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hot.pocketWhat kind of park skiing do you like to do? i.e. rails, jumps, butters, halfpipe...
East_the_SkiRails and jumps mainly, im still learning butters.
the_yock_34Aramda Thall is a great ski, i would recommend any Armada ski though. i do know that ON3P and Moment make really nice rockered skis, but Armada makes full cambered skis, so i say any of those brands depending on what kind of ski you prefer.
hot.pocketWe also have a park ski with Triple Camber in it, gives a little playfulness and a little grip throughout the entire mountain.
East_the_SkiLike i said im sorta new to skiing so could someone explain the difference between a rockered ski and a cambered ski. Thanks!
East_the_Skibut the top surface chips very easily
hot.pocketRockered ski:
Cambered ski:
Hybrid ski:
Basically camber is where your ski rises off the ground in the middle, and rocker is the opposite of that.
Cambered skis give more control, rockered skis give more of a floaty care-free feel. Beginners should stick to cambered skis, or a hybrid ski, where there is camber underfoot but there is early rise to the tip and tail (i.e. just the tip and tail have rocker). This helps you learn to ski properly before transitioning to a rockered ski, where proper skiing plays a larger role in being able to really rip into turns.
Triple Camber is a Moment Skis specific type of camber where there are two pockets of camber, one in front of and one behind the binding mount. Looks like this:
The benefit to Triple Camber is that the ski can remain light and flexy, while still holding an edge when you want to really rip turns down the mountain.
hughlorinthat's going to be 95% of skis you ride in the park. you can cut down on chipping by beveling the topsheet (basically filing the edges of the topsheet down.) I did it on my KFs and it's worked wonders, granted I'm pretty sure they have a nylon topsheet.
I can personally speak for ON3P filthy riches, Kitten Factory rayzrblaydz, and Armada AR6s.
my AR6s were my first ski. they ripped it everywhere except the powder, and if you're looking for a similar ski to what you're riding now, or looking for a ski to shred park AND all mountain, I would say the AR7s would be a good fit. full camber, super poppy, and are super fun to charge on. plus, they hold up to abuse pretty well (seems to be the case for most Armada skis.) mine have an edge ripped out and some core shots I ptexed and they are still as fun to ski as when I first got them (but maybe that's just the nostalgia.) center mounted or -2.5cm back they are great on rails, and they are very comfortable to spin on (I never did anything more than backflips and 360s on them but still. they do it all. great ski, and you can usually find brand new pairs for pretty cheap if you do some searching or buy them during the spring/summer. my friend got a pair brand new for $250 from a local shop during the summer.
my KFs are a little too long for me (I got a 183 when I probably should have gotten a 173) so they were a little hard to use in the park, but I have no doubt that if they were the right size I would have loved them in the park. they are a stiffer ski with a camber/rocker hybrid profile that can really charge and carve. seriously, ripping groomers on these things is so fun, and they turn on a dime. super well built, and the guys over at KF are awesome people. I wish they made more sizes (if anyone from KF is reading this, something closer to a 176 would be PERFECT for a park ski for most guys- (;wink wink), but if you fall within the sizing range of what they currently offer and want to try something new, KF are worth a look.
my ON3P filthies are awesome, but they are definitely a pure park ski. if you're still learning to ski, I wouldn't necessarily recommend them because they are fully rockered and there's definitely a learning curve when it comes to skiing a fully rockered ski. I honestly hated them the first few days I skied them, but after spending more time on them I truly love the way they ski. they give that "floaty and free" feel and glide over the snow which is fun when the snow is great. you can still carve on them, but you won't feel them "lock in" like you would with a cambered or hybrid. they are awesome for jumps and spinning, and the rocker is great when getting on to rails or buttering (if you're into that), but I wouldn't recommend them if you are new to the park or skiing. ON3Ps are incredibly well built, and I think looking into the kartel's would be a good idea if you're considering ON3P.
I know it's daunting to buy a pair of new skis, but chances are, you're gonna be happy with almost any ski you end up deciding on so don't worry too much. :)
East_the_SkiYoure probably completely right. What ever ski i get i will like, i was just looking for some pointers in the right direction. So far its between On3p's, head framewall, or some armadas. The new armada arvs coming out look super nice but probably will come with a huge price tag.
hughlorinI feel that! I was the same way when I was looking into a new pair. it's a big investment, but I've found that it's one you can't go TOO wrong on if you do proper research like you're doing.
East_the_SkiI'm actually extremely convinced on getting the on3p filthy riches or armadas now, but not gunna worry about it till summer/next season.
hot.pocketFigure out what you want then jump on the big spring sales that every company does to get rid of stock.