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Drugs, LSD, Pscilcybin; A Conversation with Timothy Leary

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qazwsxedc34
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Timothy Leary sitting beside Al Ron Hubbard the founder of Scientology and other key figures of the MK-Ultra program, including Sidney Gotlieb. Gotlieb was responsible for coordinating MK-Ultra. He was also directly involved in the murder of Frank Olson. Isn't it interesting how Leary uses the phrase "Our undercover agents", in regards to the LSD scene in Los Angeles. We all need to recognize, understand, and accept the fact that the group of men in this video are the men responsible for the entire hippie / LSD movement of the 60's. Who ever thought the real "LSD Guru" was actually some fat, smelly old fart in a fake police uniform. Disappointing to say the very least.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/834275/A-Conversation-on-LSD---Timothy-Leary

The Hippy movement was okay though, I gueeeeess
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Aug 5 2016 2:27PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Skip to 34:00mins if you're interested in this stuff, if not spit anything ya got
Aug 5 2016 2:28PM
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Chubz.
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ive done lsd once, it was fun. Would recommend to a friend. 8/10
Aug 5 2016 2:37PM
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.SHAGGY.
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i only do coke or weed
Aug 5 2016 10:04PM
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Rparr
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there is almost no real lsd out there anymore, you are likely buying analogues
Aug 5 2016 10:18PM
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Negromancer
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Rparrthere is almost no real lsd out there anymore, you are likely buying analogues


Buy off the Darknet, always get proper LSD and while you're at buy some MDMA.
LSD + MDMA best combo ever. Awesome visuals from LSD and loads of euphoria from the MDMA.
Aug 6 2016 12:02AM
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DrZoidberg
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fuckmekevinWe all need to recognize, understand, and accept the fact that the group of men in this video are the men responsible for the entire hippie / LSD movement of the 60's.


I'd have to give that honor to Albert Hofmann and Sandoz rather than these hippies. Must have been an interesting time to be alive, when synthesizing all this crap was funded by big pharma and legal.
Aug 7 2016 10:15PM
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littleman34
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ive never tried LSD because: that most illegally obtained acid is fake, expensive, and hard to find. I have tried pscilcybin mushrooms thought which are similar. any psychedelic trips are defiantly a fun and eye opening experience.
Aug 9 2016 3:28PM
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oldworld_newlife
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lsd is the devil
Aug 18 2016 1:13PM
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oldworld_newlife
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5gs psylocibin is the best way to trip, anything below that is just ego padding and itll just build narcissism, especially lsd. i figured this all out the hard way too so take my word for it. these drugs are nothing to fuck with if you dont know what youre REALLY doing, or trying to do to yourself.
Aug 18 2016 1:15PM
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270on420out
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Never really liked weed and I've never done any hallucinogenics, but I'd want to try at least once just so I can say I've done it. I have no desire to try LSD or Shrooms. I want to go straight to DMT.
Aug 19 2016 12:34AM
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oldworld_newlife
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THEDIRTYBUBBLENever really liked weed and I've never done any hallucinogenics, but I'd want to try at least once just so I can say I've done it. I have no desire to try LSD or Shrooms. I want to go straight to DMT.


if you want what DMT can give you, in a more managable package, 5g of shrooms gives you that. DMT is super extrememe and you wouldnt be able to make sense of it without a lot of research or proper experience beforehand
Aug 19 2016 2:33PM
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notspoicey
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LSD is fun if you're happy about your current situation and trip with your very best friends
Aug 19 2016 6:14PM
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270on420out
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SteezySmith57if you want what DMT can give you, in a more managable package, 5g of shrooms gives you that. DMT is super extrememe and you wouldnt be able to make sense of it without a lot of research or proper experience beforehand


Nah I'd really rather just go to deem. From the research I've done it just sounds better to me.
Aug 19 2016 9:06PM
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Rparr
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THEDIRTYBUBBLENah I'd really rather just go to deem. From the research I've done it just sounds better to me.


deem is good shit, it ripped me out of my fucking skull
Aug 19 2016 10:46PM
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Bonzalo
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Just got back from a party with a low dose of shroms, was kinda cool.
Currently quitting weed for some time, been smoking for way too long and the secondary effects of being a daily smoker have been getting to my me lately. i'm going to start smoking once every 2 weeks or so, I`m getting tired of being high all the time.
Aug 20 2016 4:45AM
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IKEA
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THEDIRTYBUBBLENever really liked weed and I've never done any hallucinogenics, but I'd want to try at least once just so I can say I've done it. I have no desire to try LSD or Shrooms. I want to go straight to DMT.


For real tho, to start with dmt is very fucking stupid.. Of course u will survive, but it will not be as enjoyable. Hallucinogenics can be compared to skiing, it is pretty stupid to go and attempt to ride double diamonds the first time ever skiing. Go and find some shrooms cuz you will enjoy it and test your mind. If you can't handle shrooms there is little chance that youll handle dmt. There is almost nothing but earlier experiences with other drugs that can prepare you for your soul to be ripped out of your body. It is easy to read about it and think that youre prepared but that is just ignorance. Eat some shrooms, buy some acid from darknet (which is increadible good imo) and test yourself before entering the realm of dmt.
Aug 20 2016 12:41PM
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oldworld_newlife
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IKEAFor real tho, to start with dmt is very fucking stupid.. Of course u will survive, but it will not be as enjoyable. Hallucinogenics can be compared to skiing, it is pretty stupid to go and attempt to ride double diamonds the first time ever skiing. Go and find some shrooms cuz you will enjoy it and test your mind. If you can't handle shrooms there is little chance that youll handle dmt. There is almost nothing but earlier experiences with other drugs that can prepare you for your soul to be ripped out of your body. It is easy to read about it and think that youre prepared but that is just ignorance. Eat some shrooms, buy some acid from darknet (which is increadible good imo) and test yourself before entering the realm of dmt.


