are there any Americans who would actually consider leaving your country if he wins?
will anyone's life actually change or is everyone just complaining for no reason.
either way, sucks to suck. your field of candidates is pretty terrible.
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DingoSeanHe's going to get annihilated in the general though... So that wouldn't matter. He couldn't carry Ohio or Iowa in the primaries... he's going to need both to win, and he doesn't beat either democrat in those states. Better prepare for either America's Iron Lady, or America's "Pepe".
Crispy.No man I disliked Jeb more than I do Trump. Trump is so tempermental and has very little political experience. I think he could do okay if he has a super good cabinet but the likeliehood that happens is low. He's so irrational that it's only a matter of time before he seriously pisses another country off and boom WW3.
CampeadorI'm glad those CNN polls give you a sense of security, but they mean nothing. That old corrupt hag won't stand a chance once Trump levels his guns at her.
DingoSeanIt has nothing to do with CNN polls, guy. It has everything to do with the fact that Trump doesn't have enough share of the electorate in order to win what he'd need to win to beat any democrat.
Even if it was Kasich, Rubio or Cruz, they'd need to win a combination of all three major swing states in VA, FL, and Ohio, and THEN somehow pull off a win in a light blue state like Iowa or Nevada... He couldn't even beat Cruz in Iowa - which is already plenty Blue and hasn't gone to a republican president since 2004 - when Bush won it by .6%. Meanwhile, in Nevada, you'd have to somehow ignite enough Clive Bundies to overcome the highly liberal nature of both Reno and Vegas - which is where 75% of the state's population resides. New Hampshire and Colorado are firmly too liberal now to be considered swing states anymore.. PA and Wisconsin won't go red.
Trump has alienated too many of the people he'd need in order to carry a win in the states he'd ned to win. Chances are he doesn't even win Ohio against a Democrat.
CampeadorAgain, I hope you take comfort in your bogus predictions that are based off of nothing but a few wishful thinking liberal outlets.
This is not going to be like previous elections, all bets are off.
CampeadorWhich country exactly? He's the only candidate that wants to actually improve relations with Russia (a great idea), wipe out ISIS, block additional muslim terrorists from entering the country, block the illegal alien criminals at the southern border, go to war with the drug cartels and the immigrant gangs, protect the 2nd Amendment, put the US national interests first in trade deals, the list goes on.
The only country I can see posing any kind of problem is China, but they'll back down like everyone else. Any kind of tariff on their exported garbage will bring about an economic apocalypse for them, and they know it. How can you wipe out ISIS when it's an ideology not a country? And fighting a drug war will never work when there's always going to be demand for drugs here in the US.
So thinking rationally, putting emotions to the side, what part of Trump's plan for the US do you disagree with? It all seems pretty good to me.
CampeadorSo thinking rationally, putting emotions to the side, what part of Trump's plan for the US do you disagree with? It all seems pretty good to me.
DingoSeanWell, for starters... the 45 foot wall across the border that wouldn't do anything but cost America an assload of money and stick a big ol middle finger up at our 3rd largest trading partner, all while hurting american businesses, border landowners, and costing taxpayers an absolute fortune just for a symbol of security that doesn't work.
SourSteezleMexico will pay for the wall.
DingoSeanLol. Do you understand polarization in this country? Trump doesn't even have enough share of the GOP electorate currently. He's winning delegates, but he's not landsliding anything...
All bets are off in states like Florida, perhaps (as per-usual)... but you're delusional if you seriously think this is going to change the flow of the country just because one dude is loudmouthing himself into power.
DingoSeanLol. Do you understand polarization in this country? Trump doesn't even have enough share of the GOP electorate currently. He's winning delegates, but he's not landsliding anything...
All bets are off in states like Florida, perhaps (as per-usual)... but you're delusional if you seriously think this is going to change the flow of the country just because one dude is loudmouthing himself into power.
CampeadorAnd what exactly makes you such an expert? I know it's not a four-year degree in political science (or any other degree).
Based on your flawless, fatalistic analysis, why even bother have elections?
That empty suit Hussein Obama seemed to do a fine job loudmouthing himself into power. "Hope and change", right?
