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7springsprod
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Have any of you have built your own PC? I'm looking into building one but never have before. I would consider myself somewhat tech savy but it is intimidating to see all the options for CPU's, motherboards, graphics cards, etc. What realistically would a decent rig run me if I want to focus on gaming and editing? Do I want to invest more in graphics? or CPU? What advantages of micro ATX vs ATX? Thanks for any help
Apr 30 2016 11:06PM
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DirtYStylE
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Buying all new components will cost you a fortune. I would recommend buying a used tower or rid, then upgrading the components to meet your needs.
Apr 30 2016 11:10PM
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LiquorLanch
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I built one in the fall. It was worth it. Check out reddit and use r/buildapc as your starting point. There are places where you can post what you need and someone will give you a recommendation. There's also a site that can tell you which parts are compatible and so forth.
May 1 2016 2:30AM
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LiquorLanch
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Adding on to what I said, build the best pc you can afford and you wont need to do anything major for a year or two.
May 1 2016 2:31AM
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CabbyArrant
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DirtYStylEBuying all new components will cost you a fortune. I would recommend buying a used tower or rid, then upgrading the components to meet your needs.


What do you consider a fortune. The one I built was 1000 cheaper than buying a factory made one with comparable components. I spent about $950 but you can build a decent one for about 500
May 1 2016 10:27AM
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DJtearegas
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ive built a couple. this was my most recent one http://www.overclock.net/t/1394743/build-log-sw1ft-done
May 1 2016 11:43AM
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mike759
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Focus on graphics and ram, you will be surprised with the power of the CPU. I mostly play csgo, but my 2gb graphics and 8gb ram will be going like 95% and my i7 cpu only like 10%
May 1 2016 12:53PM
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Tinga
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DJtearegasive built a couple. this was my most recent one http://www.overclock.net/t/1394743/build-log-sw1ft-done


I had no idea you could even spend 10 grand on a computer.
May 1 2016 1:00PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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If you were considering paying $1100 for the cheapest iMac which has laptop components, you're way better off making your own and doing a hackintosh if you refuse to run windows. For $1k you can get an i5, good video card, an SSD and a 1tb regular hard disk, case, psu, motherbord, 8gb ram.
May 1 2016 2:19PM
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mike759
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a_pla5tic_bagIf you were considering paying $1100 for the cheapest iMac which has laptop components, you're way better off making your own and doing a hackintosh if you refuse to run windows. For $1k you can get an i5, good video card, an SSD and a 1tb regular hard disk, case, psu, motherbord, 8gb ram.


you can do i7 and 16 gb ram for 1k
May 1 2016 2:28PM
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NinetyFour
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I built my first PC back in the fall. For me component choice was the hardest part of it all because there is so much to learn; ultimately it just takes a lot of reading and watching to get a good grasp on it all. For that my favorite sources are:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4
https://www.youtube.com/user/LinusTechTips
https://www.youtube.com/user/Jayztwocents
https://www.youtube.com/user/paulshardware

PCPartPicker is the best. Just to see what components have a lot of good ratings

Then feel free to ask questions here. I had NH_Operator help me with my first build and just having someone give a basic explanation on a couple of things really helped the clarity of it all.

Here's the spec for my build:

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/8tfr4D

I use it for gaming a lot. I play GTA Online on high settings and run at about 50-60FPS. All of the other games I play like TF2, CS:GO, Rocket League are all on max settings running a constant 60FPS. I haven't overclocked anything and the PC runs at a very cool 35C. In the future I'm planning on adding a second monitor, second 970 GPU in SLI, and 16G more ram.
May 1 2016 2:33PM
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Schlutz
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Really depends on what you want to do with the computer. There are tons of great youtube channels that describe how things work and the best way to configure certain components. Check out LinusTechTips or KitGuruTech for building guides and what not.
May 1 2016 2:37PM
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NinetyFour
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a_pla5tic_bagFor $1k you can get an i5, good video card, an SSD and a 1tb regular hard disk, case, psu, motherbord, 8gb ram.


