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Magnus Graner Talks Being Dropped by Orage

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Kretzschmar
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BB0ostbNLq2/
Full interview here: http://sbcskier.com/magnus-and-lsm-qa/


I'm glad someone finally said what they were thinking instead of pussyfooting around the question/situation. Big ups Magnus.

**This thread was edited on Feb 15th 2016 at 7:00:51pm
Feb 15 2016 6:59PM
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Kretzschmar
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GORILLAWALLACEthey write buzz feed style articles for ns


CLICK FOR 10 REASONS YOU WON'T BELIEVE ABOUT WHAT WE ARE WRITING NEXT
Feb 28 2016 10:48PM
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T-Nutcracker
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simmersYour attitude sucks. I know you think you're being a hard hitting journalist here, but really you're just being an idiot kid. Looks to me like Orage had some contracts which they faithfully fulfilled and then decided not to renew. Sure, there are going to be some hurt feelings with the skiers who don't get a re-up. But Orage is still sponsoring some legit skiers, from what I can see on their website. And all these legit skiers have been through "getting dropped" and managed to take it with some measure of grace, which is why they're still getting sponsored today.

When a skier signs with a sponsor, the skier has the obligation to rep that brand for the contract period and no longer. Likewise, the brand has the obligation to support that skier according to the contract terms for the length of the contract and no longer. Magnus's contract with Orage no doubt had a "non-defamation clause," which stated that he would not make any negative statements to the public for a set time period after his relationship with Orage ended. This is a commitment that Magnus made to Orage and subsequently broke. And of course, you helped him do it, you modern-day Upton Sinclair, you.

Being a professional means meeting your end of the bargain. In both skiing and sectors of society where people do real work, contract expirations like this happen all the time. There are disappointments, there are hurt feelings, there are bruised egos. But the people who win in the long run, the people you could describe as "professionals," are the people who suck it up and say "thanks for supporting me while you did."

I guarantee every person who is currently sponsored by Orage could tell you a story about when a sponsor didn't come through like they thought they would. The difference between them and Magnus is they sucked it up like adults. You and your little buddy Magnus might think that you're sticking it to The Man. But really, you're just looking like a couple of little children, running your mouths about a company that has put a large amount of money and support behind freeskiing for a decade, and from the looks of it, is continuing to do so today.

Magnus's statements are those of a sore loser. They make him look bad, they make you look bad, and they make skiers look bad. Thankfully, there are plenty of skiers out there with plenty of talent, plenty of motivation and plenty of class, ready to replace him and look great doing it. You're not as hard to replace as you think you are.

In the mean time, maybe SBC Skier can sponsor Magnus. And maybe you can write a "fuck you" story about every sponsor that ever didn't renew a contract. Keep fighting the good fight, buddy.


Sorry but if this is Jon Symms, this is the most hyporcytical post on NS. Dude dont get me wrong, i loved your parts in old PBP movies, still enjoy your skiing. BUT correct me if im wrong but remember when Jibberish dropped you cause you tried to sell their stickers you got for free on ebay?? Then for like a week your were flaming on Jibberish on NS. I remember them as if it was today "Symms vs Jibberish beef" etc. It seems much harsher how you got into a beef with them and hated on them so badly for a long time on NS.

If my memory is faulty please correct me, but im pretty sure this was the case man.
Mar 2 2016 4:51PM
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simmers
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T-NutcrackerSorry but if this is Jon Symms, this is the most hyporcytical post on NS. Dude dont get me wrong, i loved your parts in old PBP movies, still enjoy your skiing. BUT correct me if im wrong but remember when Jibberish dropped you cause you tried to sell their stickers you got for free on ebay?? Then for like a week your were flaming on Jibberish on NS. I remember them as if it was today "Symms vs Jibberish beef" etc. It seems much harsher how you got into a beef with them and hated on them so badly for a long time on NS.

If my memory is faulty please correct me, but im pretty sure this was the case man.


Your memory is faulty. I never had a beef with Jiberish, nor was I ever sponsored (or dropped) by them.
Mar 2 2016 5:34PM
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Pachankz
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T-NutcrackerSorry but if this is Jon Symms, this is the most hyporcytical post on NS. Dude dont get me wrong, i loved your parts in old PBP movies, still enjoy your skiing. BUT correct me if im wrong but remember when Jibberish dropped you cause you tried to sell their stickers you got for free on ebay?? Then for like a week your were flaming on Jibberish on NS. I remember them as if it was today "Symms vs Jibberish beef" etc. It seems much harsher how you got into a beef with them and hated on them so badly for a long time on NS.

If my memory is faulty please correct me, but im pretty sure this was the case man.


Pretty sure that was John spriggs
Mar 2 2016 5:47PM
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Mr.Bishop
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simmersEven Mr. Bishop got dropped by Orage.


Though I missed this post originally, I would largely correct this in saying I sort of just faded away from Orage. I was only on Flow, and I eventually just realized I was too bad and stopped asking for new gear.
Mar 2 2016 6:20PM
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simmers
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Mr.BishopThough I missed this post originally, I would largely correct this in saying I sort of just faded away from Orage. I was only on Flow, and I eventually just realized I was too bad and stopped asking for new gear.


