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.MASSHOLE.
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Well, the season hasn't even ended for some lucky few out in CO and UT, but DPS has already teased us with a picture of a new pair of skis. Looks VERY different than what they normally produce.

[Link to hub of all Newschoolers Coverage of 2017-2018 Product]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFj5-fEpxPx/?taken-by=dpsskis

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May 18 2016 4:11PM
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Deepskier
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SofaKingSickOh yeah I just meant where's the best place online to look at next year's armada lineup


On ns just for their public hardgoods. other than that I can't find anything yet.
Apr 25 2017 6:04PM
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BrawnTrends
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schussonSuper bummed K2 dropped the shreditor line


Have you tried the Marksman?
Apr 27 2017 5:32AM
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Flozz
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My 2018 ARV86s just got delivered. The graphic on them is unreal! Interestingly though it says they're made in the Czech Republic. I thought all their skis came out of Austria? Anyone know what thats all about? Hopefully the quality is unchanged!
May 7 2017 7:28PM
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cobra_commander
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FlozzMy 2018 ARV86s just got delivered. The graphic on them is unreal! Interestingly though it says they're made in the Czech Republic. I thought all their skis came out of Austria? Anyone know what thats all about? Hopefully the quality is unchanged!


Armada has contracted skis out to multiple factories operated by Atomic and Blizzard. The higher end metal laminate skis are produced by Blizzard (Invictus 108, declivity, ARV 106). Most of the others are produced by Atomic. Atomic has multiple factories in Austria and Eastern Europe to include Chech Republic and Bulgaria. Lower price point skis like the ARV 86 and 96 are produced in those factories with cheaper labor. The JJ and TST are produced in the Atomic Austrian facility.
You can also compare SNs to determine which factory they came from
May 8 2017 12:38PM
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Flozz
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cobra_commanderArmada has contracted skis out to multiple factories operated by Atomic and Blizzard. The higher end metal laminate skis are produced by Blizzard (Invictus 108, declivity, ARV 106). Most of the others are produced by Atomic. Atomic has multiple factories in Austria and Eastern Europe to include Chech Republic and Bulgaria. Lower price point skis like the ARV 86 and 96 are produced in those factories with cheaper labor. The JJ and TST are produced in the Atomic Austrian facility.
You can also compare SNs to determine which factory they came from


Gotcha, my previous AR6, 7 and JJ are all made in Austria so I was kinda surprised that these weren't. At any rate, the Czech Rep is pretty close to Austria anyway haha.
May 8 2017 5:12PM
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loganimlach
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cobra_commanderArmada has contracted skis out to multiple factories operated by Atomic and Blizzard. The higher end metal laminate skis are produced by Blizzard (Invictus 108, declivity, ARV 106). Most of the others are produced by Atomic. Atomic has multiple factories in Austria and Eastern Europe to include Chech Republic and Bulgaria. Lower price point skis like the ARV 86 and 96 are produced in those factories with cheaper labor. The JJ and TST are produced in the Atomic Austrian facility.
You can also compare SNs to determine which factory they came from


Actually 86 and 96 are made in a Head Factory, but same situation as Atomic, one of their eastern europe subsidiaries.
May 9 2017 11:20PM
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loganimlach
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loganimlachActually 86 and 96 are made in a Head Factory, but same situation as Atomic, one of their eastern europe subsidiaries.


*were made in the Head factory... haha. Now it's all made by Amer in whatever factory they choose.
May 9 2017 11:22PM
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cobra_commander
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Lol,

Thank you for the correction.
May 9 2017 11:57PM
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onenerdykid
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loganimlach*were made in the Head factory... haha. Now it's all made by Amer in whatever factory they choose.


We have 2 ski factories: the main one in Altenmarkt, Austria and another one in Bulgaria.
May 10 2017 2:37AM
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Deepskier
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loganimlach*were made in the Head factory... haha. Now it's all made by Amer in whatever factory they choose.


onenerdykidWe have 2 ski factories: the main one in Altenmarkt, Austria and another one in Bulgaria.


I have hit up like 5 people for a 2018 softgoods and zero lookbook and can't get a response. I have scoured the internet. Where can I find them?
May 10 2017 11:59PM
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Deepskier
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FlozzMy 2018 ARV86s just got delivered. The graphic on them is unreal! Interestingly though it says they're made in the Czech Republic. I thought all their skis came out of Austria? Anyone know what thats all about? Hopefully the quality is unchanged!


