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Atomic Skis Rumor

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JohnBolea
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Is it true that some skiers on atomic that appear to be riding infamous are actually riding punk with infamous graphic's?
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Feb 24 2016 12:40PM
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Newschoolers55
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Nice poll
Feb 24 2016 12:41PM
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BenWhit
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This has certainly happened in the past. For instance, Dumont rode the older, capped version of the Dumont Pro Model with updated graphics because he really loved the ski. I'd imagine this is a wide-spread phenomenon.

Feasibly, how can you effectively market a low price-point ski like the Infamous without have team riders ride it? Would you then, as a brand, have your athletes ski a ski that is inferior and/or does not suit their needs?
Feb 24 2016 12:54PM
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freeskibum82
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most pros are on skis that consumers cant buy. more than likely different base materials and construction of the ski. its been like this for years.
Feb 24 2016 1:25PM
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Charles_Grant
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remember the Salomon LAB ski?
Feb 24 2016 2:51PM
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Klaus
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I saw Mitch Brower at pc with infamous top sheet. I could tell by the tip shapes. Definitely on punx
Feb 24 2016 3:01PM
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Park_Ranger
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No way that Jossi is slaying these massive slope courses on anything but Punx (but if you told me that he is the only one that actually rides the Infamous I wouldn't be surprised because he keeps it tru like that).
Feb 24 2016 4:44PM
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Panta.Pow
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Probably/Yes. If a pro finds himself rocking out with a pair of skis, he'll stay with those and most companies don't care what their athletes have as long as it's their product. Baseline is; if a pro wants something and the company couldn't care less, he's gonna get what he wants
Feb 24 2016 4:59PM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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Probably not. It's very not legal to have the wrong graphics
Feb 24 2016 5:01PM
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ascent_studios
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I have the 2016 infamous and I love them

I bet LSM uses the Infamous and not the Punx cause they're flexy
Feb 24 2016 5:04PM
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simmers
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They're a fucked company. They dropped Stack Ager and Sherpa even though those guys were landing switch in backcountry.
Feb 24 2016 5:32PM
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hot.pocket
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simmersThey're a fucked company. They dropped Stack Ager and Sherpa even though those guys were landing switch in backcountry.


Feb 24 2016 5:39PM
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Klaus
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Squirrel_MurphyProbably not. It's very not legal to have the wrong graphics


No
Feb 24 2016 9:29PM
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JCTheut
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It's a conspiraSKI
Feb 24 2016 9:31PM
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skierman
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simmersThey're a fucked company. They dropped Stack



Don't worry, he works for a legit beer company now. 2bi4 lives on... in Hollywood apparently.
Feb 24 2016 9:32PM
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Bagels
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I heard Mike Douglass still skis on Pocket Rockets with next year's top sheets.
Feb 24 2016 9:36PM
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h.robarge
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KlausI saw Mitch Brower at pc with infamous top sheet. I could tell by the tip shapes. Definitely on punx


mitchell has said that he uses some of Atomic's wider all-mountain freeride skis like the automatic 102. like you said he just throws on the infamous top sheet.
Feb 24 2016 11:01PM
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BenWhit
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Squirrel_MurphyProbably not. It's very not legal to have the wrong graphics



wrong. the parent company & its athletes can do absolutely anything they want to.
Feb 25 2016 10:24AM
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Session
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Squirrel_MurphyProbably not. It's very not legal to have the wrong graphics



Literally the dumbest thing I have ever heard on NS.
Feb 25 2016 10:50AM
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animator
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johnboleaIs it true that some skiers on atomic that appear to be riding infamous are actually riding punk with infamous graphic's?


Who tf cares why do you pay attention to stuff like that anyway
Feb 25 2016 11:21AM
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willyg0808
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Do you think the pro Line riders are actually riding on Tigersnakes?
Feb 25 2016 11:57AM
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KravtZ
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simmersThey're a fucked company. They dropped Stack Ager and Sherpa even though those guys were landing switch in backcountry.


