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EmperorKuzcoTom Brady MVP of life
EmperorKuzcoTom Brady MVP of life
eheathHe's got some stiff competition this year. Not playing the first 4 games hurts him.
EmperorKuzcoTom Brady only cares about Super Bowl mvps anyway. I don't know how an equipment violation (not implying there even was one) and an unprecedented 4 game suspension would result in hurting his MVP stock but that's just me
eheathHe played less games, 4 games where his performance is unknown. Thats what hurts him, he has 10 less TDs than the leader right now (matt ryan) and he could've had 38-40 tds if he actually played, but he was suspended so that hurts him. Its the unknown that will lose brady the MVP this year, if he loses.
EmperorKuzcoIf it's all about numbers then how come David Johnson isn't even being talked about? Tom Brady took a team that was struggling thoroughly on defense in the pats and took control of the offense and went 11-1 and had the best td int ratio of any qb ever. But yeah let's give it to the NFC south (which is consistently one of the worst divisions in the nfl) qb who has a pretty poor defense barring Vic Beasley and went 11-5
eheathYou're clearly a TB12 fan, thats fine.
Brady is still in the running. DJ isnt getting a nod cause his team sucks, which is just how it goes. A MVP brings their team up, in this case maybe Bill Belichick should win MVP.
There is no doubt TB12 is top 3 for MVP, but I dont think he will win because of many factors, one being he played 4 less games, which regardless if it was "fair" doesnt matter. You NE fans need to realize that it doesnt matter if it was fair, it happened, get over it.
If you wanna talk about a guy bringing a team back, its Rodgers not Brady. The Pats never struggled, theyre the best fucking team in the NFL dude.
EmperorKuzcoI'm a big matty ice guy as well so it's not even like I'm that biased. Agreed with Rodgers tho dude has been fire last 2 months. Will refuse to concede the fair card when the NFL shows some level of parity and punishes players and teams equally and stops engaging in witch hunts to bring down the greatest sports team, player, and organization in history
eheathYeah but still, it doesn't matter. Even if its the most unfair punishment, he still didn't play 4 games, the reason doesn't matter, thats not factored into the MVP. Brady doesn't win an MVP because he had an unfair suspension and did get the chance to really prove his value. The Pats won 3 games without him, they then only lost to seattle in what would be considered a classic "fluke" nfl game that happens to every team.
The pats don't "need" brady lets be honest here... TB12 adds to their team sure and if they win the superbowl it will be because of him, but where would the pats be without blount? gronk?(maybe not this year) or edelman? You think brady is the only one who can pass to these guys? No, but he does do a great job of it and the defense helped too, which was #8 overall this year BTW. Brady didn't do what Ryan or Rodgers did, which is why he wont win.
EmperorKuzcoEdelman, Blount and even Gronk are 1000x more replaceable than the golden god tb12
eheathYou could replace TB12 with any other top 12 QB and they'd still win the superbowl.
Belichick is the golden god here, lets just be honest.
eheathYeah but still, it doesn't matter. Even if its the most unfair punishment, he still didn't play 4 games, the reason doesn't matter, thats not factored into the MVP. Brady doesn't win an MVP because he had an unfair suspension and did get the chance to really prove his value. The Pats won 3 games without him, they then only lost to seattle in what would be considered a classic "fluke" nfl game that happens to every team.
The pats don't "need" brady lets be honest here... TB12 adds to their team sure and if they win the superbowl it will be because of him, but where would the pats be without blount? gronk?(maybe not this year) or edelman? You think brady is the only one who can pass to these guys? No, but he does do a great job of it and the defense helped too, which was #8 overall this year BTW. Brady didn't do what Ryan or Rodgers did, which is why he wont win.
YoungWookieeThe Seahawks vs patriots wasn't a "fluke" we would have beat them in the super bowl to if it wasn't for the interception that ended the game. The patriots aren't immortal stop thinking that.
eheathI'm talking about this year, the pats lost to seattle, that was the fluke... i cant tell if youre just trolling, maybe you are.
DeebieSkeebieswont blame it on the refs because 26-6 means the lions did not want to win but seeing Stafford get picked up by his legs and slammed on his head well after the whistle blew with no flag definitely says something is up.
oh well. fuck Detroit, fuck the shithawks, and I hope dallas bends you guys over and fucks you dry in the ass.
im gonna go ski some pow.
eheathI mean, the lions got their asses handed to them, a couple penalties wouldn't change anything. They were clearly not ready for a good team, just like when they played the packers.
