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.MASSHOLE.
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Well, the season hasn't even ended for some lucky few out in CO and UT, but DPS has already teased us with a picture of a new pair of skis. Looks VERY different than what they normally produce.

[Link to hub of all Newschoolers Coverage of 2017-2018 Product]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFj5-fEpxPx/?taken-by=dpsskis

[Editor's Updates from Newschoolers at SIA]

Line Skis

Armada Skis

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May 18 2016 4:11PM
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pduncan
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I'm still waiting for the 16/17 to come out!
May 18 2016 4:25PM
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patagonialuke
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that ski looks sexy as hell. very intriguing shape.
May 18 2016 6:33PM
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Gear for the 2017/2018 season...

What a time to be alive
May 18 2016 7:05PM
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hot.pocket
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You sure those won't be 16/17 skis? Seems awful early to be testing 17/18...
May 18 2016 7:24PM
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patagonialuke
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hot.pocketYou sure those won't be 16/17 skis? Seems awful early to be testing 17/18...


I didn't see anything like that at SIA, so I'm pretty sure it's not being sold next year.
May 18 2016 7:41PM
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onenerdykid
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hot.pocketYou sure those won't be 16/17 skis? Seems awful early to be testing 17/18...


As of right now (May 19, 2016), most brands should have fairly dialed products for 17/18.

Here's generally why: if a brand wants to launch a new product at SIA/ISPO 2017 for fall 2017 delivery, they have to have final samples done in December 2016/January 2017. That means all performance testing, durability testing, production line, etc done for at least one size by December 2016. That means early samples (protos with proper colors & graphics) should be done by about now. First raw/skiable prototypes should be skied during winter 2016. First product ideas summer of 2015. Timelines for specific products will for sure vary, meaning skis (especially for smaller companies) don't take nearly as long as boots or bindings for example.

Long story short, when you see a hardgood product at SIA/ISPO, it was first thought about and conceptualized about 1.5-2 years before that, sometimes shorter, sometimes longer.
May 19 2016 3:15AM
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hot.pocket
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onenerdykidAs of right now (May 19, 2016), most brands should have fairly dialed products for 17/18.

Here's generally why: if a brand wants to launch a new product at SIA/ISPO 2017 for fall 2017 delivery, they have to have final samples done in December 2016/January 2017. That means all performance testing, durability testing, production line, etc done for at least one size by December 2016. That means early samples (protos with proper colors & graphics) should be done by about now. First raw/skiable prototypes should be skied during winter 2016. First product ideas summer of 2015. Timelines for specific products will for sure vary, meaning skis (especially for smaller companies) don't take nearly as long as boots or bindings for example.

Long story short, when you see a hardgood product at SIA/ISPO, it was first thought about and conceptualized about 1.5-2 years before that, sometimes shorter, sometimes longer.


This makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the input!
May 19 2016 11:31AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Looks like new Blizzard skis.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHQSM4CBp1V/?taken-by=tecnicaskiboots
Jun 29 2016 6:17PM
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alextheknife
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It's nearly December, any news? Salomon NFX has been the only ski I've seen from 2018. Same kind of graphics as this year, just black.

Nov 30 2016 1:43PM
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patagonialuke
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.MASSHOLE.Looks like new Blizzard skis.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHQSM4CBp1V/?taken-by=tecnicaskiboots


I've heard rumors of a fairly comprehensive overhaul of Blizzard's freeride line. Very excited to see what they do to what's already a very successful group of skis.
Nov 30 2016 2:30PM
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tomPietrowski
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Most brands have there product previews in whistler this week. Im actually off to the K2 factory on Sunday for product meetings regarding all the new gear for next season and should be on the new skis and boots by next week. Still does seem kind of crazy that we are already dealing with next season even though the current season only started a week ago.
Nov 30 2016 10:04PM
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patagonialuke
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Brody Leven's Instagram story today had some new Salomon Skis.

Had "S-Lab" on them, so I'm guessing they'll be for the ultralight skimo market.
Dec 1 2016 7:36PM
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-WZ-
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2017-2018 Smith helmets and goggles, as well as the athlete collection:

https://issuu.com/smithoptics/docs/smith_1718_snow_issuu
https://issuu.com/smithoptics/docs/1718_smith_athlete_collection_3b5a018bf70cee
Dec 1 2016 8:34PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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tomPietrowskiMost brands have there product previews in whistler this week. Im actually off to the K2 factory on Sunday for product meetings regarding all the new gear for next season and should be on the new skis and boots by next week. Still does seem kind of crazy that we are already dealing with next season even though the current season only started a week ago.