I'd also like to forewarn Canadians... With the shit state of our bacon economy, prices are quite a bit spendier than our US neighbors. I spent around $1900 on my rig by the time I was done with shipping and taxes, while the same build would cost someone in the US around $1300 I think?

With that being said it was worth every penny. My PC runs extremely smooth and fast compared to this like 2008 i3 Gateway from Future Shop I used to operate on. It makes gaming and designing about 5000X more enjoyable than it was before.
May 1 2016 2:43PM
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7springsprod
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Currently looking like this as a part list.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3FMsbv


Thoughts guys?
May 1 2016 3:29PM
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Negromancer
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7springsprodCurrently looking like this as a part list.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3FMsbv


Thoughts guys?


The new line of AMD/Nvidia graphics cards are coming soon so you may wish to hold off on buying the GTX 970 another month or two and just wait and see how the new AMD Polaris and Nvidia Pascal GPUs stack up against the current generation of cards. There may be a huge leap in performance or it may just be the typical 10 - 15% gain in performance.

If you do decide to wait you can still game on the i7's intergrated graphics, it will be fine to play basic games like CS:GO, DOTA, LoL, etc until you pick a dedicated GPU.

As for the build I'd do something like this rather: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Xv4cZL
It's mainly the same as what you did however I changed the following:
i7 4970K to i7 6700K, changed to the latest generation of CPUs (Skylake) which means you get better performance, lower power consumption, access ti the latest chipset and features (Z170) and DDR4 RAM.
DDR3 to DDR4 RAM won't be a huge difference but if you can go faster and increase the systems lifespan for a little bit extra you may as well.
Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 3 motherboard to support Skylake CPU, I own this motherboard and it's great for the price, great audio, good software, good overclocking, and lots of features. \
Changed the case to a Fractal Design R5 - 10/10 case, great build quality, very good cable management and cooling and it's silent.
May 1 2016 7:51PM
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urbanjib
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DirtYStylEBuying all new components will cost you a fortune. I would recommend buying a used tower or rid, then upgrading the components to meet your needs.


And right off the start, we can tell who knows 0 about computers.

That advice works better towards someone building an AR-15.

But PCPARTPICKER is A+, Newegg always has great deals, you could even goto tigerdirect, and find a almost completed kit with what youd like, and then finish it off, and know itll all be compatible.

Dont mess with mac, or hackintosh, theyre both useless. I guess theres some software on OSX, but if youre wanting to do any gaming, just avoid it.

you can get way with around $700. Try an i5, 8gb ram, and a mid tier graphics card just to get started. Its easy to get sucked in real fucking deep, and next thing you know, youre running 3 graphics cards, 32 gb of RAM, and several thousand in debt
May 2 2016 1:05AM
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ICary
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Has anyone built a "Hackintosh" I can't stand PCs, just personal. Love my iMac. Would love love love a Mac Pro, but feel I could build a Mac Pro, for so much cheaper.
May 2 2016 2:09AM
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Negromancer
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ICaryHas anyone built a "Hackintosh" I can't stand PCs, just personal. Love my iMac. Would love love love a Mac Pro, but feel I could build a Mac Pro, for so much cheaper.


The actual process of building a Hackintosh is no different to a normal PC there's just a more hoops to jump through when you setup the UEFI and OS installation.

There's also various incompatibilities and hiccups like USB Type 3.1 and Type C will not work because the latest chipset is not fully compatible with OS X (it mostly works though), AMD graphics cards aren't 100% compatible either, and NVMe SSDs will not work (probably won't matter).

