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CB4TSB
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This is a direct quote from EHeath

"A rodeo 5 is a flip and 180 degree spin, it's not called a rodeo 180, it's called a rodeo 540 because the flip is 360 degrees of rotation + 180 spin"

Would you define that as a Rodeo 540
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Swandog7
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Rodeos aren't technically inverted flips, but on a weird axis that's inbetween a flip and a spin. He's basically right though, the "flip" is counts as a 360
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eheath
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Swandog7Rodeos aren't technically inverted flips, but on a weird axis that's inbetween a flip and a spin. He's basically right though, the "flip" is counts as a 360


Whoever voted no in the poll please explain what you think a rodeo is, I'd love a good laugh.
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fries
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eheathWhoever voted no in the poll please explain what you think a rodeo is, I'd love a good laugh.


You're not wrong, but it's not that "the flip counts as a 360".
I mean, if that's how you understand it, then I guess that works, but you literally just look at the skiers head and can see it rotate 540 degrees.

You can't just throw a backie and add a 180 right before you land and call it a rodeo 540.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/830229/Rodeo-5-on-skis
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gravel
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A rodeo is halfway between a flatspin and a misty. Not really a backwards rotation because most people set them by setting forwards off the lip. Cork is backwards.

An underflip is a flippier cork 5.
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DASZ.mp4
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eheathWhoever voted no in the poll please explain what you think a rodeo is, I'd love a good laugh.


A rodeo is the name for a certain type of off-axis backwards rotation.

You limit creativity so much by saying a rodeo 5 is a flip +180. Rather a rodeo 5 is a 540 rotation set on a rodeo axis. So a rod 5 could look a lot of different ways than just flip + 180.

For example, you could hold the rodeo rotation longer so you're off axis until right before you land. That couldn't be broken down more than rod 5.

Or you could do a rod 5 kinda like harlauts attempt at a flat 1 in xgames where you are off axis only for the first 1 off the rotation and quickly throw a 3 while pretty much on axis. You could break that down to be rodeo 180+360.

Or maybe in a few years someone will throw something really crazy like a rod 5 where they don't go off axis until after 180. They would hold off the rod rotation and make it look like they are doing an upright spin and then all of a sudden throw a rodeo rotation out of nowhere(hard to explain hopefully you guys understand). You would break that down as a 180+ rodeo 3.

Rodeo 5 does not just mean throw backwards flip then rotate another 1. It's a 540 degree rotation thrown at least partially on the rodeo axis. Just how you can rod 9 by rod 3+540 or hold the rotation out and be off axis longer and do a rod 7+180.

Either way a rodeo _ is not just a rodeo 3 + (n) number of rotations. Saying rodeo, misty, flat, bio, cork, underflip, etc. just describes the axis that the trick is thrown on. You can spin as much as you want before spinning on that axis, as much as you want while you're inverted on that axis, and as much as you want once you're off the axis and upright again.

This is why many ppl believe in flat 1s. Because you are on the flatspin inverted axis and you only spin 180 degrees.
9 years ago
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tateum_cava
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so i guess cork 720 is fake by this logic. just a backflip 360?
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PeteMahn
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TateumCso i guess cork 720 is fake by this logic. just a backflip 360?


You're an idot then haha. You never flip when you do a cork so no. You should never be inverted at any point during a cork. That's the difference between Cork and D-Spin bud.
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_____alfredo____
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i'll take eheath's definition of a rodeo seriously when he lands one
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eheath
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darticus_primei'll take eheath's definition of a rodeo seriously when he lands one


I did my first rodeo when you were in diapers
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_____alfredo____
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eheathI did my first rodeo when you were in diapers


ya rite
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SSteezle
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eheathI did my first rodeo when you were in diapers


i've been told you still wear diapers, is this true?
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Swandog7
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eheathI did my first rodeo when you were in diapers


I'm sure you could do another one for us, unless, you forgot the rotation or something
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Johngreenacre
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the counting system is what he is talking about in this post. and he is write in what he is saying in that regard. I'm tired of stupid gymnasts calling my cork 7s back fulls or a cork 360.

Rodeos 5s are also not backflips with 180s though. they are flatspins (generally less flippy) that continue naturally to switch instead of forwards (360).
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BianKarrett
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eheathWhoever voted no in the poll please explain what you think a rodeo is, I'd love a good laugh.