Give us some teaser if ya can!
Dec 2 2016 12:35PM
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.[sanhedrin].
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'17-'18 Scarpa

Dec 7 2016 3:09PM
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SofaKingSick
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patagonialukeBrody Leven's Instagram story today had some new Salomon Skis.

Had "S-Lab" on them, so I'm guessing they'll be for the ultralight skimo market.


wait what's skimo?
Dec 7 2016 4:38PM
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FNJ
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^shorthand for ski mountaineering
Dec 7 2016 4:46PM
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SofaKingSick
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FNJ^shorthand for ski mountaineering


ahh of course, thanks man
Dec 7 2016 5:21PM
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.lencon
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4FRNT is bringing back the MSP for their 15 year anniversary..

Supposed to be like 99mm waist, >20m radius.
Dec 7 2016 6:10PM
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skidemon22
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-WZ-2017-2018 Smith helmets and goggles, as well as the athlete collection:

https://issuu.com/smithoptics/docs/smith_1718_snow_issuu
https://issuu.com/smithoptics/docs/1718_smith_athlete_collection_3b5a018bf70cee


you da real MVP
Dec 9 2016 12:02AM
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Swandog7
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.lencon4FRNT is bringing back the MSP for their 15 year anniversary..

Supposed to be like 99mm waist, >20m radius.


What ended up replacing them after they got discontinued in like 2012? or whatever it was
Dec 10 2016 11:20PM
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Sz.Karpiel
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BNjmfqIDjEo/?taken-by=dennisranalter

base of new Atomic's they have white topsheet so it's either new PUNX/Infamous or Atomic Custom Studio ski
Dec 11 2016 9:57PM
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jps2.0
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Sz.Karpielhttps://www.instagram.com/p/BNjmfqIDjEo/?taken-by=dennisranalter

base of new Atomic's they have white topsheet so it's either new PUNX/Infamous or Atomic Custom Studio ski


dennis ranalter skis on atomic custom studio skis
Dec 12 2016 6:24PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Keep an eye on the big mountain Salomon skiers, they're having a get together at Whistler testing new gear and such.
Dec 12 2016 8:47PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BN-EtUBA8K1/?taken-by=theogjuicyginaLooks like new boots on Elyse?
Dec 13 2016 3:13PM
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skidemon22
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.MASSHOLE.Keep an eye on the big mountain Salomon skiers, they're having a get together at Whistler testing new gear and such.


I wonder if it must be all new MTN Lab stuff. The QST line is a full carryover for next year (not even graphic changes). Rocker2 100 is gone :(
Dec 14 2016 4:37PM
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.[sanhedrin].
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Does not surprise me. Rossignol proved it's possible to carry over graphics for two and even three seasons. And I'm certain the peeps at Salomon had a design brief that basically called for a Soul7 with a Salomon badge on it.
Dec 14 2016 4:49PM
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skidemon22
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.[sanhedrin].Does not surprise me. Rossignol proved it's possible to carry over graphics for two and even three seasons. And I'm certain the peeps at Salomon had a design brief that basically called for a Soul7 with a Salomon badge on it.


Yeah, its def becoming a trend these days to do full carry overs. its better for the industry I think, maybe not quite as good for the consumer. It means ski shops don't have to cut into their margins as much with blow out discounts. If it doesn't sell, they can roll it into next seasons inventory. This cuts down on shipping (smaller orders the next year, possibly; better for enviro a little...), it keeps brick and mortar stores relevant and means that people that buy this year won't be on 'dated' product come next year..

The brands that are doing this (so far) have been:

Rossi
K2
Salomon
Volkl (mainly VWerks line)
Marker
Dec 15 2016 1:13AM
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Dddsz
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skidemon22people that buy this year won't be on 'dated' product come next year..


Wait, do people actually worry about this? Skiers with beat up gear and duct tape on their gloves are usually core as fuck.
Dec 15 2016 9:10AM
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skidemon22
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SconnieWait, do people actually worry about this? Skiers with beat up gear and duct tape on their gloves are usually core as fuck.


Yes but that is a small percentage of the market. And it might not be as important as the other sides of this trend for manufacturers to carry over ski, but it doesn't hurt
Dec 15 2016 12:35PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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ZeroG 115?
Dec 16 2016 11:51AM
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minihef
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skidemon22Y

The brands that are doing this (so far) have been:

Rossi
K2
Salomon
Volkl (mainly VWerks line)
Marker


Blizzard too.
Dec 16 2016 2:08PM
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skidemon22
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minihefBlizzard too.


