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.MASSHOLE.
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Well, the season hasn't even ended for some lucky few out in CO and UT, but DPS has already teased us with a picture of a new pair of skis. Looks VERY different than what they normally produce.

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skidemon22
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.MASSHOLE.

Looks like a version of the Ghosts, not sure if an old model or next years.

Hope they're bringing it back in a 100+ flex


looks like an old post. those look like older Rocker2 108s
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BirtDike
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.MASSHOLE.

Looks like a version of the Ghosts, not sure if an old model or next years.

Hope they're bringing it back in a 100+ flex


Those look like 2014s..

I hope they bring it back.
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.MASSHOLE.
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skidemon22looks like an old post. those look like older Rocker2 108s


Damn it I got so excited too.
8 years ago
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skidemon22
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.MASSHOLE.Damn it I got so excited too.


I tried a pair of the 130 Ghosts, really did not love them... :/ but I have the '18 QST Pro 130 TR and those are dope haha. have you tried those?
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.MASSHOLE.
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skidemon22I tried a pair of the 130 Ghosts, really did not love them... :/ but I have the '18 QST Pro 130 TR and those are dope haha. have you tried those?


No but I find there is a big difference in flex when comparing a boot with a walk mode to one without it.
8 years ago
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.MASSHOLE.
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Here it is, the elusive Salomon competitor to the Kingpin.


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gapersarefriends
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.MASSHOLE.Here it is, the elusive Salomon competitor to the Kingpin.




Why do those look so terrible?
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.MASSHOLE.Here it is, the elusive Salomon competitor to the Kingpin.




Those look like a Salomon version of the Trab TR2's. Toe piece looks identical except the Solly looks maybe plastic? If they get the heel right (step in) these could be killer. The TR2's require you to hold the heel open to step in.
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.MASSHOLE.
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Maybe this is a new Ghost. Don't recall a black one, unless it's an older Ghost 110. But Jeremie Heitz doesn't strike me as someone who skis a 110.

Also, it looked like Sage is using the Atomic version of that Salomon binding here.He says it is a Proto. https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb90VhiFZxG/?taken-by=sage_cattabriga_alosa
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schusson
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.MASSHOLE.Here it is, the elusive Salomon competitor to the Kingpin.




I talked to a buddy about these the other day, he went to the Salomon/Atomic HQ a few months back for a meeting about the new bindings. He's supposed to be getting a pair later this year and gonna let me test them and provide feedback. Supposedly going to blow Kingpins out of the water. They are a mix between a tech and alpine binding. They have pin capabilities for the uphill, but when its time to actually ski them, youre locked into the binding like an alpine toe. Elastic travel in both toe and heel so you dont have the same harsh ride as you would in a normal tech binding. Looks like a pretty solid system that they have been working on for quite some time.
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.lencon
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schussonI talked to a buddy about these the other day, he went to the Salomon/Atomic HQ a few months back for a meeting about the new bindings. He's supposed to be getting a pair later this year and gonna let me test them and provide feedback. Supposedly going to blow Kingpins out of the water. They are a mix between a tech and alpine binding. They have pin capabilities for the uphill, but when its time to actually ski them, youre locked into the binding like an alpine toe. Elastic travel in both toe and heel so you dont have the same harsh ride as you would in a normal tech binding. Looks like a pretty solid system that they have been working on for quite some time.


It is basically Salomons version of what CAST has going on right now.
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schusson
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.lenconIt is basically Salomons version of what CAST has going on right now.


I wouldnt go as far as to say that, CAST just re-engineered the existing components of the pivots and still requires you to carry the separate toes around. These salomons were built from the ground up and all you have to do is flip a lever on the toe and youre in hike mode.
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.MASSHOLE.
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So when you're in ski mode, does it require pin use at all?

If not, it sounds like you could do a CAST boot-mod and use an alpine boot.

I imagine onenerdykid will explain more once he is allowed to.

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I'll be curious as to if it is more metal or plastic. Pictures look like plastic. I imagine if it's metal it'll be quite heavy. If it's plastic, per usual there will be durability question marks.

Nothing will replace the satisfying snap of an FKS/Pivot 18 or STH16.

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.lencon
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.MASSHOLE.So when you're in ski mode, does it require pin use at all?

If not, it sounds like you could do a CAST boot-mod and use an alpine boot.

I imagine onenerdykid will explain more once he is allowed to.

Edit:

I'll be curious as to if it is more metal or plastic. Pictures look like plastic. I imagine if it's metal it'll be quite heavy. If it's plastic, per usual there will be durability question marks.

Nothing will replace the satisfying snap of an FKS/Pivot 18 or STH16.

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I think it's supposed to drop this winter if I'm not mistaken. Info at least...
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Pataguccimane
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Maybe this is a new Ghost. Don't recall a black one, unless it's an older Ghost 110. But Jeremie Heitz doesn't strike me as someone who skis a 110.


