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Should all skis have twin tips (excluding race skis)

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Da.Vinci
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I've wondered this for some time, why don't they make most skis twin tip. I don't mean center mount or anything but have a twin tip. I understand cross country skis and racing skis besides that why aren't the others twin. Maybe there is a perfect reason and i'm just stupid...
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Feb 25 2016 4:46PM
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Gherbs
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i'm struggling to take this seriously
Feb 25 2016 4:52PM
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Da.Vinci
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Gherbsi'm struggling to take this seriously


heh
Feb 25 2016 5:02PM
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hot.pocket
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Feb 25 2016 5:14PM
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TVRNTVPOOP
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I don't know man, I dont know
Feb 25 2016 5:21PM
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Dddsz
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Because not everybody wants to ski backwards
Feb 25 2016 5:26PM
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Bogs
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There are lots of reasons to have a flat tailed ski vs. a twin tip. Do some more research on ski design/construction and you'll learn some of them.
Feb 25 2016 5:28PM
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Deforestation
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Poll choices are seriously disappointing.

"I'm stupid" and "dank memes"??? I mean come on OP, I'm lookin' out for "OP's sister is a slut", "OP has a dildo up his ear", "Already banged OP's mom".

Y'know, cool stuff like that
Feb 25 2016 5:39PM
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SofaKingSick
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it's not a stupid question at all

twin tips exist mostly so you can ski backwards, but there are other factors too, and other kinds of tails. someone with more ski knowledge can chime in here, but i do know (well, i think i know) that a twin tip releases you out of a turn differently (more easily, i believe?) than a flat tail.

and a flat tail you can jam into the snow more easily than a twin, so super duper hardcore ski mountaineer guys appreciate that.

some skis have little notches taken out of the middle of the tail (i forget the name of that) which i guess makes the tail sink a little bit relative to the front of the ski (for powder), and a pintail....does something, idk. probably makes the tail act a little looser than a flat tail?

hopefully someone with way more knowledge than me will see this thread
Feb 25 2016 5:42PM
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Da.Vinci
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DeforestationPoll choices are seriously disappointing.

"I'm stupid" and "dank memes"??? I mean come on OP, I'm lookin' out for "OP's sister is a slut", "OP has a dildo up his ear", "Already banged OP's mom".

Y'know, cool stuff like that


sorry im a newb to newschoolers, and ill try harder next time
Feb 25 2016 5:42PM
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JibbaTheHutt
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a flat tail has more contact with the snow meaning more effective edge (for length of ski) which in turn means better grip, if you're ripping groomers, having a few extra CMs of tail can make a big difference.
Feb 25 2016 5:54PM
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Bogs
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JibbaTheHutta flat tail has more contact with the snow meaning more effective edge (for length of ski) which in turn means better grip, if you're ripping groomers, having a few extra CMs of tail can make a big difference.


A flat tail also just offers much more support and stability than a twin tipped tail does.
Feb 25 2016 6:02PM
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Gherbs
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BogsA flat tail also just offers much more support and stability than a twin tipped tail does.


directionals ftw
Feb 25 2016 6:14PM
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fries
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Titsandwich11some skis have little notches taken out of the middle of the tail (i forget the name of that) which i guess makes the tail sink a little bit relative to the front of the ski (for powder), and a pintail....does something, idk. probably makes the tail act a little looser than a flat tail?

hopefully someone with way more knowledge than me will see this thread


Its called a swallow tail and its on the 2016-17 line pescados.

But about OP's question, I think i heard somewhere that directional skis perform better than twins so if its twin tipped and the rider isnt going to ski backwards its just doing more bad than good.
Feb 25 2016 7:19PM
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Klaus
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My questions is why isn't every ski just a flat back?
Feb 25 2016 9:48PM
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YunGBlood
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racer skis perform great in park
Feb 26 2016 10:46AM
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corona
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and twin tips are annoying as fuck to ski behind.
Feb 26 2016 10:49AM
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CubanLinx
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How can gaper dads yell at me and call me a "crazy twintipper" if they're riding twintips themselves?
Feb 26 2016 11:50AM
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johnblaze
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a little history lesson for you nerds. When the 1080 first came out and salomon was doing demos, they would run out of all of their standard skis, so would pawn off the 1080s on older folks because they were the only skis left. to their surprise, the oldies loved the skis and gave great reviews when they returned them. the turned up tail release out of turns much easier, allowing for the ski to slide from turn to turn even if the user was slightly back seat. fast forward if you look at almost all beginner to intermediate skis today there is at least a slight turn up on the tail. so while they aren't totally twin tips, the design is still in play for most skis.
Feb 26 2016 12:24PM
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SofaKingSick
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VinnieFand twin tips are annoying as fuck to ski behind.


hm i wouldn't know, ive never been passed by anyone
Feb 26 2016 2:11PM
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Thatdp
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I think Race Skis should be twintips that way you can have a rooster tail all the way down!
Feb 26 2016 2:47PM
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freeskibum82
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johnblazea little history lesson for you nerds. When the 1080 first came out and salomon was doing demos, they would run out of all of their standard skis, so would pawn off the 1080s on older folks because they were the only skis left. to their surprise, the oldies loved the skis and gave great reviews when they returned them. the turned up tail release out of turns much easier, allowing for the ski to slide from turn to turn even if the user was slightly back seat. fast forward if you look at almost all beginner to intermediate skis today there is at least a slight turn up on the tail. so while they aren't totally twin tips, the design is still in play for most skis.


that is correct. most beginner skis also have a rounded tail for this reason as well since most beginners to intermediate skiers slide turn. an on piste skier will benefits from a flat tail that does not taper in to help hold them in their carve (its a fancy word for being on edge, you know those things are used for something other than dulling on rails).
Feb 26 2016 4:42PM
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Microcosm
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johnblazea little history lesson for you nerds. When the 1080 first came out and salomon was doing demos, they would run out of all of their standard skis, so would pawn off the 1080s on older folks because they were the only skis left. to their surprise, the oldies loved the skis and gave great reviews when they returned them. the turned up tail release out of turns much easier, allowing for the ski to slide from turn to turn even if the user was slightly back seat. fast forward if you look at almost all beginner to intermediate skis today there is at least a slight turn up on the tail. so while they aren't totally twin tips, the design is still in play for most skis.


And a lill bit of rocker at tip and tail becoming pretty popular even among skis that do not look steezy as fuck at all.
Feb 26 2016 8:08PM
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