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Someone please explain why it's illegal to dance in America?

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Lé.Skiing
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I'm just wondering why? I see all kinds of crazy police state videos pop up in my news feed on FB all the time, but this one I'm about to show you takes the cake in nonsense arrests.





This is the gem I just saw today...


https://www.facebook.com/policethepoliceACP/videos/1368403253176667/?pnref=story

















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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/786002/I-Thought-This-Was-America



Maybe I'm missing something?



(I know it says "park police" and I'm going to assume that's basically like a rent a cop.)
May 25 2016 2:05PM
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eheath
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I'm not entirely sure what is happening in that video, but it makes me want to jump off the nearest roof.
May 25 2016 2:14PM
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Grishnackh
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I don't know, man. I've never seen a rent a cop do restrain someone like that.
May 25 2016 2:14PM
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NewEscuelers
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eheathI'm not entirely sure what is happening in that video, but it makes me want to jump off the nearest roof.


As long as you afterbang
May 25 2016 2:18PM
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dkirse
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This is ridiculous and so embarrassing for America
May 25 2016 2:21PM
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NewEscuelers
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At least if these people go to trial they'll get a fair one (they probably won't even go to trial)

In other countries people get their heads chopped off for looking at someone the wrong way.
May 25 2016 2:24PM
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Mingg
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Since when is it illegal to dance in America? I thought that law only applied to Footloose?
May 25 2016 2:39PM
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.Hugo.
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We can dance we we want to
May 25 2016 2:43PM
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theBearJew
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Isnt this video from 2011? And the rent-a-cop said if you demonstrate by dancing you will be removed. So whats the problem? You can dance if you want to, just not at a memorial where its supposed to be a tranquil and reflective environment.

Id be slightly annoyed if a group of idiots were dancing inside the memorial. Just dance outside of it.
May 25 2016 3:01PM
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GayWolf420
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Rules are fine and I totally get that it is within the rent-a-cops authority to tell you to beat it and leave the property but do those wannabe cops really have to manhandle/bodyslam people for shit like this? thats the problem I have, not the rentacop kicking them out. The way that any authority figures in the U.S. exert power is just fucking embarrassing and seems childish, honestly.
May 25 2016 3:41PM
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skier_boy26
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Hmmmm this is old, plus the guy was a jerk.

If you think it's truly bad, you can dance pretty much wherever the hell you want (unless you're socially inept and you would rather stand around on your phone and not be "embarrassed").

You want truly bad (especially in regards to dancing), look to Iran. Great people, shitty, shitty government.
May 25 2016 3:55PM
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californiagrown
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DeebieSkeebiesRules are fine and I totally get that it is within the rent-a-cops authority to tell you to beat it and leave the property but do those wannabe cops really have to manhandle/bodyslam people for shit like this? thats the problem I have, not the rentacop kicking them out. The way that any authority figures in the U.S. exert power is just fucking embarrassing and seems childish, honestly.


If you get told to leave and don't, they should physically escort you put. If you physically resist the escort, you will be beaten into submission.

I don't see the issue. Maybe cause I'm not an egotistical moron with a millenials voctimhood complex, but I've never been handled too roughly by security... and I've had my fair share of run ins.
May 25 2016 4:06PM
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Lé.Skiing
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theBearJewIsnt this video from 2011? And the rent-a-cop said if you demonstrate by dancing you will be removed. So whats the problem? You can dance if you want to, just not at a memorial where its supposed to be a tranquil and reflective environment.

Id be slightly annoyed if a group of idiots were dancing inside the memorial. Just dance outside of it.


I just found when it was, and the article about it... I guess it kinda makes sense, but at the same time, I'm pretty sure that Thomas Jefferson would be disappointed that people were arrested at his memorial because they were dancing.

Link to article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/30/jefferson-memorial-dancing-arrests_n_868719.html





Looks like it was a silent flash mob. I get why they were arrested, but still, kinda seems a little over the top imo.
May 25 2016 4:18PM
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theBearJew
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Lé.SkiingI just found when it was, and the article about it... I guess it kinda makes sense, but at the same time, I'm pretty sure that Thomas Jefferson would be disappointed that people were arrested at his memorial because they were dancing.

Link to article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/30/jefferson-memorial-dancing-arrests_n_868719.html





Looks like it was a silent flash mob. I get why they were arrested, but still, kinda seems a little over the top imo.