Money talks my man. Plus landing switch in the backcountry 9 out of 10 times looks horrendous on skis unless its some jibby feature I think big jumps look awful
Feb 25 2016 12:01PM
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BenWhit
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animatorWho tf cares why do you pay attention to stuff like that anyway


There's a reason companies sponsor riders and then have them ride a certain ski (or graphic). They find that a certain demographic identifies with and follows a certain skier, so they match that skier with the product (and price point) that fits that demographic. They won't force a skier to ski a product that is inferior or less than what they want, so they will give them the skeleton of a ski that suits the athlete, and slap graphics on it that match the lower price point ski. It's fairly basic marketing. it's very obvious people care about if we get threads like this & companies devote time & resources to it.
Feb 25 2016 12:11PM
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Park_Ranger
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KravtZlanding switch in the backcountry 9 out of 10 times looks horrendous on skis unless its some jibby feature I think big jumps look awful


False
Feb 25 2016 12:18PM
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animator
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Park_RangerFalse


Yeah fairs athletes are supposed to ride certain skis but who cares if theyre not
Feb 25 2016 12:19PM
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KravtZ
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Park_RangerFalse


different strokes different folkes....but i'd watch a steezed out cork 3 anyday into a stomped landing than a 5 or 9 with a crap landing and maybe a hand drag
Feb 25 2016 12:33PM
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BenWhit
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animatorYeah fairs athletes are supposed to ride certain skis but who cares if theyre not


Who are you to decide what people can & can't care about? What people can & can't talk about or be interested in?

It raises questions. Consumers want to emulate the skiers they look up to and follow closely. If you're a fan of Jossi Wells and Atomic markets to you that he rides the Infamous, you want to buy the Infamous. They are making a calculated decision that the consumers that are fans of Jossi Wells are qualified buyers of the Infamous and unqualified buyers of the Punx. The Punx are too big, too beefy, and too far out of that consumer's price range. Does that mean Jossi is suited to ski the Infamous? Not necessarily. So, they have him ride Punx dressed in Infamous graphics. It's a win-win. Jossi gets the ski he wants and Atomic effectively markets their ski to the proper qualified buyers. So, when the consumer finds out that the ski their favorite riders ride are not in face the ski they bought, it begs the question; "what is wrong with the ski that it is not good enough for X Rider, but it is good enough for me?"

If you're still not getting it, I'm assuming you're 13.
Feb 25 2016 12:39PM
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zakattack66
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willyg0808Do you think the pro Line riders are actually riding on Tigersnakes?


Yeah.
Feb 25 2016 3:06PM
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liamrashotte
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Squirrel_MurphyProbably not. It's very not legal to have the wrong graphics


lol what
Feb 25 2016 3:43PM
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Park_Ranger
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KravtZdifferent strokes different folkes....but i'd watch a steezed out cork 3 anyday into a stomped landing than a 5 or 9 with a crap landing and maybe a hand drag


I'll just leave this here
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Feb 25 2016 4:05PM
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Klaus
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h.robargemitchell has said that he uses some of Atomic's wider all-mountain freeride skis like the automatic 102. like you said he just throws on the infamous top sheet.


Makes so much sense, there's just no way those are really them
Feb 25 2016 5:31PM
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OldDirtyPete
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In some Taylor Seaton edits, his skis look like infamous but they seem a lot wider underfoot. So can't decide if they are mystery skis or if Taylor Seaton is a midget.
Feb 25 2016 5:36PM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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Squirrel_MurphyProbably not. It's very not legal to have the wrong graphics


BenWhitwrong. the parent company & its athletes can do absolutely anything they want to.


SessionLiterally the dumbest thing I have ever heard on NS.


You guys are pretty fucking dumb to take this serious considering how many times people jizz over new prototypes on this site with repeat graphics or even blank topsheets.

"very not legal." Who even says that in a serious way? Newbs.
Feb 25 2016 6:02PM
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BenWhit
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Squirrel_MurphyYou guys are pretty fucking dumb to take this serious considering how many times people jizz over new prototypes on this site with repeat graphics or even blank topsheets.

"very not legal." Who even says that in a serious way? Newbs.


