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avgvstynovich
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Who got better spots, skiers, snowparks, infrastructure and anything ski- connected ?
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tommyf86
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JibbaTheHuttYou obviously suck dick at skiing if you believe it wasnt built for snowsports. I rode it a fair amount the season just gone and i'll admit features are pretty fucking gnarly but thats the whole nature of it, it is meant to have a rugged aesthetic, otherwise there would be no point in the wooden features, they'd just build a standard park through the trees.


Did you do a season?
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Julius_Steezer
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tommyf86Did you do a season out there?


"Burton the Stash: is a park concept that was personally invented by Jake Burton and the snowboard legend Craig Kelly."

It may well have been modified for bikes but the stash is a snowboard concept, regardless of whether you did a season or not
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JibbaTheHutt
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tommyf86Did you do a season out there?


yep, like i said if you go for it the stash can be the way funner than any of the other parks in the PDS
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1KSheehan
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philipcwhy don't you ask all the european pros that come to US for the winter?


You could ask the same to the US Pros. Why do they come to europe for the winter.
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JibbaTheHutt
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1KSheehanYou could ask the same to the US Pros. Why do they come to europe for the winter.


this, 4 of the 5 freeride world tour stops are held in Europe.
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californiagrown
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JibbaTheHuttthis, 4 of the 5 freeride world tour stops are held in Europe.


That has 100% to do with logistics surrounding a competition. Europe has easy access to huge, gnarly faces making it conducive to viewing, TV, and getting people to the venue.
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Headless-G
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Well I'm French and it's true that in Europe Mountains are really serious if you're not carefull while skiing you can end up on a 60 feet cliff, in Europe its more of a Big Mountain ridding zone, if you're going into the woods trying to find some pillows end other, you can still search. I've never been skiing to America but when I'm watching all those edit (Sammy C, Sean Pettit, TH etc...) MAN it looks like there's so much Backcountry Stuff to do ! To conclude I'll say that its not the same type of Skiing In America than Europe, America looks so fucking FUN, Europe looks more "extrem".
About parks, only a few resort in Europe have some really dope one, compare to America where all the parks are looking cool.
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minihef
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californiagrownThat has 100% to do with logistics surrounding a competition. Europe has easy access to huge, gnarly faces making it conducive to viewing, TV, and getting people to the venue.


And related to this is the fact that ski culture is just much bigger in Europe. More people want to watch things like this and so the crowds and interest European venues bring sustain the tour financially.
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philipc
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1KSheehanYou could ask the same to the US Pros. Why do they come to europe for the winter.


For comps. No one does a season in europe.
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minihef
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philipcFor comps. No one does a season in europe.


This is kind of missing the point. Most top level pros tend to just travel a lot rather than just doing seasons in one place. They follow comps, and snow and conditions and film shoots. That means that sometimes they are in Europe, sometimes in NA, sometimes in Japan, sometimes somewhere else.
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minihef
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philipcFor comps. No one does a season in europe.


This is kind of missing the point. Most top level pros tend to just travel a lot rather than just doing seasons in one place. They follow comps, and snow and conditions and film shoots. That means that sometimes they are in Europe, sometimes in NA, sometimes in Japan, sometimes somewhere else.
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minihef
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philipcFor comps. No one does a season in europe.


This is kind of missing the point. Most top level pros tend to just travel a lot rather than just doing seasons in one place. They follow comps, and snow and conditions and film shoots. That means that sometimes they are in Europe, sometimes in NA, sometimes in Japan, sometimes somewhere else.
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1KSheehan
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tommyf86Europe park scene sucks.

