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What is actual GOOD style

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Rice
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So obviously style is more of a personal opinion but honestly I think it could easily be broken down into two areas:

So firstly the trick.

The inrun to the feature they are hitting. A nice carved take off. They seem super comfortable approaching the feature.

The actual trick. Everyone seems to hate triples and prefers smaller flips and spins because it is more 'stylish'. So what does this actually mean? Probably just less meat hucking, and a more slower rotation?

The uniqueness of the trick. This explains why Vincent Gagnier is doing well in comps because of his tricks which are unique but technically difficult. However, he is still spinning past 10s. Apart from the funky flips and axis, grabs. Doing grabs that are not common seem to be considered more 'stylish' such as a venom or seatbelt. Are they more stylish because they are difficult? Or because they look 'better'.

So can more spins still equal a stylish trick?

And finally the landing. Seems to me, if you don't land with your skis close together it's gonna be considered not stylish, even if you stomp it. Hence the majority of comp skiers not being 'stylish' due to their wider stance when they land.

Secondly, the clothing they wear. Skiing seems to be turning into a fashion show with a large bandwagon effect.

Everyone seems to hate Nick Goepper because of his style, but it's most likely because of the clothes he wears, instead of the baggy look. And since a few dislike him, others are following suit. Nick along with other comp skiers are obviously very comfortable with their bag of tricks, so why are they being hated on for having 'bad style'. Is there a simple reason? Is it because of their personality and their public image?


And then you have the skinny pants like Khai and Max Hill, who people believe have good style despite wearing tighter clothes.

On the opposite you have Henrick, who is seen to be one of the more stylish skiers out there. Is it really because of the tricks he does like the nose butter 18? Or the clothes he wear? His personality? Or a combination of both.

I've made a few generalisations but I honestly think I've summarised what style is.

What are your opinions NS?
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Apr 24 2016 10:18PM
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BedBugDoug
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Edollo is perfect style
Apr 24 2016 10:27PM
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KneeDrop
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RiceSkiing seems to be turning into a fashion show with a large bandwagon effect.


yeah this is definitely new
Apr 24 2016 10:39PM
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John18_6
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@m1sta_mango
Apr 24 2016 10:39PM
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Tanner-D
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Didn't read. This conversation has been had many times on NS.
Apr 24 2016 10:49PM
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CatBoy
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it's easier to divide by zero than define style objectively.. Just the concept of skiing (except for transportation use) is an anomaly in itself, but still somehow amazing.
Apr 24 2016 11:51PM
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270on420out
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CARNEY
Apr 24 2016 11:52PM
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AGOF
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Good style is:

Subjective
In the eye of the beholder
Apr 24 2016 11:54PM
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AndrewGravesSV
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It's all about looking supremely comfortable and making it look easy in my eyes. Its gotta be controlled in every aspect so it all looks fluid, and that the skier has complete control over every part of the trick, whether it be their arms, edge control, grab, or landing. They should just look at ease. This is to be said that every style is unique and uniqueness is a big part of style. Flailing is never going to look cool though
Apr 25 2016 12:04AM
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dyer
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style is personal, it is what you find comfortable and cool looking. For some its tall ts and others its hella afterbangs, but its different for everyone.
Apr 25 2016 12:33AM
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e.littt
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Good style is smooth, (seemingly) effortless, and clean skiing. I don't care what you wear, how much you spin, or the difficulty of the tricks. As long as it's clean and fun to watch.
Apr 25 2016 12:44AM
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Emma_Watson
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didn't read

but style is subjective.

if it weren't skiing would be boring and aerials
Apr 25 2016 1:02AM
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S.J.W
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whatever circle jerk NS is frothing on
Apr 25 2016 3:35AM
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-Dan
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The only consistency in good style is a clean landing everything else is completly subjective. Really though that's still just my opinion, maybe someone out there has sloppy landing and someone else thinks that's dope.

Semi related: The worst rhetoric on the site is style vs tech. They are not mutually exclusive.
Apr 25 2016 5:02AM
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ArseneFox
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I don't like to judge style based on skiing in the park alone, I like to judge style based on how someone skis over slushy mogul'ish off-piste terrain. What these guys in the park are doing is mostly posturing.

I like pep's style in this video. Look at how smooth he goes over such uneven terrain.