Heath bar, please show me a video of you doing a rodeo five. Obviously you have never done a rodeo. Anyone who has even attempted a rodeo can feel that it is not a flip, but instead an inverted spin. Laugh at me while i laugh at you. watching a video of a rodeo is very different than actually doing one.
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Holte
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Is "make eheath do a rodeo" going to be a yearly thing? It was like last season that he did one after Ware's contest. I mean, I fully support the idea.
9 years ago
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SofaKingSick
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a lot of you are missing the point

what OP is not understanding is that eheath's quote was concerning itself with the trick naming system (not the specifics of the definition of rodeo). when you don't understand it, it makes it even harder to understand the naming system when you get to dubs and weird new tricks, and that's why it got brought up in the comments about dean's weird dub 9

his point about "rodeo 5 = 360 (flip) + 180 (spin)" is about the adding up of rotations and our naming system

the same people who don't understand this are the same people who don't understand why a misty 7 is a flip plus a 360, and looks really similar to a bio 7...because they are simply different kinds of 7

the example i use to try to explain this to people is this: take your phone and throw it up in the air so that it does a backflip and a 360 at the same time. now, set them less and less flippy until your phone is just doing a straight 7. this should illustrate why a misty 7 is just a type of 7, a rodeo 5 is just a type of 5, etc
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Rennis_Deynolds
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eheathWhoever voted no in the poll please explain what you think a rodeo is, I'd love a good laugh.


in all seriousness i am genuinely curious if you have ever landed a rodeo
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danbrown
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BianKarrettHeath bar, please show me a video of you doing a rodeo five. Obviously you have never done a rodeo. Anyone who has even attempted a rodeo can feel that it is not a flip, but instead an inverted spin. Laugh at me while i laugh at you. watching a video of a rodeo is very different than actually doing one.



23 seconds. swallow them words n dont you spit boy

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eheath
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Dennis_Reynoldsin all seriousness i am genuinely curious if you have ever landed a rodeo


I did my first rodeo when I was 15, 12 years ago. I haven't done one (successfully) since I was probably 18.
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Rennis_Deynolds
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TateumCso i guess cork 720 is fake by this logic. just a backflip 360?


I've been living a lie
9 years ago
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bait
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Despite being gay, aerials has a way better system for naming tricks.
9 years ago
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eheath
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I have a feeling you're referring to the attempt I made two years ago, when I was 25. If you read my post, i did my first rodeo when I was 15. Ski tricks haven't really been my forte since I was younger, oh well.
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SofaKingSick
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TateumCso i guess cork 720 is fake by this logic. just a backflip 360?


uhh, well, yeah, a cork 7 is almost identical to a backie + 360, just laid to the side/not as inverted. this is the point a lot of you are missing. theyre both 7s and our naming system recognizes that

honestly i had no idea this confused so many people on here. if you can't understand why a rodeo 5 is called a rodeo 5 or why a misty 7 is a flip + a 360 i really don't know how to dumb it down another shade
9 years ago
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HaydenWrong
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This thread will make my day go by faster
9 years ago
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zakattack66
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eheathWhoever voted no in the poll please explain what you think a rodeo is, I'd love a good laugh.


How would you know? It's not like like you can or ever will do one.
9 years ago
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MikeWeinerONE
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This thread should be over. EHeath explained perfectly how tricks are labeled. I open it for the humor as to everyone being a specialist when he's been around forever, knows skiing like his hand, and is correct in everything he's posted /thread
9 years ago
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HaydenWrong
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Titsandwich11a lot of you are missing the point

what OP is not understanding is that eheath's quote was concerning itself with the trick naming system (not the specifics of the definition of rodeo). when you don't understand it, it makes it even harder to understand the naming system when you get to dubs and weird new tricks, and that's why it got brought up in the comments about dean's weird dub 9

his point about "rodeo 5 = 360 (flip) + 180 (spin)" is about the adding up of rotations and our naming system

the same people who don't understand this are the same people who don't understand why a misty 7 is a flip plus a 360, and looks really similar to a bio 7...because they are simply different kinds of 7

the example i use to try to explain this to people is this: take your phone and throw it up in the air so that it does a backflip and a 360 at the same time. now, set them less and less flippy until your phone is just doing a straight 7. this should illustrate why a misty 7 is just a type of 7, a rodeo 5 is just a type of 5, etc


agreed thread is over now
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