id say just try shrooms. at 5g it starts to act like oral dmt. trust me. id say theres no need for acid either too. that shit will fuck you up in the long term. but yeah, definitely don't START with dmt. totally with you on that. bad idea. shrooms and weed are the perfect combo, all natural, and comes with benefits if you do it right
Aug 21 2016 11:37AM
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Park.
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Will watch video when i get the chance but this thread is giving some uninformed statements about some of these drugs ( although most stuff has been pretty accurate).

Just wanna say that while ive never done dmt, I am with other people highly suggesting lower level psychedelics first. Your mental preparedness is insanely important to enjoying the experience. Ive had personal experiences being deeply disturbed because i was simply unprepared for what i was getting into and it wasnt my first trip. Your mind can be a scary place when you see things clearly...
Aug 21 2016 6:36PM
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DayMan
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SteezySmith57id say theres no need for acid either too. that shit will fuck you up in the long term.


While it's definitely not something you should do a lot, LSD hasn't been proven to have any negative long term effects. I've had some really good experiences with it and I'd recommend it to anyone to try at least once.
Aug 21 2016 6:44PM
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oldworld_newlife
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DayManWhile it's definitely not something you should do a lot, LSD hasn't been proven to have any negative long term effects. I've had some really good experiences with it and I'd recommend it to anyone to try at least once.


the negative effects come through bad decisions
Aug 21 2016 9:32PM
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DayMan
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SteezySmith57the negative effects come through bad decisions


I guess.. But I really don't think the 5g's of shrooms that you recommended in a post earlier are going to lead to great decision making either.
Aug 22 2016 11:16AM
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oldworld_newlife
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DayManI guess.. But I really don't think the 5g's of shrooms that you recommended in a post earlier are going to lead to great decision making either.


you dont know what it is though, its alot different than L. it depends on the person to make the correct decisions, but the 5g experience can and will put a human in touch with the one true god, if done correctly. once that happens, well, you might just think about your decisions a little more. all it is is a way to unlock the secrets of your past in your head and take your life back.
Aug 22 2016 12:37PM
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oldworld_newlife
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SteezySmith57you dont know what it is though, its alot different than L. it depends on the person to make the correct decisions, but the 5g experience can and will put a human in touch with the one true god, if done correctly. once that happens, well, you might just think about your decisions a little more. all it is is a way to unlock the secrets of your past in your head and take your life back.


basically what im saying is, L and 5g both give you ego death, but on L people usually dont know whats happening.. so the ego just grows bigger in the end. on shrooms though, like i said, its different. you know whats happening once you see it, and shrooms wont spare any details like L will. shrooms are like one of natures truth serums.
Aug 22 2016 12:41PM
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IKEA
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SteezySmith57basically what im saying is, L and 5g both give you ego death, but on L people usually dont know whats happening.. so the ego just grows bigger in the end. on shrooms though, like i said, its different. you know whats happening once you see it, and shrooms wont spare any details like L will. shrooms are like one of natures truth serums.


When I take a dose of shrooms like 5g cubensis I have no clue whats going on. While on acid I know what is happening (most of the time) but I have far less control and realism on shrooms. But psycadelics are known for being subjective and ones experience cannot be the same as anothers. I dont know why everyone is trying to kill the ego.. Ego is important hence it is more important to understand the ego. To understand it almost all psycadelics can be helpful. IMO shrooms are more fun, but acid can be just as helpful. However, dmt is just crazy fun and insane.
Aug 22 2016 3:57PM
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littleman34
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Who here has bought any drug off the darknet?? I've been on Silk Road just to browse, I'd be to sketched out to ingest anything from there.
Aug 22 2016 9:57PM
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oldworld_newlife
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IKEAWhen I take a dose of shrooms like 5g cubensis I have no clue whats going on. While on acid I know what is happening (most of the time) but I have far less control and realism on shrooms. But psycadelics are known for being subjective and ones experience cannot be the same as anothers. I dont know why everyone is trying to kill the ego.. Ego is important hence it is more important to understand the ego. To understand it almost all psycadelics can be helpful. IMO shrooms are more fun, but acid can be just as helpful. However, dmt is just crazy fun and insane.


true, i guess i should add if youre doing things like meditation and research into things like history, world religion, consciousness, and other things, you can find alot out real fast with the 5g trip, but like terrence mckenna said, it really doesnt start til 5g or more. and the right set/setting. not a party and "oh fuck it i just wanna have fun" mindset. somewhere calm and quiet is important.
Aug 23 2016 12:42AM
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spliff.Life
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HarambeBuy off the Darknet, always get proper LSD and while you're at buy some MDMA.
LSD + MDMA best combo ever. Awesome visuals from LSD and loads of euphoria from the MDMA.


Roflolmfao
Aug 23 2016 12:51AM
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yungcigsmoker
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I've done both shrooms and LSD and I can confidently say that LSD fucking sucks. At least for me. Always have a bad trip, and I can feel it, for lack of a better word, radiating in my head for weeks afterward. I probably just got bunk shit but I hate LSD.


Shrooms on the other hand...
Aug 23 2016 10:32PM
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