Good call, and tecnica...
Dec 17 2016 3:02AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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skidemon22Good call, and tecnica...


Tecnica re-did their entire boot line this year with the Cochise and ZeroG.

It's stupid IMO to launch new boots every year. Not to mention costly.
Dec 17 2016 12:20PM
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skidemon22
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.MASSHOLE.Tecnica re-did their entire boot line this year with the Cochise and ZeroG.

It's stupid IMO to launch new boots every year. Not to mention costly.


yeah this years stuff looks great. and I agree, very expensive to launch new product...
Dec 17 2016 3:56PM
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minihef
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.MASSHOLE.Tecnica re-did their entire boot line this year with the Cochise and ZeroG.

It's stupid IMO to launch new boots every year. Not to mention costly.


Yeah, as far as I know Tecnica/Blizzard will continue with heavier revamps of 'families' from their line up every few seasons rather than tweaks every year. E.G. carving line up completely revamped this year with the bullrider freeride skis carried over and so on.

Seems like a smarter way of managing inventory and making more substantive changes as technologies change rather than just smaller tweaks every season.
Dec 17 2016 8:35PM
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cozyco
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https://www.wildsnow.com/21378/fritschi-ski-touring-evo-tecton-vipec/

finally some nice news! Maybe I ll have saved enough for it till next winter. Sounds really promising and 10 times better than the king pin.
Dec 19 2016 4:30PM
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.lencon
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_faaahttps://www.wildsnow.com/21378/fritschi-ski-touring-evo-tecton-vipec/

finally some nice news! Maybe I ll have saved enough for it till next winter. Sounds really promising and 10 times better than the king pin.


How much should they be? How are they so much better than king pins? What dins are available?

They look nice for sureseys. I want a touring ski next year to get pitted in the BC.
Dec 19 2016 5:26PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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_faaahttps://www.wildsnow.com/21378/fritschi-ski-touring-evo-tecton-vipec/

finally some nice news! Maybe I ll have saved enough for it till next winter. Sounds really promising and 10 times better than the king pin.


Not sold on the fact it is a lot of plastic...

but glad to see there are more options like that.
Dec 19 2016 8:33PM
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.[sanhedrin].
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Dec 20 2016 1:11AM
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.nasty
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-WZ-2017-2018 Smith helmets and goggles, as well as the athlete collection:

https://issuu.com/smithoptics/docs/smith_1718_snow_issuu
https://issuu.com/smithoptics/docs/1718_smith_athlete_collection_3b5a018bf70cee


As much as an established customer base Smith has, they need to release a super easy lens change option quick or they're going to fall behind. I've already seen it in the shop I work at, why get an I/O for 180 when a Dragon NFX2 is the same price but you get so much more?
Dec 20 2016 11:03AM
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funkynuggz
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heard the new edollos and bdog graphics are sick
Dec 20 2016 2:13PM
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Avifarer
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.[sanhedrin].


return of the arg?
Dec 20 2016 4:47PM
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.lencon
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Brettski.return of the arg?


Looks like it, and if it is, I might actually pick it up. I have been wanting a reverse sidecut ski for some time now. An updated CRJ would be ideal.

This graphics are so fresh as well.
Dec 20 2016 10:27PM
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SofaKingSick
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.lenconLooks like it, and if it is, I might actually pick it up. I have been wanting a reverse sidecut ski for some time now. An updated CRJ would be ideal.

This graphics are so fresh as well.


What am I missing here? CRJs weren't reverse sidecut were they
Dec 20 2016 11:41PM
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.lencon
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SofaKingSickWhat am I missing here? CRJs weren't reverse sidecut were they


Not full on, but they had that shape. It was kind of like taper/sidecut, so they were amazing in pow, but could handle some harder snow as well.
Dec 21 2016 12:07AM
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Kbob94
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Some new oakleys. Looks like a frameless Line Miner. Either way they are fresh af.
Dec 21 2016 12:10AM
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.nasty
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SofaKingSickWhat am I missing here? CRJs weren't reverse sidecut were they


they were more of a straight sidecut rather than reverse.
Dec 21 2016 11:50AM
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SofaKingSick
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.lenconNot full on, but they had that shape. It was kind of like taper/sidecut, so they were amazing in pow, but could handle some harder snow as well.


.nastythey were more of a straight sidecut rather than reverse.


hmm okay i must have them mistaken in my mind for an entirely different ski, maybe the s3... in my mind i was thinking of a sorta symmetrical, hooky sky. hm
Dec 21 2016 12:16PM
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