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/744169/One-run-with-Pep


Quiete different than pep's style but also very nice, look at how playfully yet smooth henrik races off-piste.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/675059/Henrik-Harlaut-Mammoth-Dec-4
Apr 25 2016 6:50AM
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ascent_studios
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THEDIRTYBUBBLEJAKE


CARNEY


Amen
Apr 25 2016 7:27AM
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Rennis_Deynolds
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lol fuck this thread who has time to read all that
Apr 25 2016 7:44AM
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The_RaginAsian
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Dennis_Reynoldslol fuck this thread who has time to read all that


tru
Apr 25 2016 10:38AM
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KneeDrop
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Dennis_Reynoldslol fuck this thread who has time to read all that


If you don't have time for this one, recall any of the other 100+ 'what is style' threads...
respond in kind
Apr 25 2016 11:02AM
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fries
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Keegan Kilbride.
Apr 25 2016 12:42PM
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zakattack66
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Antti Olilia is style.
Apr 25 2016 12:44PM
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saskskier
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/thread
Apr 25 2016 1:01PM
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DASZ.mp4
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With jump tricks there are somethings that show style. Rotations can work on 3 axis and when those axis are independent of each other, the trick looks like an aerial and robotic. For example, aerialists kinda do backflips while spinning at the same time. But a real steezy flat 5 looks like one fluid motion where you backflip kinda to the side and follow through on the last ~90 of rotation. Also a misty 7 isn't just a frontflip with a 360. It is more of throwing a flip down and to the side and spinning more towards the end of the trick when you are flipping less and are practically almost back upright. You aren't completely flipping and spinning the entire time. It's more of a FLIP/spin transitioning to a SPIN/flip. This makes it look like one fluid motion.

That's why Jossi wells stands out over Gus kenworthy in xgames. His flips are more of a single fluid motion that changes direction slowly. Not some kind of flip with an unrelated spin going on.

Does anyone understand what I'm getting at?
Apr 25 2016 1:43PM
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broto
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style, to me, must be developed over time, and people with more style look very comfortable and confident when doing tricks. they look like they actually would know how to ski anywhere on the mountain, and the skis are just an extension of the body to them. it's making things look easy and natural, and not looking like you're trying to force your body to land in some preconceived "stylish" rideout
Apr 25 2016 1:59PM
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DayMan
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BROGAN
Apr 25 2016 2:41PM
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Thegratefulskier
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Style died a while ago
Apr 25 2016 5:25PM
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Lucas
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Edgy^
Apr 25 2016 8:10PM
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CHORIZO
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the more they look like a neo nazi the better
Apr 25 2016 8:57PM
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lurking
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Fucking christ it must be summer
Apr 25 2016 11:13PM
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CrotchKiller
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The referenced post has been removed.


Naa. That's a crock of shit
Apr 25 2016 11:16PM
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johnk
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Tanner-DDidn't read. This conversation has been had many times on NS.


What happened to having civil conversations with whoever wants? seems to me like you're just trying to act cool
Apr 26 2016 1:03PM
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hot.pocket
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johnkWhat happened to having civil conversations with whoever wants? seems to me like you're just trying to act cool


He's cool because he's right.
Apr 26 2016 4:43PM
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Rice
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hot.pocketHe's cool because he's right.


I couldn't find any older threads that addressed 'style' directly. Most were just certain aspects like "Do skis change your style".

I thought it would be interesting to see if we addressed style as a whole.
Apr 26 2016 6:08PM
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a_burger
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the first post pretty much said all that needed to be said anyways
Apr 26 2016 6:35PM
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hot.pocket
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RiceI couldn't find any older threads that addressed 'style' directly.


Apr 26 2016 6:44PM
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doot
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everybody cares about style too much

of course i say this as a man with no style
Apr 26 2016 8:21PM
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broto
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hot.pocket


damn look at that pow in the background
Apr 26 2016 8:26PM
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Smuffy
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RedPandaBROGAN


these kids dont know

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/755361/JON-BROGAN-TRANSFIXED-EDIT
Apr 26 2016 8:51PM
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DayMan
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^^^ Gives me a boner every time

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/756008/JON-BROGAN-TEASE-EDIT
Apr 26 2016 9:21PM
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tateum_cava
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Ski fast
Apr 26 2016 10:02PM
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Smuffy
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RedPanda^^^ Gives me a boner every time


"no one can touch my lip 2s"
Apr 27 2016 5:21PM
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