This website is helpful: http://www.tonymacx86.com/
May 2 2016 3:55AM
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First time PC builders should not start with a hackintosh unless they have a friend who has built a computer before and has a serrious grasp on what they are doing. This website is an amazing resource and will help a lot with the confusing process of picking you're parts. Also micro atx is so hot right now.




http://www.logicalincrements.com
May 2 2016 9:14AM
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fortyvalve
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DJtearegasive built a couple. this was my most recent one http://www.overclock.net/t/1394743/build-log-sw1ft-done


So do you just have some fuck you money lying around to where you can just decide to drop 10k on a PC build? I don't mean any disrespect but I legitimately can't fathom spending that much money on a PC.
May 2 2016 10:26AM
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elcornholio
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Not really that hard. It's pretty much just legos for adults.
May 2 2016 10:32AM
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Slush
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Building is pretty easy, picking components is tricky
May 2 2016 11:46AM
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judmaster77
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When your looking at parts use this site https://pcpartpicker.com so that you are sure they are compatible if your thinking about doing a hackintosh check out http://tonymacx86.com
May 2 2016 3:19PM
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mike759
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7springsprodCurrently looking like this as a part list.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3FMsbv


Thoughts guys?


If you're only loading the OS and a few applications onto the SSD, then you won't need anything that big
Also, the CPU usually comes with a fan so unless you're going to overclock, you probably don't need a separate fan
May 2 2016 8:43PM
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mike759
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sorry for double post
Don't do hackintosh, it will limit the what you can run on the PC
May 2 2016 8:45PM
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Negromancer
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mike759If you're only loading the OS and a few applications onto the SSD, then you won't need anything that big
Also, the CPU usually comes with a fan so unless you're going to overclock, you probably don't need a separate fan


OP is said he is going to be editing so I don't think he'd want to skimp on space.
240GB is the smallest SSD I would buy, it's easy to go through so much space especially if you've got a lot of games, a large collection of ultra HD 4K 10 on 1 gangbang bukkake porno, and raw video files for editing.

mike759sorry for double post
Don't do hackintosh, it will limit the what you can run on the PC


Generally with Hackintosh you put both Windows and OSX on the system so not being able to run programs shouldn't be a problem because you can just swap over to Windows/Linux.
May 2 2016 10:46PM
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mike759
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NegromancerOP is said he is going to be editing so I don't think he'd want to skimp on space.
240GB is the smallest SSD I would buy, it's easy to go through so much space especially if you've got a lot of games, a large collection of ultra HD 4K 10 on 1 gangbang bukkake porno, and raw video files for editing.



Generally with Hackintosh you put both Windows and OSX on the system so not being able to run programs shouldn't be a problem because you can just swap over to Windows/Linux.


In his parts list he also had a 2 TB HDD, so I assumed the SSD was only for the OS, and I don't really know much about hackintosh, so you're probably right about that
May 3 2016 12:03AM
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ICary
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If the Hackintosh was going to be built for strictly Video Editing, using programs like Premier, AE, Avid, da Vinci, and some others. Would it limit my work load still. From my research the only issues that seem to pop up are Mac updates, thunderbolt, some USB 3.1 stuff, and something else I can't remember.
May 3 2016 1:05AM
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Lonely
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It's easier to build one than you might think. A lot of people think it takes some sort of crazy skill but there are lots of different resources (linustechtips, pcpartpicker, youtube). You can effectively teach yourself and let me tell ya, nothing feels better than starting up rocketleague for the first time on a computer you built by yourself.

You also gain a better understanding about how computer stuff works and usually can build a comprobable tower to a prebuilt for 2/3 of the price or less.
May 3 2016 7:31AM
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7springsprod
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mike759sorry for double post
Don't do hackintosh, it will limit the what you can run on the PC


I've been told that the power source I chose was overkill for the wattage this rig will be putting out although I've been told having a better power source can make the system overall quieter.
One of my biggest fears is that the thing will overheat. I know the CPU comes with one but I have this urge to put an aftermarket fan on.
May 3 2016 10:08AM
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Negromancer
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7springsprodI've been told that the power source I chose was overkill for the wattage this rig will be putting out although I've been told having a better power source can make the system overall quieter.
One of my biggest fears is that the thing will overheat. I know the CPU comes with one but I have this urge to put an aftermarket fan on.