I do agree its a bit much to use that much force, but if you're going to be a dick and not leave when asked and warned, maybe you should get slammed. To me, more people would rather have a calm and tranquil experience at a memorial rather than seeing random people sliently dancing around.

If you go into a situation trying to entice a reaction, dont be shocked when you get one.
May 25 2016 4:33PM
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270on420out
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That was seriously their way of protesting? And they got arrested for it? Good. I'd arrest them to for protesting in such a stupid fucking manner. C'mon America. Learn to protest the right way. If you dont have the balls to throw a molotov cocktail at Capitol Hill, then you the issue at hand doesn't affect you enough to care.
May 25 2016 4:39PM
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.ZT.
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theBearJewI do agree its a bit much to use that much force, but if you're going to be a dick and not leave when asked and warned, maybe you should get slammed. To me, more people would rather have a calm and tranquil experience at a memorial rather than seeing random people sliently dancing around.

If you go into a situation trying to entice a reaction, dont be shocked when you get one.


What about forcefully removing people, handcuffing people, body slamming people, etc. for dancing is calm, tranquil or respectful to people visiting the memorial, or the memorial itself? It wasn't clear to me that they were trying to provoke a reaction, but even if they were, police should NOT escalate a situation like that and make it worse as they too often do. It seems like cop apologists will go to any extent to suck up.
May 25 2016 5:23PM
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theBearJew
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.ZT.What about forcefully removing people, handcuffing people, body slamming people, etc. for dancing is calm, tranquil or respectful to people visiting the memorial, or the memorial itself? It wasn't clear to me that they were trying to provoke a reaction, but even if they were, police should NOT escalate a situation like that and make it worse as they too often do. It seems like cop apologists will go to any extent to suck up.


So they were there to oppose a court decision that said dancing was not allowed in the memorial. The people that showed up were there to have a demonstration, not to visit the memorial for the sake of enjoying the memorial. I am by no means a cop apologist, there are plenty of instances where they use excessive force and take unnecessary action, but if a cop is asking you to leave and warns you that you will be arrested, then tries to arrest you and you resist, you get slammed.



P.S. This is a very stupid argument to be having.
May 25 2016 6:40PM
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.ZT.
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theBearJewSo they were there to oppose a court decision that said dancing was not allowed in the memorial. The people that showed up were there to have a demonstration, not to visit the memorial for the sake of enjoying the memorial. I am by no means a cop apologist, there are plenty of instances where they use excessive force and take unnecessary action, but if a cop is asking you to leave and warns you that you will be arrested, then tries to arrest you and you resist, you get slammed.



P.S. This is a very stupid argument to be having.


Yeah fair enough, I read the article linked above, and it explains in broader context that this was a demonstration. My bad for assuming otherwise. I didn't see the police give warning, or say anything about arrests for some of the people in the video, but I see your point. I agree that this is kind of pointless to discuss, but oh well. Sorry for calling you a cop apologist, there are so many I see all the time that go unchallenged, so I felt the need to step in.
May 25 2016 7:21PM
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californiagrown
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.ZT.Yeah fair enough, I read the article linked above, and it explains in broader context that this was a demonstration. My bad for assuming otherwise. I didn't see the police give warning, or say anything about arrests for some of the people in the video, but I see your point. I agree that this is kind of pointless to discuss, but oh well. Sorry for calling you a cop apologist, there are so many I see all the time that go unchallenged, so I felt the need to step in.

Lol, you never see the context when a cop uses force. A justified take down isn't sexy and won't go viral. A smartly edited video showing a cop slam a girl for apparently no reason is a view getter... even if the girl had been assaulting and resisting police just seconds earlier. But, fuckit... WORLD STAR!!!, WORLD STAR YO!!

Till you know the full story, there is no place for actionable judgement.
May 25 2016 7:35PM
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theBearJew
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.ZT.Yeah fair enough, I read the article linked above, and it explains in broader context that this was a demonstration. My bad for assuming otherwise. I didn't see the police give warning, or say anything about arrests for some of the people in the video, but I see your point. I agree that this is kind of pointless to discuss, but oh well. Sorry for calling you a cop apologist, there are so many I see all the time that go unchallenged, so I felt the need to step in.


I know the feeling. Can't let dumbasses run free on the internet. Someone needs to stop them.
May 25 2016 10:23PM
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