What a politically correct thing to say...The perfect statement for covering up a massive conspiracy.
Mar 2 2016 6:22PM
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Mr.Bishop
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simmersWhat a politically correct thing to say...The perfect statement for covering up a massive conspiracy.


Maybe you know something I don't...
Mar 2 2016 6:41PM
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bump,

just finished season 1, will there be more episodes?
Mar 2 2016 10:44PM
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T-Nutcracker
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PachankzPretty sure that was John spriggs


ahhh yea. sorry @ J. Symms for the confusion !!!!
Mar 3 2016 9:39AM
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What a ride.

Does anyone know if Magnus actually had a contract?
Mar 3 2016 3:35PM
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T-NutcrackerSorry but if this is Jon Symms, this is the most hyporcytical post on NS. Dude dont get me wrong, i loved your parts in old PBP movies, still enjoy your skiing. BUT correct me if im wrong but remember when Jibberish dropped you cause you tried to sell their stickers you got for free on ebay?? Then for like a week your were flaming on Jibberish on NS. I remember them as if it was today "Symms vs Jibberish beef" etc. It seems much harsher how you got into a beef with them and hated on them so badly for a long time on NS.

If my memory is faulty please correct me, but im pretty sure this was the case man.


that was spriggs dude.....
Mar 4 2016 11:54AM
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Using this thread I decided to try and decipher what want went down with Orage and their rebrand as part of my project for my marketing capstone at college. Feel free to check out the write up.

https://joeyfavara.wordpress.com/2016/03/08/cmon-orage/
Mar 8 2016 3:41PM
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-Dan
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bump for some isolation reading.
May 26 2020 4:03PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Thanks Dan
-Danbump for some isolation reading.
May 26 2020 4:10PM
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404404
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Wow, that didn't age well...

I might be one of the most dropped skiers in the game.


WormracerWay of the road.

Pumped to be on Planks.
May 27 2020 9:47PM
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WormracerWow, that didn't age well...

I might be one of the most dropped skiers in the game.


Why did Planks drop you? Seemed like they put a bunch of people on and had a sick team, and now they sponsor Woodsy, Lupe and Real Skifi lol
May 27 2020 9:51PM
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A bunch of financial reasons combined with a employee that didn't ski and had no idea what I did all winter.

This is a direct quote (add female British accent)

"Andy, I don't see what you did for us this year"

This was 2 months after giving out a 100+ Planks items on TAFT (not a paying sponsor but I wanted to help everyone out), and filming a full season on LTC that generated probably around 150k views.

She isn't with the company anymore.
fredyferlWhy did Planks drop you? Seemed like they put a bunch of people on and had a sick team, and now they sponsor Woodsy, Lupe and Real Skifi lol
May 28 2020 6:47PM
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WormracerA bunch of financial reasons combined with a employee that didn't ski and had no idea what I did all winter.

This is a direct quote (add female British accent)

"Andy, I don't see what you did for us this year"

This was 2 months after giving out a 100+ Planks items on TAFT (not a paying sponsor but I wanted to help everyone out), and filming a full season on LTC that generated probably around 150k views.

She isn't with the company anymore.
May 28 2020 7:08PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuithttps://voca.ro/kRaE9GlacLd


that was not British mate.
May 28 2020 7:10PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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You know how many British accents there are?

Edit: I have no idea what it is, maybe closer to Irish since I gamed with this Irish dude for awhile
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965234/A-tour-of-The-UK-and-Ireland-in-accents-
runjoythat was not British mate.


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May 28 2020 7:13PM
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codizzle
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WormracerWow, that didn't age well...

I might be one of the most dropped skiers in the game.


sorry I'm clueless, but who are you? i'm curious.
May 28 2020 8:59PM
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-Dan
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codizzlesorry I'm clueless, but who are you? i'm curious.


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/965237/The-Sandlot---Great-Bambino
May 28 2020 9:27PM
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404404
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Some old dude who sweeps floors.
codizzlesorry I'm clueless, but who are you? i'm curious.
May 29 2020 10:47AM
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WormracerSome old dude who sweeps floors.


Sweeps floors with the hair of hippies that he killed.
May 30 2020 2:46AM
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codizzle
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WormracerSome old dude who sweeps floors.


28 isn't very old. sweeping floors is OK. i answer phones.
Jun 2 2020 10:48PM
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Jpurd
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What a read.
Jun 4 2020 11:13AM
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404404
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33 but thanks for the kind words.

codizzle28 isn't very old. sweeping floors is OK. i answer phones.
Jun 7 2020 7:17PM
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Jpurd
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Wormracer33 but thanks for the kind words.


Its okay Andy, we still love you and always will. Even when you're old as shit.
Jun 7 2020 9:57PM
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WormracerA bunch of financial reasons combined with a employee that didn't ski and had no idea what I did all winter.

This is a direct quote (add female British accent)

"Andy, I don't see what you did for us this year"

This was 2 months after giving out a 100+ Planks items on TAFT (not a paying sponsor but I wanted to help everyone out), and filming a full season on LTC that generated probably around 150k views.

She isn't with the company anymore.


She got a job judging FIS slopestyle comps instead.
Jun 7 2020 10:24PM
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codizzle
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Wormracer33 but thanks for the kind words.


aaaah, you're older than i thought.

when you were a kid, what pro skiers did you look up to in the early 2000s?
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