No the PSU (power supply unit) is not overkill for this build. Sure you could go down to 500W/550W PSU but then you eliminate headroom for future upgrades. Generally 600 - 750W is the sweet spot for a middle of the range single GPU gaming/editing build.

Better PSU's are quieter because they use better fans, produce less heat (so fan spins at lower RPM), and some of them won't even turn the fan on unless they're under heavy load. The PSU you chose is fine, it has good reviews and EVGA is an excellent brand.

Also as long as you install everything properly and use a good case nothing will overheat. I've used the Cooler Master Hyper 212 in a lot of builds and they're great for the price, easy to install (just follow the instruction booklet it is good and there are lots of Youtube videos to help).

Also how much editing are you planning on doing and are you planning to overclock?
If you're not going to be doing much editing or rendering then you could drop down to an i5 6600K and save some money (or use that money to buy a better graphics card).
If you're not going to overclock either then you can get a non-K CPU and a H170 chipset motherboard (which is cheaper than a Z170 board).
May 3 2016 5:55PM
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DirtYStylE
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urbanjibAnd right off the start, we can tell who knows 0 about computers.

That advice works better towards someone building an AR-15.

But PCPARTPICKER is A+, Newegg always has great deals, you could even goto tigerdirect, and find a almost completed kit with what youd like, and then finish it off, and know itll all be compatible.

Dont mess with mac, or hackintosh, theyre both useless. I guess theres some software on OSX, but if youre wanting to do any gaming, just avoid it.

you can get way with around $700. Try an i5, 8gb ram, and a mid tier graphics card just to get started. Its easy to get sucked in real fucking deep, and next thing you know, youre running 3 graphics cards, 32 gb of RAM, and several thousand in debt


You got me. I know 0 about computers. What's the internet???? Dur...

For real tho.. This all is just a bunch a jib jab to me.

Quick Specs:
i5 4th gen @ 3.8ghz
GTX 780 3GB
2x4Gb ram
Z97 Mobo
32gb M.2 SSD
1tb hdd
Windows 10 Home - Key on Tower for Win 7 Home
AIO water cooler

What I do know is I can buy that with a mouse, keyboard, monitor, and all the cables installed. Once you buy it, you plug it in and turn it on. You don't have to wait months researching and ordering parts. You take a look at the list, order what needs to be replaced(I had my tech savvy friend do this for me). Boom! One week and you have what you want for a fraction of the cost. Also, people can be desperate for money at certain times. So you can get some killer deals, while helping someone in need. Yes I did say fortune for new parts because some of these computers cost 3 months rent...
May 4 2016 1:06AM
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Lonely
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DirtYStylEYou got me. I know 0 about computers. What's the internet???? Dur...

For real tho.. This all is just a bunch a jib jab to me.

Quick Specs:
i5 4th gen @ 3.8ghz
GTX 780 3GB
2x4Gb ram
Z97 Mobo
32gb M.2 SSD
1tb hdd
Windows 10 Home - Key on Tower for Win 7 Home
AIO water cooler

What I do know is I can buy that with a mouse, keyboard, monitor, and all the cables installed. Once you buy it, you plug it in and turn it on. You don't have to wait months researching and ordering parts. You take a look at the list, order what needs to be replaced(I had my tech savvy friend do this for me). Boom! One week and you have what you want for a fraction of the cost. Also, people can be desperate for money at certain times. So you can get some killer deals, while helping someone in need. Yes I did say fortune for new parts because some of these computers cost 3 months rent...

Okay what? You can research the parts and order them in probably two weeks if you have no idea about building, and less than one week if you do.

And guess what the beauty of building your own is? When it breaks instead of worrying about having your friend or geek squad or something get you the right part at potentially more cost, you'll have the knowledge to replace it yourself and also upgrade.

Prebuilts are more expensive 75% of the time.
But idk I don't know what you're for or against but you're definetly wrong in some areas.
May 4 2016 7:37AM
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7springsprod
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DonaldTrumpNo the PSU (power supply unit) is not overkill for this build. Sure you could go down to 500W/550W PSU but then you eliminate headroom for future upgrades. Generally 600 - 750W is the sweet spot for a middle of the range single GPU gaming/editing build.