SconnieAaron Rodgers is the G.O.A.T
The defense will find a way to fuck it up, but Rodgers is unreal.
.MASSHOLE.Mr. Brady would like a word.
Sconnie2nd best doesn't deserve a word.
Sconnie2nd best doesn't deserve a word.
Sconnie2nd best doesn't deserve a word.
Daphsteelers look gooooood
JayRichFroze my ass off at Heinz today, and it was totally worth it! Bell and Brown rolling like they are is so comforting.
DaphYou really must be delusional if you thing Rodgers is better than Brady...
EmperorKuzcoRings bro
.MASSHOLE.Remind me, what is Rodgers record in the playoffs? How many rings does he have?
Daphyou were there? jealous! looked cold but so worth it, that was pure domination. I'm really liking how we're looking right now, bring on the chiefs!
SconnieYou really must be delusional if you think Brady is better than Rodgers...
The Packers defense is the reason Rodgers doesn't have 4 rings. He sets up the victories, and the defense blows it for him.
Look it up yourself, you bum. Rodgers can escape pressure and zip the ball 40 yards into triple coverage on the run. Brady can't do shit when he is about to get sacked.
SconnieThe Packers defense is the reason Rodgers doesn't have 4 rings. He sets up the victories, and the defense blows it for him.
Look it up yourself, you bum./QUOTE]
Here are the defensive stats for the past 5 years ranked by Pts/G
Stats go:
Yards
Yards/G
Pass
PYrds/G
Rush
RYrds/G
Pts
Pts/G
2016
1
New England
5223
326.4
3806
237.9
1417
88.6
250
15.6
21
Green Bay
5823
363.9
4308
269.3
1515
94.7
388
24.3
2015
10
New England
5431
339.4
3851
240.7
1580
98.8
315
19.7
12
Green Bay
5547
346.7
3642
227.6
1905
119.1
323
20.2
2014
8
New England
5506
344.1
3837
239.8
1669
104.3
313
19.6
13
Green Bay
5542
346.4
3623
226.4
1919
119.9
348
21.8
2013:
10
New England
5969
373.1
3824
239.0
2145
134.1
338
21.1
24
Green Bay
5956
372.3
3956
247.3
2000
125.0
428
26.8
2012:
9
New England
5972
373.3
4342
271.4
1630
101.9
331
20.7
11
Green Bay
5388
336.8
3492
218.3
1896
118.5
336
21.0
2011:
15
New England
6577
411.1
4703
293.9
1874
117.1
342
21.4
19
Green Bay
6585
411.6
4796
299.8
1789
111.8
359
22.4
2010
2
Green Bay
4945
309.1
3107
194.2
1838
114.9
240
15.0
8
New England
5864
366.5
4136
258.5
1728
108.0
313
19.6
So, there you go. I see two years, 2013 and this season, where there are significant gaps where the Patriots are better than the Packers.
This will probably come out dilapidated but w/e[/QUOTE]
Yah was just about to pull this shit up. Not to mention the amount of time Rodgers gets on each pass, the amount of luck (he's completed 3/5 hail Marie's in the past two seasons), and depth on offense compared to Pats.
SconnieYou really must be delusional if you think Brady is better than Rodgers...
The Packers defense is the reason Rodgers doesn't have 4 rings. He sets up the victories, and the defense blows it for him.
Look it up yourself, you bum. Rodgers can escape pressure and zip the ball 40 yards into triple coverage on the run. Brady can't do shit when he is about to get sacked.
SconnieI have a good feeling about this one, boys.
Packers can get tricky when they play a team for the second time that beat them earlier.
.Hugo.Yesterdays falcons seahawks game was magical. I love it
Yung_JimmyHere's my picks
Wild Card: Texans over Raiders, Steelers over Dolphins, Seahawks over Lions, Packers over Giants.
Divisional: Patriots over Texans, Steelers over Chiefs, Falcons over Seahawks, Packers over Cowboys.
Conference Champs: Patriots over Steelers and Packers over Falcons
Super Bowl: Patriots over Packers
JayRichPretty disappointing playoffs as a whole besides two games (Pack/Boys and Steelers/Chiefs). Hoping that the Super Bowl is a high scoring shootout coming down to the wire. As much as I'd love to see Matty Ice get a ring, the Tom Brady vengeance tour is down right scary. I want the Falcons to win, but I think Brady and Hoganmania pull this one off. I think any football fan would love to see Goodell sweat it out handing Tommy the Lombardi. #FireGoodell
