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How do you guys feel about adjustable mount point bindings?

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DropsFlint
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Like the Marker Squire Schizzos for example.
Mar 17 2016 3:28AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Heavy.
Too much stuff to break.
Gimmick.
Mar 17 2016 8:06AM
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skidemon22
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Caucasian_AsianHeavy.
Too much stuff to break.
Gimmick.


This.

Seriously, there is no reason to have to move bindings around. I say pick a spot, and stick to it
Mar 17 2016 8:57AM
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SofaKingSick
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Caucasian_AsianHeavy.
Too much stuff to break.
Gimmick.


skidemon22This.

Seriously, there is no reason to have to move bindings around. I say pick a spot, and stick to it


exactly. not worth it. and worrying about a couple centimeters is stupid
Mar 17 2016 10:56AM
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Bogs
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Titsandwich11worrying about a couple centimeters is stupid


Not necessarily, depends on the ski and the skier.

But you should be able to know close enough to where you want to mount it to not need an adjustable binding.
Mar 17 2016 7:31PM
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DropsFlint
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Titsandwich11exactly. not worth it. and worrying about a couple centimeters is stupid


I feel like 6 centimeters is not really negligible, and the squire schizos are pretty light and have lasted me all season. That said, it's only been one season so I can't speak to their durability just yet. It's been pretty nice being able to set them center for park and factory for pow. Additionally, it's been nice being able to experiment with different settings to get a feel for what differences in mount point mean for my skiing.
Mar 17 2016 7:39PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Caucasian_AsianHeavy.
Too much stuff to break.
Gimmick.


QFE.
Mar 17 2016 8:14PM
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GregFlik
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I'll say this about them as an owner of a set of Jester Schizos, I do not regret the purchase, but I wouldn't do it again.

I mounted them on a pair of SFB's with the +3cm mark of the binding being at true center, and then the -3cm mark of the binding being a total of -6cm from true center.

I only got them since it was a good deal and these skis were my daily driver. I just loved going switch, hitting boxes and goofing around with them, and then being able to use a quarter to make them into an all mountain slasher and pow ripper with a turn of a dial made me wet, so yea.
Mar 17 2016 9:52PM
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SofaKingSick
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BogsNot necessarily, depends on the ski and the skier.

But you should be able to know close enough to where you want to mount it to not need an adjustable binding.


DropsFlintI feel like 6 centimeters is not really negligible, and the squire schizos are pretty light and have lasted me all season. That said, it's only been one season so I can't speak to their durability just yet. It's been pretty nice being able to set them center for park and factory for pow. Additionally, it's been nice being able to experiment with different settings to get a feel for what differences in mount point mean for my skiing.


you guys have fair points. im just saying that i don't think a few CMs is worth more parts added to the binding. more weight and more shit to break is the last thing ski bindings need
Mar 18 2016 11:25AM
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-WZ-
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stoked on my griffon demos on rock skis only because it makes it a lot easier to hit my summer setup with friend as a lot of them leave their shit up at condos over the summer. other than that (and for their intended use as demos) I don't understand the point of them really..
Mar 18 2016 3:57PM
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razors-chaz
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GregFlikI'll say this about them as an owner of a set of Jester Schizos, I do not regret the purchase, but I wouldn't do it again.

I mounted them on a pair of SFB's with the +3cm mark of the binding being at true center, and then the -3cm mark of the binding being a total of -6cm from true center.

I only got them since it was a good deal and these skis were my daily driver. I just loved going switch, hitting boxes and goofing around with them, and then being able to use a quarter to make them into an all mountain slasher and pow ripper with a turn of a dial made me wet, so yea.


I have a similar set up to this. I have griffon schizos on blends and the ability to go from symmetric centre to -6 (which is still in front of the sidecut centre) is nice. Its good to be able to ride outside the park on some slack-country in the morning at -6 and then jump into the park at 0 for more tail. Is the extra weight worth this convenience? possibly, but not by much.
Mar 21 2016 9:54AM
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Tappie
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I have been riding Griffon schizo's for a few years now, and they have actually held up a lot better than expected. The toe pieces have a lot of wiggle in them now, but the schizo system still works. They pulled out once, but that was most likely due to the skis they were mounted on.

I would probably not but them again though.
-they are more expensive
-heavier
-I never really felt the need to adjust my binding location, I think -2cm or something is fine for most skis, also in some pow(assuming it is a twintip, and depending on the ski offcourse)
- if you want to really rip the park and pow/ allmountain, I think you should have 2 pairs of ski's anyways.
Mar 21 2016 12:09PM
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oxiclean
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HEAVY
Mar 22 2016 11:43AM
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The.Fish
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I have squire schizos and my feet are still growing so its nice to have the long toe plate for when i get new boots.
Mar 22 2016 11:59AM
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SofaKingSick
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The.FishI have squire schizos and my feet are still growing so its nice to have the long toe plate for when i get new boots.


that's a very legit reason, gotta say
Mar 22 2016 1:59PM
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The.Fish
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Titsandwich11that's a very legit reason, gotta say


I spent an extra $20 on the schizos. Thats half of what my shop charges for a remount.
Mar 22 2016 2:57PM
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SofaKingSick
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The.FishI spent an extra $20 on the schizos. Thats half of what my shop charges for a remount.


yeah plus you don't have a new set of holes in your skis, that way
Mar 22 2016 3:38PM
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Laurent.
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Titsandwich11yeah plus you don't have a new set of holes in your skis, that way


Just use it as an excuse to get new skis.
Mar 22 2016 4:17PM
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profa_212
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I have had experience with the griffon schizo, overall not bad.

I bought them and put them on my all mountain ski for the normal reason, i wanted to change mount points. I moved them maybe a total of 3 times. I moved them and i found the mount position that I loved and never touched them again. I wouldn't really say they worked to well for why I bought them.

BUT. They worked great for a binding. Never had any durability issues and they weight is honestly quite negligible if you are a strong skier. Do some squats and you wont realize they are any different.

Personally I would just go for a regular binding. But if you don't know the mount position you want they could help you explore different mounts without wasting a re-mount.
Mar 22 2016 11:52PM
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