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Gimbal Stabilizers

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MNSkiers
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Have been looking into getting one of these for a little bit now and wanted to know what others opinions are about them. Obviously if I purchase one it will be something like the DJI Ronin-M 3-Axis Handheld Gimbal our around that price.


Not a freefly or anything thats like 5k.
Anyways... Opinions? Recommendations?
Thanks boys
Mar 4 2016 12:32PM
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liamrashotte
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The ronin m is really fun to use for skiing but very annoying imo. You can't sit it down when you're on the lift unless you turn it off, so for skiing I don't really recommend it
Mar 4 2016 12:40PM
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Forcillo
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What are you using it for? I also wouldn't recommend it for skiing, glidecam is objectively better for that, but it's worth looking into if you're doing larger productions that aren't just ski edits.
Mar 4 2016 1:22PM
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winniecash
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ForcilloWhat are you using it for? I also wouldn't recommend it for skiing, glidecam is objectively better for that,


This, IMO opinion edits shot on gimbals look wierd, it just looks unnatrual, I would reccommed getting a good glidecam and just master using it. May took more time but the footage will look much better.
Mar 4 2016 7:08PM
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ascent_studios
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IMO glidcams feel more natural and connected. Gimbals feel mechanical and skiing is not mechanical
Mar 4 2016 7:56PM
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.HERO
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Does anybody have a ski edit in mind that uses a gimbal stabilizer to compare? I'm just curious as to how they compare
Mar 4 2016 11:38PM
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M.M
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I know the past 2 Simple edits have been filmed on some sort of gimbal just based of seeing him film, I like the look of his edits a lot.
Mar 5 2016 4:08AM
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M.M
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I know the past 2 Simple edits have been filmed on some sort of gimbal just based of seeing him film, I like the look of his edits a lot.
Mar 5 2016 4:09AM
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dan_swagner
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Glidecams are better for skiing. I own a glidecam and a ronin. Gimbals are good for slider type shots and more planned out shots for larger edits. They take more time to get the shot perfect with and will slow your shooting down a little. They also are terrible for followcams because the pan and tilt doesn't immediately follow and sometimes isn't fast enough to track a skier. I would use a glidecam for a fast follow cam and gimbal for slow moving tracking and slider or jib type shots. Gimbals are great for broll and non ski shoots
Mar 5 2016 5:47AM
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winniecash
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.HERODoes anybody have a ski edit in mind that uses a gimbal stabilizer to compare? I'm just curious as to how they compare


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/817638/RMR-Parks---Mike-Urich

Matt Stambaugh uses a gimbal for his edits.He does a pretty good job contolling it but even with his skills u can see how gimbals produce very robotic like footage. And as the previous guy said it is hard to track the skier with a gimbal on follow cams. U can see in the edit the skier just floats out of the shot some times and it takes the gimbal a couple seconds to react.
Mar 5 2016 8:45AM
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*SNO*
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I've used a gimbal (Ronin-M) to shoot everything since July. I really like it but it definitely takes a little while to get used to and figure what sort of settings you want to run it on.
I feel that since I got the Ronin im improving the composition etc of my shots and thinking about more complex shots whereas when I was using the glidecam I was just worrying about getting a basic shot that was stable.

Here's an example of something I shot using the Ronin.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/817642/Girls-Gone-Rad---Snozone-MK
Mar 5 2016 10:34AM
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.HERO
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pops.https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/817638/RMR-Parks---Mike-Urich

Matt Stambaugh uses a gimbal for his edits.He does a pretty good job contolling it but even with his skills u can see how gimbals produce very robotic like footage. And as the previous guy said it is hard to track the skier with a gimbal on follow cams. U can see in the edit the skier just floats out of the shot some times and it takes the gimbal a couple seconds to react.


Thanks!
Mar 5 2016 11:28AM
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MNSkiers
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pops.This, IMO opinion edits shot on gimbals look wierd, it just looks unnatrual


pops.https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/817638/RMR-Parks---Mike-Urich

Totally get what you're saying. When panning it looks very robotic not like a glide cam. Glidcams are more smooth and flow way better than those!
Mar 5 2016 2:22PM
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DANIELMORTENSEN
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pops.https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/817638/RMR-Parks---Mike-Urich

Matt Stambaugh uses a gimbal for his edits.He does a pretty good job contolling it but even with his skills u can see how gimbals produce very robotic like footage. And as the previous guy said it is hard to track the skier with a gimbal on follow cams. U can see in the edit the skier just floats out of the shot some times and it takes the gimbal a couple seconds to react.


Shots were super dope, but I can see that robotic feel. I would say glidecam.
Mar 9 2016 2:11PM
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Coalescent
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Thanks for sharing that edit. I just posted up another one with a movi m10. It's something that dialing in the gimbal will help with the robotic movements. I honestly haven't spend a lot of time tuning them other than the balance. I like the gimbal, because I use it in a lot of my other work, and don't want to waste money on a glide cam. Plus, when I glidecam, if you watch my footage, I can be totally sober and still make it look like I'm totally drunk.
Mar 9 2016 4:19PM
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ascent_studios
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Coming back to this thread, the SIMPLE. edits make me completely change my mind about glidecam vs gimbal

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/818514/SIMPLE--SOVEREIGN
Mar 9 2016 6:27PM
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MNSkiers
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ben_collinsComing back to this thread, the SIMPLE. edits make me completely change my mind about glidecam vs gimbal

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/818514/SIMPLE--SOVEREIGN

yeah I saw this. The motion in it is just phenomenal. It looks so insane
Mar 9 2016 7:54PM
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ascent_studios
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MNSkiersyeah I saw this. The motion in it is just phenomenal. It looks so insane


It looks so much more natural than other gimbal edits as well
Mar 9 2016 9:54PM
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MNSkiers
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ben_collinsIt looks so much more natural than other gimbal edits as well

wonder what he did different? Might have to message him
Mar 9 2016 11:08PM
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DANIELMORTENSEN
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ben_collinsIt looks so much more natural than other gimbal edits as well


That's why we like it, but getting shots like that with a gimbal I can picture being pretty hard.
Mar 9 2016 11:56PM
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MNSkiers
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DANIELMORTENSENThat's why we like it, but getting shots like that with a gimbal I can picture being pretty hard.

To be real I don't think so. You can get a thumb stick to control the cams movement up, down and side to side. Would probably want to get a monitor for it but you're already spending a decent amount so what's another $250 or so
Mar 10 2016 11:27AM
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JAHpow
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ben_collinsComing back to this thread, the SIMPLE. edits make me completely change my mind about glidecam vs gimbal

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/818514/SIMPLE--SOVEREIGN


That edit is bonkers

Also Downtofilm made a video that's stupid smooth as well.
Pretty sure this was with a Ronin.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/778438/Summer-Shred-with-Evan-McEachran
Mar 13 2016 1:38AM
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