How did you get them so early
May 11 2017 12:00AM
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SEABURN
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DeepskierI have hit up like 5 people for a 2018 softgoods and zero lookbook and can't get a response. I have scoured the internet. Where can I find them?


PATIENCE. It's May... they'll probably be all over the web by October.
May 11 2017 7:47PM
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Deepskier
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SEABURNPATIENCE. It's May... they'll probably be all over the web by October.


Yeah its set to drop end of September I belive but there are thing I know 100% I'll order and want to get out of the way in one order. And if they don't have anything I want I'll make plans for other companies but if there is a ton of cool shit I'll have more time to save dollars
May 11 2017 8:38PM
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SEABURN
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haha, stack the cash my dude. I'm glad you're so into it. People like you keep me employed. :)
May 11 2017 9:11PM
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onenerdykid
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DeepskierI have hit up like 5 people for a 2018 softgoods and zero lookbook and can't get a response. I have scoured the internet. Where can I find them?


SEABURNPATIENCE. It's May... they'll probably be all over the web by October.


If the brand does not sell direct-to-consumer, then they don't offer consumer catalogs & lookbooks. They only offer them to dealers, so you will have to ask a shop or a shop employee for them.

For these brands, their websites go live in early Fall.
May 12 2017 2:43AM
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Deepskier
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onenerdykidIf the brand does not sell direct-to-consumer, then they don't offer consumer catalogs & lookbooks. They only offer them to dealers, so you will have to ask a shop or a shop employee for them.

For these brands, their websites go live in early Fall.


Yes that why I said it drops September, thanks though. However you can order from the manufacturer in the case pf armada but regardless, through ski team though I should be able to place an order as an athlete.
May 12 2017 10:54AM
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Flozz
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DeepskierHow did you get them so early


I'm in NZ, it's coming up to our winter now so I guess we get the stuff early if it's ready.
May 14 2017 5:05PM
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Deepskier
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FlozzI'm in NZ, it's coming up to our winter now so I guess we get the stuff early if it's ready.


Who did you order through?
May 14 2017 8:34PM
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Flozz
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DeepskierWho did you order through?


Just my local shop (who then get them from ArmadaNZ).

Unsure exactly who ArmadaNZ deals with though
May 14 2017 9:19PM
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Deepskier
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FlozzJust my local shop (who then get them from ArmadaNZ).

Unsure exactly who ArmadaNZ deals with though


Oh ok thanks
May 14 2017 9:34PM
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BirtDike
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.[sanhedrin].


Any more info on these?

Could be a great quiver ski. I hope they make a 190
May 24 2017 10:39AM
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Session
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LazerHawkAny more info on these?

Could be a great quiver ski. I hope they make a 190



I have to imagine that since Logan no longer works for Armada, and they just got sold to Amer that these will not be seeing the light of day.
May 24 2017 1:46PM
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BirtDike
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SessionI have to imagine that since Logan no longer works for Armada, and they just got sold to Amer that these will not be seeing the light of day.



Word, At least I have my Cease N Desists.
May 24 2017 3:53PM
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loganimlach
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SessionI have to imagine that since Logan no longer works for Armada, and they just got sold to Amer that these will not be seeing the light of day.


Eh they're in good hands with Hans and Andy, without giving too much away some of the construction methods that I used might not be feasible with our production facilities anyways. There's a lot more to that ski than what you can see in that photo. We will see though, maybe when I get my shop set up in Alaska I'll try and prototype that idea some more
May 25 2017 4:30PM
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.[sanhedrin].
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loganimlachEh they're in good hands with Hans and Andy, without giving too much away some of the construction methods that I used might not be feasible with our production facilities anyways. There's a lot more to that ski than what you can see in that photo. We will see though, maybe when I get my shop set up in Alaska I'll try and prototype that idea some more


Please do! And congrats on your wedding!
Jun 13 2017 5:02PM
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Crispy.
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Anyone know if anything besides the graphic is changing for the 2018 poacher?
Jun 18 2017 2:56PM
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.nasty
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Crispy.Anyone know if anything besides the graphic is changing for the 2018 poacher?


it's the same
Jun 18 2017 6:00PM
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Deepskier
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Idk if anyone saw these from last week:







Jun 28 2017 2:53PM
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Deepskier
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Not sure why those look so blurry but even when its clear I can't tell what the graphic is on the JJ. Still dope tho.
Jun 28 2017 2:54PM
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SofaKingSick
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DeepskierNot sure why those look so blurry but even when its clear I can't tell what the graphic is on the JJ. Still dope tho.


what skis are the bottom two pairs?
Jun 28 2017 2:55PM
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Deepskier
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SofaKingSickwhat skis are the bottom two pairs?