Because I'm supposed to infer your tone or trolling among the thousands of uneducated tweens on this site from an innocuous comment. GTFO out of here. If you were a recognizable name, maybe you'd be onto something there.
Feb 25 2016 6:36PM
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eheath
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freeskibum82most pros are on skis that consumers cant buy. more than likely different base materials and construction of the ski. its been like this for years.


While it might be true that some skis have different topsheets i.e. the topic of the thread, i'd say most of the time the "pros" are on skis that the consumers can buy. Companies don't just make specific skis for athletes unless it's a pro model, which you can buy. The only exception in this case would be prototypes that they're testing to be a pro model or just a new model in general, what you're saying just isn't true these days, maybe 6 or 7 years ago armada for example made pipe skis for athletes with races bases, but now that's just the pipe cleaner, it was definitely something that did happen, companies just make those kinda skis now, get what im saying?
Feb 25 2016 6:52PM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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BenWhitBecause I'm supposed to infer your tone or trolling among the thousands of uneducated tweens on this site from an innocuous comment. GTFO out of here. If you were a recognizable name, maybe you'd be onto something there.


Yeah, you are the grammar placement is a dead giveaway but then again you must be the uneducated tween, so there's that.
Feb 25 2016 7:10PM
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Park_Ranger
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eheathWhile it might be true that some skis have different topsheets i.e. the topic of the thread, i'd say most of the time the "pros" are on skis that the consumers can buy. Companies don't just make specific skis for athletes unless it's a pro model, which you can buy. The only exception in this case would be prototypes that they're testing to be a pro model or just a new model in general, what you're saying just isn't true these days, maybe 6 or 7 years ago armada for example made pipe skis for athletes with races bases, but now that's just the pipe cleaner, it was definitely something that did happen, companies just make those kinda skis now, get what im saying?


This. If it does happen, I bet that it is reserved for a select few guys who are the big money comp commercial skiers. 9 out of 10 pros are riding the same skis as everyone else.
Feb 25 2016 7:10PM
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BenWhit
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Squirrel_MurphyYeah, you are the grammar placement is a dead giveaway but then again you must be the uneducated tween, so there's that.


I don't understand the sentences you're making.
Feb 25 2016 7:55PM
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freeskibum82
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eheathWhile it might be true that some skis have different topsheets i.e. the topic of the thread, i'd say most of the time the "pros" are on skis that the consumers can buy. Companies don't just make specific skis for athletes unless it's a pro model, which you can buy. The only exception in this case would be prototypes that they're testing to be a pro model or just a new model in general, what you're saying just isn't true these days, maybe 6 or 7 years ago armada for example made pipe skis for athletes with races bases, but now that's just the pipe cleaner, it was definitely something that did happen, companies just make those kinda skis now, get what im saying?


That is true. i guess the definition of "pro" has changed since then.
Feb 26 2016 7:14AM
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270on420out
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Tehy are actually riding Heart Carve Meathammers with Infamous topsheets
Feb 26 2016 7:40AM
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murphyboiiii
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h.robargemitchell has said that he uses some of Atomic's wider all-mountain freeride skis like the automatic 102. like you said he just throws on the infamous top sheet.


I asked yung brower this on instagram and he firmly stated that he rides the infamous, not sure if that makes a difference or not
Feb 26 2016 1:45PM
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murphyboiiii
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h.robargemitchell has said that he uses some of Atomic's wider all-mountain freeride skis like the automatic 102. like you said he just throws on the infamous top sheet.


I asked yung brower this on instagram and he firmly stated that he rides the infamous, not sure if that makes a difference or not
Feb 26 2016 1:46PM
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h.robarge
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murphyboiiiiI asked yung brower this on instagram and he firmly stated that he rides the infamous, not sure if that makes a difference or not


Well I highly doubt Atomic would be down with him telling random people that he doesn't use the stock ski. They pay him to promote the Infamous ski, thus why he puts the graphic on whatever else he rides. Also, I'm sure he works with Atomic on new skis/shapes/flex patterns, etc. so it's not entirely unlikely that he uses a much different ski than what the consumers see.
Feb 26 2016 5:42PM
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