DingoSeanWell, for starters... the 45 foot wall across the border that wouldn't do anything but cost America an assload of money and stick a big ol middle finger up at our 3rd largest trading partner, all while hurting american businesses, border landowners, and costing taxpayers an absolute fortune just for a symbol of security that doesn't work.
DingoSeanYou don't have to be an expert to understand how simple things like the electoral collage work, bud. This isn't March Madness here. Trump isn't a 13 seed upsetting a 4. States aren't all toss-ups just because you want to believe people are insane enough to ride whatever hype train you're on.
Marketing hope and change isn't exactly what I'd call loudmouthing. Inciting violence and marginalizing entire people groups however, very much is.
As for hope and change - I'd say things have improved economically in this country quite a fucking bit since the crash of 07. I mean, sure you're likely to retort to that with Cruz style cherrypicked statistics, but in reality That's a mission accomplished as far as I'm concerned. Obama crushed it.
CampeadorIt's always amusing to see liberals worry about government spending.
You liberals don't seem to worry much about the cost of putting all those illegals on Obamacare.
You're good at being chock-full of predictions, but it's all pretty baseless.
As it is, sections of the border with walls are the most effective at stopping and deterring illegal crossings.
All I really want, is to enforce the same set of immigration laws that Mexico currently enforces.
CampeadorSo many contradictions, wasn't the "hype train" what got Obama elected over Hillary in 2008?
Let's see, still double the amount of people on food stamps and other forms of welfare, record high long-term unemployment and underemployment, doubled national debt, lowest labor participation rate in fifty years, record high numbers of people collecting SS disability, falling Real Median Household Income, what else am I missing?
Oh yes, but the stock market went up, that was wonderful. Obama printed and siphoned money to the investor class at Wall Street, those odious 1%ers you leftists have the nerve to complain about. Oh and the bogus U3 metric of unemployment is at what 5.5%? Well done.
Besides a few pockets, the economy has not improved at all in most parts of the country.
Kicking the can down the road is not "crushing it", if you were talking delusional before, take a look in the mirror there buddy.
DingoSeanOf course we worry about government spending... Everyone does. Yes - even liberals. Stupid things like spending as much as we do on military and corporate subsidies... or, you know.. in this case.. a proposed and useless wall that won't do anything.
You can't put illegals on Obamacare. They don't have social security numbers. You need one to sign up, bud. In any case, Obamacare isn't a great plan, but at least more people are insured. I'd much rather have a single payer system like we do for armed forces, police, fire, and everything else that we've successfully socialized, but it's a step in the right direction.
Illegal crossings are not the majority of ways that illegals get here though... and so you build a wall, then you're going to have border crossings by air and sea. You're not stopping illegal immigration man..
CampeadorSo illegals don't get Obamacare? That's news to me.
CampeadorSo illegals don't get Obamacare? That's news to me.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/08/senate-report-illegal-immigrants-benefited-from-up-to-750m-in-obamacare-subsidies.html
Perhaps they don't get de facto Obamacare right now, but that will definitely change should that old hag Hillary get elected:
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/821055/Clinton-Supports-Illegal-Immigrants-Getting-ObamaCare
CampeadorSo illegals don't get Obamacare? That's news to me.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/08/senate-report-illegal-immigrants-benefited-from-up-to-750m-in-obamacare-subsidies.html
Perhaps they don't get de facto Obamacare right now, but that will definitely change should that old hag Hillary get elected:
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/821055/Clinton-Supports-Illegal-Immigrants-Getting-ObamaCare
.MASSHOLE.God. i just hope Trump doesn't get elected. If it were Sanders vs. Trump I'd vote Sanders and hope my EU citizenship application gets approved.
BogsActs like he is knowledgable about the extremely complex history of Islam, and spits out a lot of rhetoric about why all muslims should be killed. Does the same with pretty much every topic, talking about why liberals are the worst and will ruin the country.
Doesn't even know you need a SS number to get Obamacare.
Excuse us for not taking anything you say about anything seriously.