I can’t recall a black ghost, but if this is a new ghost it’s def something to be excited about, they fit my diet quite well when I tried them on a few years back but ended up staying in spks due to my feet still growing and I figured I’d go with ghosts eventually. Definitely interesting stuff
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VTwintips
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Anybody buy Look Pivots lately? Ordered mine with pro-deal about 6 weeks ago and nothing still. In Denver, CO. Apparently they had a recall on some produced in July of this year or something. Starting to lose faith at this point ...
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schusson
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.MASSHOLE.So when you're in ski mode, does it require pin use at all?

If not, it sounds like you could do a CAST boot-mod and use an alpine boot.

I imagine onenerdykid will explain more once he is allowed to.

Edit:

I'll be curious as to if it is more metal or plastic. Pictures look like plastic. I imagine if it's metal it'll be quite heavy. If it's plastic, per usual there will be durability question marks.

Nothing will replace the satisfying snap of an FKS/Pivot 18 or STH16.

**This post was edited on Nov 26th 2017 at 10:35:17pm


From what I heard it sounds as though it wont require use of pins on the downhill, it also sounds like it is mostly plastic but I wouldnt be worried about strength issues. With the new technology lately plastic is getting stronger and lighter.
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Pataguccimane
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.MASSHOLE.


Maybe this is a new Ghost. Don't recall a black one, unless it's an older Ghost 110. But Jeremie Heitz doesn't strike me as someone who skis a 110.





Saw these on Cody's ig story yesterday. Definitely not the same boots as Jeremie is riding and they don't look like anything in the current lineup, so maybe Salomon is doing a bit of a revamp idk

hmmmmmmm

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.MASSHOLE.
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Pataguccimane

Saw these on Cody's ig story yesterday. Definitely not the same boots as Jeremie is riding and they don't look like anything in the current lineup, so maybe Salomon is doing a bit of a revamp idk

hmmmmmmm

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Those are the boots that were custom made by Cody when he and a few other Salomon athletes went to the HQ in France.

Think he has had em for a few seasons.
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Pataguccimane
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.MASSHOLE.Those are the boots that were custom made by Cody when he and a few other Salomon athletes went to the HQ in France.

Think he has had em for a few seasons.


Makes sense now
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skidemon22
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Pataguccimane

Saw these on Cody's ig story yesterday. Definitely not the same boots as Jeremie is riding and they don't look like anything in the current lineup, so maybe Salomon is doing a bit of a revamp idk

hmmmmmmm

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i wonder if those are his skis... could be a new ski...
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patagonialuke
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skidemon22i wonder if those are his skis... could be a new ski...


Those are the old Rocker2 100’s
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cydwhit
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patagonialukeThose are the old Rocker2 100’s


A ski that should come back please!
7 years ago
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skidemon22
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patagonialukeThose are the old Rocker2 100’s


yep, good call

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KravtZ
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cydwhitA ski that should come back please!


Agree. Love my QST 118's but if they made a similar ski just more freestyle oriented and a little more playful would much rather ride those.
7 years ago
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jps2.0


Tracer 88 on the right and JJ zero on the left...Still confused as to why tyw was ripping around on the tracers
7 years ago
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patagonialuke
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gapersarefriendsTracer 88 on the right and JJ zero on the left...Still confused as to why tyw was ripping around on the tracers

Same. I feel like it’s gotta just be the top sheet. No idea why he’d be on a ~1300 g ski, and with Pivots...
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patagonialukeSame. I feel like it’s gotta just be the top sheet. No idea why he’d be on a ~1300 g ski, and with Pivots...


I thought the same thing, but why put that lame ass topsheet on anything else?
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jps2.0
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guessing the new k2 catamaran
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.MASSHOLE.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BcUyV0FB6j9/?taken-by=salomonfreeski
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.MASSHOLE.https://www.instagram.com/p/BcUyV0FB6j9/?taken-by=salomonfreeski


It's those binders that have been talked about
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.MASSHOLE.
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.lenconIt's those binders that have been talked about


Oh I know, it looks like we'll have a press-release by Friday.
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gapersarefriendsTracer 88 on the right and JJ zero on the left...Still confused as to why tyw was ripping around on the tracers


return of the turn baby!
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gapersarefriends
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patagonialukeSame. I feel like it’s gotta just be the top sheet. No idea why he’d be on a ~1300 g ski, and with Pivots...


SofaKingSickI thought the same thing, but why put that lame ass topsheet on anything else?


Broseph_Stalinreturn of the turn baby!