From the top to the bottom:
JJ zero
Al dente/ Dollo zero
Ar8 zero
Jun 28 2017 2:56PM
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SofaKingSick
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DeepskierFrom the top to the bottom:
JJ zero
Al dente/ Dollo zero
Ar8 zero


Thanks. God id love some dente zeros
Jun 29 2017 9:00AM
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Deepskier
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SofaKingSickThanks. God id love some dente zeros


Something about the tip looks really wierd to me. It looks like it rises about a cm and is widest at the very end
Jun 29 2017 1:02PM
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SofaKingSick
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DeepskierSomething about the tip looks really wierd to me. It looks like it rises about a cm and is widest at the very end

weird picture in general haha
Jun 29 2017 2:21PM
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Deepskier
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SofaKingSickweird picture in general haha

No I mean even in person, it's wierd it doesn't seem that way on the edollos
Jun 29 2017 2:25PM
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SofaKingSick
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DeepskierNo I mean even in person, it's wierd it doesn't seem that way on the edollos


ohh i see. no idea then
Jun 29 2017 4:00PM
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loganimlach
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Promise it's the same exact shape
Jul 2 2017 9:05PM
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kapsy
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Seems you can actually buy the new Zero series now in Australia. http://www.rhythmsnowsports.com.au/skis/skis.html?dir=desc&order=created_at&pos_brands=358
Jul 14 2017 9:13PM
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Deepskier
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loganimlachPromise it's the same exact shape


Im sure it is its just the way its looked both years. Its not good or bad just funny to me.
Jul 14 2017 9:47PM
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.nasty
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kapsySeems you can actually buy the new Zero series now in Australia. http://www.rhythmsnowsports.com.au/skis/skis.html?dir=desc&order=created_at&pos_brands=358


Bet those won't be on there long. Zero stuff isn't supposed to be online. We have them all at Slope Style here in Breck as well, we can always take phone orders if you really want them.
Jul 15 2017 1:57PM
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K-Dot.
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.nastyBet those won't be on there long. Zero stuff isn't supposed to be online. We have them all at Slope Style here in Breck as well, we can always take phone orders if you really want them.


Whenever I've seen them online they won't ship outside of the country, don't know if that's the case here tho
Jul 15 2017 6:22PM
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.nasty
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K-Dot.Whenever I've seen them online they won't ship outside of the country, don't know if that's the case here tho


Different countries have different rules, like this site will probably get away with selling em online when they were told not to. Oh well! In the U.S. it's probably the most strictly enforced.
Jul 15 2017 8:05PM
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Deepskier
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You can buy them online in the U.K. And Australia but the us is pretty strict about it. Always thought they should make last years zero available so they can move the stock
Jul 16 2017 10:12AM
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.nasty
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DeepskierYou can buy them online in the U.K. And Australia but the us is pretty strict about it. Always thought they should make last years zero available so they can move the stock


meh, the demand is there. The only thing we have left at the shop here is a couple ar8's.
Jul 16 2017 11:53AM
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Deepskier
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.nastymeh, the demand is there. The only thing we have left at the shop here is a couple ar8's.

lol I know but I want some
Jul 16 2017 6:04PM
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Seniorski
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.lencon4FRNT is bringing back the MSP for their 15 year anniversary..

Supposed to be like 99mm waist, >20m radius.


The new MSP181 will be 99 waist with an 18mm side cut and two layers of metal. Lengths will be 159,161,165,171,176.181 and 187. The waist will remain at 99mm so the sidecut will change on the various lengths.
Aug 14 2017 3:07PM
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.lencon
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SeniorskiThe new MSP181 will be 99 waist with an 18mm side cut and two layers of metal. Lengths will be 159,161,165,171,176.181 and 187. The waist will remain at 99mm so the sidecut will change on the various lengths.


Who da fuk r u ?
Aug 14 2017 7:53PM
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Deepskier
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I still cant tell what this graphic is other than abstract.

PS https://www.freezeproshop.com/brand/armada-zero/sortkey:new added some 2018 zero stuff, looks like more to come.
Aug 15 2017 4:27PM
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soupcan
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Anybody know when next years black ops stuff goes live?
Sep 16 2017 2:13PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Looks like a version of the Ghosts, not sure if an old model or next years.

Hope they're bringing it back in a 100+ flex
Oct 22 2017 2:48PM
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