CampeadorThere's no such thing as "EU citizenship", you apply for citizenship in a country in the EU.
I've got a better idea though, you could go live as an illegal in Australia, I'm sure SJW would help you out.
CampeadorI know a great deal more about the history of Islam than you'll ever know, and frankly, it's not all that complex.
Go find yourself a safe space.
CampeadorThere's no such thing as "EU citizenship", you apply for citizenship in a country in the EU.
I've got a better idea though, you could go live as an illegal in Australia, I'm sure SJW would help you out.
CampeadorI know a great deal more about the history of Islam than you'll ever know, and frankly, it's not all that complex.
Muslims belong in their own countries, where they can practice their retrograde religion as they see fit. Western civilization is antithetical to Islamic law and culture, Islam needs to be quarantined like a disease, and hopefully at some point it can be destroyed. It provides nothing to the world.
I have yet to fully understand what regressive leftists find so endearing about Islam.
And last I checked there weren't many liberal pajama boys serving in the armed forces.
Go find yourself a safe space.
.MASSHOLE.I'd apply for Latvian citizenship and could live anywhere in the EU. Forgive me for not being more specific and revealing more in depth information about my personal life.
My Canadian passport makes it a lot easier to get a visa.
I have options.
Better than the shit hole that is Chile or Spain.
Abu-BaghdadiThat seems like a solid idea. Come live in Australia Masshole. Australia is a lovely country. Sun, beaches, lil bit of snow. Solid economy. Seems like a great plan. Unlike that shit hole of Chile where I'm sure you really enjoy the subpar conditions
CampeadorLatvian citizenship? Hopefully one of your grandparents is of Latvian nationality, and even then it's a stretch. You could always go in as a migrant though!
What languages do you speak besides English? None? Well then you're useless.
Where in Europe would you go? Just out of my own curiosity, since Spain is off the list (quite dumb really, Spain is incredible).
.MASSHOLE.Grandfather was a Baltic German born in Riga as was my Grandmother.
French. German. English. Trilingual.
Germany, England, France, Austria, Poland. Latvia. I have options. It is amazing what German and Latvian ancestry can do when combined with French and German languages.
When you can trace your family name back to 1000 AD, you have some lineage, especially when you were former nobility.
CampeadorNot bad, you should be alright then. Good luck on getting your citizenship (I mean that sincerely). It'll be tough living in any of those countries where you don't speak the language, but if you can pull it off, I say go for it.
I actually have a strong feeling that after being in some of the those countries, you'll find yourself much more aligned with my way of thinking.
Abu-BaghdadiHmmm seeing how muslims actually live apart from the xenophobic propaganda you see on fox news. Yeah Masshole will definitely become a muslim hating idiot. I lived in a muslim majority community in Toronto for all year last year and I still think muslims are some of the best people I've ever met. Amount of times I was told to convert to Islam... 0. Amount of times I ate delish halal food, pretty much every other day
CampeadorTake it easy there Jihad Jake.
Ah, the wonderful taste of Sharia law, it's no surprise you found it so appealing.
Abu-BaghdadiSo I'm guessing you don't like halal? Do you also feel this way against Kosher?
And before you get all conspiracy on me saying halal funds terrorism. It fucking doesn't.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-14/fact-check-does-halal-certification-fund-terrorism/6383238
CampeadorHalal means food prepared in accordance with Sharia law. Perhaps you are not familiar with the other lovely tenets of Sharia law, like the laws that permit rape and sex slavery, forced subjugation and mutilation of women and girls, the indiscriminate killing of infidels, and pedophilia. All of which is practiced quite openly throughout the Middle East, North Africa, Indonesia, and now sadly, Europe as well.
But I'm still glad that you find Sharia law so delicious.
You can take comfort knowing that your muslim friends in ISIS and al-Qaeda are enjoying those same halal foods. Also, your contributions to halal are helping to fund your local madrasa (pardon, "Islamic school"), well done.
.MASSHOLE.
Abu-Baghdadihhahahhahaha, fuck you're an idiot. That's a fucking stretch and a half, implying that halal=support of sharia. Do you also have a problem with Kosher? You know jews committed more terrorist attacks on the US than muslims. OH NO THE JEWS ARE COMING TO KILL US ALL. BAN KOSHER BAN HALAL!!!!!!!
