Marker duke vs. Marker Tour F12? Other suggestions?

I have dukes. I have toured about 20 times in the last two years on them. They are pretty heavy but touring is smooth and the skiing is great.

It comes down to what you will realistically do.
If you will tour a couple times a season the time and you are a light weight skier who does not require a 12 din binding to ski, the extra weight may seem unnecessary.
However if you are a skier who needs the extra din in your binding cause you need dins at 14 due to cause you need it cause you like to do 30ft mandatory cliff drops go for the dukes.

I rocked the 2015-16 F12 and it took care of all my needs ( 10-15ft drop ) department this past season.
I'm not a epic skier but I aint no slouch.
I feel the F12 is a good, solid resort/AT binding for the occasional tour.

if you plan on touring multiple times a month you should consider a tech binging set up. They are the best in that aspect.

hope this helps.

my experience with randonee bindings differs a bit from 50 cal, but that's ok :)

First thing to consider is your height and weight and bsl. If you're a lightweight skier and arent hard on things, the f12s may be worth your money. If you're bigger and ski more aggressive and like to get sendy in and out of bounds, and hit decent cliffs/jumps, duke all the way.

Get dukes if- you will be spending more time riding them hard inside the resort, along with the occasional Tour. The extra beef is well worth it.

Get f12s for you're a smaller less aggressive rider, or will have them on a dedicated touring ski, and won't be getting to sendy inbounds, or much while touring.

Or, if you're having trouble and are right inbetween the two bindings. Barons or guardians could also be a great option.

My brother in-law is telling me that trying to tour up hill in alpine boots just plain sucks. Says it sucks to the point that the pain it causes negates any advantage the binding might have on the downhill. Anyone else have this experience? I kinda want to buy some frame bindings because it seems way more cost effective but based on his feedback I'm thinking maybe I should save up for dynafits or just keep on boot packing.

OregonDeadMy brother in-law is telling me that trying to tour up hill in alpine boots just plain sucks. Says it sucks to the point that the pain it causes negates any advantage the binding might have on the downhill. Anyone else have this experience? I kinda want to buy some frame bindings because it seems way more cost effective but based on his feedback I'm thinking maybe I should save up for dynafits or just keep on boot packing.

If you're touring OFTEN wth randonee bindings, yes it gets sucky and very cumbersome. But if you're doing a couple mid range tours a month or so and skiing mostly alpine, that's where they shine, despite some of the disadvantages of weight and bulk.

shin-bangIf you're touring OFTEN wth randonee bindings, yes it gets sucky and very cumbersome. But if you're doing a couple mid range tours a month or so and skiing mostly alpine, that's where they shine, despite some of the disadvantages of weight and bulk.

He is from CO where approaches are longer and he also does longer trips like in the Alps. But most people I know with Dynafits don't want to switch back to anything else. If I set up a touring rig I will probably just use it for 1/2 day trips most of which will start at the top of a chairlift. I boot to most of the places I want to go when the snow is firm but it'd be nice to have the same access when there is soft snow. IDK first world problems I guess.

OregonDeadHe is from CO where approaches are longer and he also does longer trips like in the Alps. But most people I know with Dynafits don't want to switch back to anything else. If I set up a touring rig I will probably just use it for 1/2 day trips most of which will start at the top of a chairlift. I boot to most of the places I want to go when the snow is firm but it'd be nice to have the same access when there is soft snow. IDK first world problems I guess.

I was in your same shoes man. I used my touring setup a bit, but not as much as I had intended, also didn't have a big enough group to go with, so I sold it. However it worked great for what I used it for. Sounds to me like a randonee binding would be good for you, but will you have friends going with you that have taking avy courses and know what they're doing?

shin-bangI was in your same shoes man. I used my touring setup a bit, but not as much as I had intended, also didn't have a big enough group to go with, so I sold it. However it worked great for what I used it for. Sounds to me like a randonee binding would be good for you, but will you have friends going with you that have taking avy courses and know what they're doing?

Friends going with me? ha ha no. My friends are lame. My wife knows what's up but it doesn't sound like she is interested in AT gear. She has a nice pack etc but usually she just wants to hike carrying her skis in her hand even if we are hiking for a couple of hours.
I will probably just stick to terrain that I feel comfortable in by myself. When the snow is firm I feel like I hike almost as fast as some people out skining but post-holeing is slow and sucks.

I ordered some Marker Tours earlier today. Against the advice of my brother in law but it seemed like a deal compared to buying new boots and a dynafiddle.

when pondering the same question, i ended up getting the tyrolia adrenalins and was very happy with my decision