It has gotta be him not wanting to ride shitty early season park and drag some hips instead
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patagonialuke
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gapersarefriendsIt has gotta be him not wanting to ride shitty early season park and drag some hips instead


yeah but that is *not a hip-dragging carving ski. It has a stated weight of 1220 g for the 172. It's a full-on ultralight skimo ski. The only thing I can think of is that it's a proto park ski (88 mm waist would make sense) and that's just the top sheet they decided to put on it. But who knows.
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gapersarefriends
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patagonialukeyeah but that is *not a hip-dragging carving ski. It has a stated weight of 1220 g for the 172. It's a full-on ultralight skimo ski. The only thing I can think of is that it's a proto park ski (88 mm waist would make sense) and that's just the top sheet they decided to put on it. But who knows.


Yeah i'm lost, i feel like you could still carve pretty good on a ar8 or whatever zero park ski he rides. Or an invictus. And fuck those are light
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patagonialuke
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.MASSHOLE.Oh I know, it looks like we'll have a press-release by Friday.


Yep. Expect a writeup from Blister Friday AM.
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gapersarefriendsYeah i'm lost, i feel like you could still carve pretty good on a ar8 or whatever zero park ski he rides. Or an invictus. And fuck those are light


If they were made with the same idea in mind that they made the other tracer skis I would be on that so fast. I see why it would be attractive, i appears to have a greater effective edge, less of that nose rocker and and more forgiving/ easier to release tail. Invictus is great and all, but if I wanted a full on groomer ski I would probably look to another company that has deep racing roots. That’s just the old man in me speaking.
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Spooooookkkkyyyyy
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gapersarefriends
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Broseph_StalinIf they were made with the same idea in mind that they made the other tracer skis I would be on that so fast. I see why it would be attractive, i appears to have a greater effective edge, less of that nose rocker and and more forgiving/ easier to release tail. Invictus is great and all, but if I wanted a full on groomer ski I would probably look to another company that has deep racing roots. That’s just the old man in me speaking.


Yeah if i wanted a groomer ski i'd just get a race ski
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tomPietrowski
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jps2.0

guessing the new k2 catamaran


Not the cat but it is one ofnext seasons models. We were up skiing all the new gear in whistler this week for sales meetings. Wait until you guys see the new boots.

As for the solly binding me and Lee Lau are working on the review so look out for that hopefully after SIA
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.MASSHOLE.
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tomPietrowskiNot the cat but it is one ofnext seasons models. We were up skiing all the new gear in whistler this week for sales meetings. Wait until you guys see the new boots.

As for the solly binding me and Lee Lau are working on the review so look out for that hopefully after SIA


Changing their boots eh?

Are they still going to weigh a ton?
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.MASSHOLE.Changing their boots eh?

Are they still going to weigh a ton?


25% lighter apparently. And the new alpine boot claimed to be lighter than a hawx ulta
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.MASSHOLE.
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-SnowSnoli-25% lighter apparently. And the new alpine boot claimed to be lighter than a hawx ulta


If it's replacing the pro, that'd make it, what, 1500 grams for a boot+liner?

If it's the regular boot, that'd make it, what, 1730 grams?

That top puts it on par with the MTN Lab, Zero G Guide Pro, and Hawk Ultra XTD.
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.MASSHOLE.If it's replacing the pro, that'd make it, what, 1500 grams for a boot+liner?

If it's the regular boot, that'd make it, what, 1730 grams?

That top puts it on par with the MTN Lab, Zero G Guide Pro, and Hawk Ultra XTD.


The replacement for the spyne 130 will be lighter than the atomic hawx ultra 130 not the xtd .

Don’t know about the pinnacle Though. It’s a hell a lot of weight they need to shave off
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.MASSHOLE.
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-SnowSnoli-The replacement for the spyne 130 will be lighter than the atomic hawx ultra 130 not the xtd .

Don’t know about the pinnacle Though. It’s a hell a lot of weight they need to shave off


Yeah I meant the touring boot, not the Spyne.
7 years ago
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patagonialukeYep. Expect a writeup from Blister Friday AM.

Between those morons and wildsnow I can't wait to read a couple retyped press release with an extra 2000 words of shifty filler, lip service and double digit IQ speculation posing as a contribution to the ski community.



Since its not made by Dynafit, wildsnow might hold some of the lip service in favor of pinched nose discussion about how it weighs to much to be a real touring binding despite coming in lighter than another binding which he hailed as a game changer.
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tomPietrowski
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.MASSHOLE.If it's replacing the pro, that'd make it, what, 1500 grams for a boot+liner?

If it's the regular boot, that'd make it, what, 1730 grams?

That top puts it on par with the MTN Lab, Zero G Guide Pro, and Hawk Ultra XTD.


Next season sees the replacement for the spyne boot. The weight is low like mid 1600g for a 26. They ski so well too. Better I would say then the current models.

The pinnacle stays the same but updates are on the way a couple of years from now.
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