are amazing for landings.
Sep 13 2016 2:30AM
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hemlockjibber8
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physically impossible to ski park on wider skis. 122mm under foot and rocker? You're dreaming.
Sep 13 2016 4:35AM
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hemlockjibber8
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physically impossible to ski park on wider skis. 122mm under foot and rocker? You're dreaming.
Sep 13 2016 4:35AM
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270on420out
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I've seen people use 121 underfoot skis in the park. I'll take my Outsiders in the park every once in a while. They're 110 underfoot and they feel completely normal after a few runs.
Sep 13 2016 6:41AM
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fghtoffyrdmns
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hemlockjibber8physically impossible to ski park on wider skis. 122mm under foot and rocker? You're dreaming.


youre smoking crack. say that to my buddy ripping both way 4s and stale 9s on bents.
Sep 13 2016 2:57PM
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HAMNATION
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you can ride park better on pow skis then you can ride pow on park skis
Sep 13 2016 3:15PM
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Balzberg
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fghtoffyrdmnsyoure smoking crack. say that to my buddy ripping both way 4s and stale 9s on bents.


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Sep 13 2016 3:37PM
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SammyDubz
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fghtoffyrdmnsyoure smoking crack. say that to my buddy ripping both way 4s and stale 9s on bents.


dalsberg.


Sep 13 2016 5:23PM
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SammyDubz
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but seriously I ride my outsiders in the park here and there. they give me the power to absolutely slay quad kinks
Sep 13 2016 5:34PM
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GregFlik
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128 underfoot Volkl Chopsticks Rip in the park.

Personal preference is always key since what may work for one person may not work for another. Once you get into the 140 and wider underfoot is where is begins to get a little unrealistic.
Sep 13 2016 9:17PM
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MikeWeinerONE
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GregFlik128 underfoot Volkl Chopsticks Rip in the park.

Personal preference is always key since what may work for one person may not work for another. Once you get into the 140 and wider underfoot is where is begins to get a little unrealistic.


Why would you be riding 140 underfoot period. My "daily driver" and I ski out west is normally the Head Cyclic 115. I don't take then in the park though, maybe a jump or two, but never rails. Wider skis make it super easy to catch your leading edge. At least more so then something like 84 underfoot which is what my park skis are.

Most super wide skis have a lot of rocker. It's super difficult to land big (Breck, Mammoth) jumps with a ton of tail rocker. You can land, but you have to be on point. Any backseat landing and you will wash out. There are tons of skis out there though that are plenty wide, just be more concerned with the stiffness and tail rocker.
Sep 13 2016 9:25PM
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whiteboi
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There was one day a few years ago where I had bent the shit out of my park skis brake and I took my Hellbents out for the afternoon slush in the park. Full rocker and 132mm underfoot made setting an edge extremely hard as you could imagine but on wider rails and tubes I remember surface swaps being super fun. I haven't ridden park on skis that fat since then and would not recommend having a ski that fat as your park driver but I guess it's all personal preference
Sep 14 2016 1:18AM
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clorox
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My 87mm underfoot volkl walls KILL my other park skis (95-105) at jumps and rails. Way less fun though.
Sep 14 2016 9:09AM
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GregFlik
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MikeWeinerONEWhy would you be riding 140 underfoot period. My "daily driver" and I ski out west is normally the Head Cyclic 115. I don't take then in the park though, maybe a jump or two, but never rails. Wider skis make it super easy to catch your leading edge. At least more so then something like 84 underfoot which is what my park skis are.

Most super wide skis have a lot of rocker. It's super difficult to land big (Breck, Mammoth) jumps with a ton of tail rocker. You can land, but you have to be on point. Any backseat landing and you will wash out. There are tons of skis out there though that are plenty wide, just be more concerned with the stiffness and tail rocker.


As I said, Its unrealistic. Some people are into huge skis just for the novelty or some other reason.
Sep 14 2016 11:42AM
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hemlockjibber8
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fghtoffyrdmnsyoure smoking crack. say that to my buddy ripping both way 4s and stale 9s on bents.


No chance. You just can't rip park on Bents. That would be like skiing park with your hands in your pockets. basically impossible.
Sep 14 2016 3:10PM
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HAMNATION
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hemlockjibber8No chance. You just can't rip park on Bents. That would be like skiing park with your hands in your pockets. basically impossible.


I spun a 7 on top of a regular box once on 194 surface new lifes
Sep 14 2016 6:48PM
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J_Christoph
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I've used my 120 Pettitors in the park for two seasons now and I love it. My personal preference is just to always have a wider ski on my feet. Going big off jumps isn't a problem with them, but I do have to agree that landing on point on my Hellbents is a must.
Sep 15 2016 2:32PM
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