CampeadorOh yes, how could I forget all those Jewish terrorists? Do you get off on relativism and false equivalences? There is no comparison between Judaic law and Sharia law. I'm sure you'll try to look something up from some ultra-left blog, but anyone with an ounce of common sense can see clearly the rational nature of Jews compared to the religious fanaticism of Muslims. But go ahead and post that misleading graph from 2005 if it makes you feel better.
Halal means Sharia law compliant food, it's not even a matter for debate, that's the definition, even a muslim would tell you that.
If you enjoy Sharia food, it begs the question as to what other parts of Sharia you find appealing.
CampeadorOh yes, how could I forget all those Jewish terrorists? Do you get off on relativism and false equivalences? There is no comparison between Judaic law and Sharia law. I'm sure you'll try to look something up from some ultra-left blog, but anyone with an ounce of common sense can see clearly the rational nature of Jews compared to the religious fanaticism of Muslims. But go ahead and post that misleading graph from 2005 if it makes you feel better.
Halal means Sharia law compliant food, it's not even a matter for debate, that's the definition, even a muslim would tell you that.
If you enjoy Sharia food, it begs the question as to what other parts of Sharia you find appealing.
Abu-BaghdadiLiterally halal means a muslim can eat it. Fucking nutella is halal certified. Vegemite is halal. Probably 80% of the food you eat is halal certified. It's probably also kosher certified. You're literally the most paranoid cunt on this website. OMG IF I EAT HALAL IM GOING TO DIE!!!!!
CampeadorDo you have the ability to see past your nose?
Sharia law governs the actions of Muslims, whether or not food is halal is a key component of Sharia law. Halal means "lawful", which means it complies with Sharia law.
While dealing with non-meat products, halal is basically benign, but for meat products it means that the animal was ritually slaughtered. This means that the animal cannot be stunned before it is killed, it has to feel the full pain of being slaughtered. For a meat to be halal the animals throat must be slit. It also involves a Muslim saying some form of prayer before the animal is slaughtered.
"Halal is Arabic for permissible. Halal food is that which adheres to Islamic law, as defined in the Koran.
The Islamic form of slaughtering animals or poultry, dhabiha, involves killing through a cut to the jugular vein, carotid artery and windpipe.
Animals must be alive and healthy at the time of slaughter and all blood is drained from the carcass. During the process, a Muslim will recite a dedication, know as tasmiya or shahada.
Stunning cannot be used to kill an animal, according to the Halal Food Authority (HFA), a non-profit organisation that monitors adherence to halal principles."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31411219
So you go and enjoy your halal meat, and remember, your dinner was told that "there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet" just before it bled out from the throat.
Isn't Sharia law great?
Abu-BaghdadiI'm vegan
CampeadorBy the way, several countries ban halal slaughter, including one of those Scandinavian countries you think the US should be modeled after.
While I understand the meat industry isn't great, there is no need to make it worse for religious reasons, especially when those reasons are derived from Sharia law. That, and I don't want the first pillar of Islam being repeated over the food that I eat, but that is just personal preference.
You'll find me instead in one of the greatest, ant-Sharia, anti-Halal establishments on Earth, a Spanish Jamoneria, enjoying patanegra ham and a bottle of wine, both beautifully non-Sharia compliant.
And I'm not sure where you get the paranoia from, I'm simply pointing out the reality, if you find that "offensive", well that's too bad.
So, since you think Sharia food is great, I'll ask you this, what other parts of Sharia do you find endearing?
FrenchFryThis, you can be involved in politics, but honestly no one will really change anything, unless there is so massive american revolution. But most people think a facebook status will change the world, so until you guys wanna get up and physically fight and get the power back, chill the fuck out and just live and be a good person.
butterslut.this is the type of thinking that makes oppression a thing.
FrenchFryYou're the kind of person who makes a facebook status complaining about politics aren't you. If you're not prepared to actually stand up and protest its fucking pointless thats all im saying.