You cant label that to the whole of Europe: Laax, Van Penken, Hoff, Sas-fee, Andorra...etc
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Holte
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ozzywrongSmoke crack much??
Europe shits on America.. Hard.. So many more sick resorts in Europe .. The only ski area in North America that's on a Euro level is Whister., all the rest or the resorts are Tinto


Whistler is the sickest mountain in North America? I mean, it's big, but Jackson... Squaw... Revelstoke... Snowbird... hell I'd put Big Sky before Whistler.
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SFBv420.0
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ozzywrongSmoke crack much??
Europe shits on America.. Hard.. So many more sick resorts in Europe .. The only ski area in North America that's on a Euro level is Whister., all the rest or the resorts are Tinto


goes to sickest resort in north america


https://www.newschoolers.com/photos/view/174517/Picnic-tables



skis on picnic tables
i'd reccomend AK
but real mountains with real cliffs and real skiing isn't really your thing
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willysworld
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SFBv420.0goes to sickest resort in north america


https://www.newschoolers.com/photos/view/174517/Picnic-tables



skis on picnic tables
i'd reccomend AK
but real mountains with real cliffs and real skiing isn't really your thing

Have you actually looked at most of my photos ?? 90% are big mountain photos lol
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SFBv420.0
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i'm not real good at math but less than 50%
doesn't ever equal 90
but
#skankyratchethoesmatter
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dbchili
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HolteWhistler is the sickest mountain in North America? I mean, it's big, but Jackson... Squaw... Revelstoke... Snowbird... hell I'd put Big Sky before Whistler.


Sorry man but European park scene is garbage compared to that in North America. Even laax, which is widely regarded as the best park in Europe, was a sore disappointment for me, and I'm from the east coast. Then when you compare to the NA west coast, it's not even in the same stratosphere. Europe has a lot of work to do if they ever want to run a real park game.
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Jibberino
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dbchiliSorry man but European park scene is garbage compared to that in North America. Even laax, which is widely regarded as the best park in Europe, was a sore disappointment for me, and I'm from the east coast. Then when you compare to the NA west coast, it's not even in the same stratosphere. Europe has a lot of work to do if they ever want to run a real park game.



Where else have you been than Laax? What dissappointed you about Laax?
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Jibberino
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dbchiliSorry man but European park scene is garbage compared to that in North America. Even laax, which is widely regarded as the best park in Europe, was a sore disappointment for me, and I'm from the east coast. Then when you compare to the NA west coast, it's not even in the same stratosphere. Europe has a lot of work to do if they ever want to run a real park game.



Where else have you been than Laax? What dissappointed you about Laax?
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Jibberino
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dbchiliSorry man but European park scene is garbage compared to that in North America. Even laax, which is widely regarded as the best park in Europe, was a sore disappointment for me, and I'm from the east coast. Then when you compare to the NA west coast, it's not even in the same stratosphere. Europe has a lot of work to do if they ever want to run a real park game.



Where else have you been than Laax? What dissappointed you about Laax?
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Jibberino
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dbchiliSorry man but European park scene is garbage compared to that in North America. Even laax, which is widely regarded as the best park in Europe, was a sore disappointment for me, and I'm from the east coast. Then when you compare to the NA west coast, it's not even in the same stratosphere. Europe has a lot of work to do if they ever want to run a real park game.



Where else have you been than Laax? What dissappointed you about Laax?
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dbchili
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JibberinoWhere else have you been than Laax? What dissappointed you about Laax?


i've ridden most of the the major parks in CH and austria, and some in france

Both and size of the features and the quality seemed to be lacking in most european parks to be honest. For rails they rarely if ever have pro level rail features, even laax's "big" rail line had some 6 foot down boxes in it, and i was easily able to clean every one of the rails, and my park skills are rough at best. They would build maybe 1 or 2 with the large jumps when comps were on, but that's it. Granted their large jump line looked great (again i suck, i didn't ride it), but the mediums had flat landings, poor takeoffs, and had a grand total of 2 rails in the same park (at the peak of the season, i went other times too and there were none). For the "best" park in europe, i'd expect even the smallest jumps to be poppy, have proper landings, and not stress your knees on every impact, and have a solid choice between jumps and rails in every park.

When i compare that riding mammoth, whister, or even my home resort of mslm in ontario, it was a weak effort at best. When you pull up those features from mammoth you see in every edit, they're huge. The parks in north american mega resorts flow with the ability to skip from jumps to rails and back, every jump feels properly built for your skill level.

Don't get me wrong there were euro parks that i had fun riding, but those are things above from the NA resorts are things the euro resorts just aren't doing right now.
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