Better PSU's are quieter because they use better fans, produce less heat (so fan spins at lower RPM), and some of them won't even turn the fan on unless they're under heavy load. The PSU you chose is fine, it has good reviews and EVGA is an excellent brand.

Also as long as you install everything properly and use a good case nothing will overheat. I've used the Cooler Master Hyper 212 in a lot of builds and they're great for the price, easy to install (just follow the instruction booklet it is good and there are lots of Youtube videos to help).

Also how much editing are you planning on doing and are you planning to overclock?
If you're not going to be doing much editing or rendering then you could drop down to an i5 6600K and save some money (or use that money to buy a better graphics card).
If you're not going to overclock either then you can get a non-K CPU and a H170 chipset motherboard (which is cheaper than a Z170 board).


Gotcha, I don't really plan on overclocking with it. I'll be doing. I want something that renders efficiently. What's the difference between a H170 and Z170 mobo?
May 4 2016 3:01PM
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7springsprod
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DonaldTrumpNo the PSU (power supply unit) is not overkill for this build. Sure you could go down to 500W/550W PSU but then you eliminate headroom for future upgrades. Generally 600 - 750W is the sweet spot for a middle of the range single GPU gaming/editing build.

Better PSU's are quieter because they use better fans, produce less heat (so fan spins at lower RPM), and some of them won't even turn the fan on unless they're under heavy load. The PSU you chose is fine, it has good reviews and EVGA is an excellent brand.

Also as long as you install everything properly and use a good case nothing will overheat. I've used the Cooler Master Hyper 212 in a lot of builds and they're great for the price, easy to install (just follow the instruction booklet it is good and there are lots of Youtube videos to help).

Also how much editing are you planning on doing and are you planning to overclock?
If you're not going to be doing much editing or rendering then you could drop down to an i5 6600K and save some money (or use that money to buy a better graphics card).
If you're not going to overclock either then you can get a non-K CPU and a H170 chipset motherboard (which is cheaper than a Z170 board).


Gotcha, I don't really plan on overclocking with it. I'll be doing. I want something that renders efficiently. What's the difference between a H170 and Z170 mobo?
May 4 2016 3:01PM
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7springsprod
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DonaldTrumpNo the PSU (power supply unit) is not overkill for this build. Sure you could go down to 500W/550W PSU but then you eliminate headroom for future upgrades. Generally 600 - 750W is the sweet spot for a middle of the range single GPU gaming/editing build.

Better PSU's are quieter because they use better fans, produce less heat (so fan spins at lower RPM), and some of them won't even turn the fan on unless they're under heavy load. The PSU you chose is fine, it has good reviews and EVGA is an excellent brand.

Also as long as you install everything properly and use a good case nothing will overheat. I've used the Cooler Master Hyper 212 in a lot of builds and they're great for the price, easy to install (just follow the instruction booklet it is good and there are lots of Youtube videos to help).

Also how much editing are you planning on doing and are you planning to overclock?
If you're not going to be doing much editing or rendering then you could drop down to an i5 6600K and save some money (or use that money to buy a better graphics card).
If you're not going to overclock either then you can get a non-K CPU and a H170 chipset motherboard (which is cheaper than a Z170 board).


Gotcha, I don't really plan on overclocking with it. I'll be doing. I want something that renders efficiently. What's the difference between a H170 and Z170 mobo?
May 4 2016 3:01PM
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Negromancer
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7springsprodGotcha, I don't really plan on overclocking with it. I'll be doing. I want something that renders efficiently. What's the difference between a H170 and Z170 mobo?


If you want something to render fast then you'll want to stick to an i7 instead of an i5.

Main difference between Z170 and H170 is you cannot overclock on a H170 chipset.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1151

If you don't plan on overclocking you can switch to a H170 motherboard and a non-K version i7 6700 like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xyDpxr
May 4 2016 5:26PM
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