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How do you start learning doubles?

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BonusNo413
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Do you need to sign up for a gymnastics club or just practice a lot on the regular tramps at a place like Skyzone? I don't have access to olympic trampolines except one at a local tramp place which is surrounded by walls for some reason so it's not that safe. I also have access to a foam pit... is that all you need?
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Rennis_Deynolds
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A part of me really wants to say get fulltilts.
























































































































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270on420out
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There's a trampoline park by my house that has an Olympic tramp. I just go there to practice dubs. My mountain has the airbag tour come for a weekend so I'll use it for a day to practice dubs.
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spaceghostpurp
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Get comfortable throwing single flips and then one day nut up and do a dub flip. Then once you get comfortable with single corks/rodeos, nut up and take it to dub. Also break down tricks ie dub 12 = cork 5 to cork 5 to 180, or cork 3 to cork 9
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BonusNo413
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spaceghostpurpGet comfortable throwing single flips and then one day nut up and do a dub flip. Then once you get comfortable with single corks/rodeos, nut up and take it to dub. Also break down tricks ie dub 12 = cork 5 to cork 5 to 180, or cork 3 to cork 9


I know. My issue is I don't know where to learn doubles before doing one on snow.
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liamskis15
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Buy Spk's
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fries
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OxcilicI know. My issue is I don't know where to learn doubles before doing one on snow.


I went for double backflips first. Just threw them on my backyard trampoline with a friend and had him throw a cushion under me to make it less scary. The only real way is to just go for it. If you have any gymnastics places in your area that do open gyms you can check that out, some have pretty bouncy trampolines with stuff you can use as throw mats and its not near as scary as it would be on a backyard trampoline
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spaceghostpurp
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OxcilicI know. My issue is I don't know where to learn doubles before doing one on snow.


just huck a dub backflip into powder. Get super confortable with singles and dubs will not be that much harder. try it out on a trampoline before if you want.
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hi_vis360
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you have access to an olympic trampoline and a foam pit? how did you even learn 360s??
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BonusNo413
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BASEDJAHyou have access to an olympic trampoline and a foam pit? how did you even learn 360s??


The issue is the olympic tramp is surround by solid walls, it's really small, and not very bouncy. Actually I'm not even sure it's an olympic tramp. It just has a beige colored mat and is as bouncy as the regular black ones.
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Deepskier
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Get super comfortable with all flips on snow like corks rodeos ect but also cork 3s 5s 7s ect with each trick then go to a tramp place and try them into the foam pit then get them on tramp with a throw pad then get them comfy on tramp all around then on an air bag then to snow.
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Smuffy
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Alright, a couple things that people aren't mentioning. First off, you don't just go do doubles. It's a process, and not something to rush into.

A part of that, while there are some good ideas in here, is to do tricks to your back. Doing double back? Do one and a quarter. Trying dub 10? Do cork 7 and rotate to your back then roll it over. Whenever possible, break learning tricks into smaller steps. Think outside the box
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theabortionator
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I learned dubs on snow before I learned them on the trampoline. If you have an airbag anywhere around maybe try that. Honestly if you have your singles dialed, a good jump in the park, wait for a bluebird day this spring and send that shit.
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shin-bang
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I tripled into foam one time.


i bottomed out the trampoline at the bottom of the foam pit and blew up my foot/ankle. So yea dont do that ish
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JakeBarrett
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1,2, fuck it. Go and Huck it.

Really wanting to throw dub 12 this weekend but I'm real scared. Kinda landed a kang a few years back but fucked my head up on the second try so I haven't tried em since. Dubs are really fun though
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Oli_Kelski
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It probably depends on the dub, if you're going dub backie or flat then once you have a single on lock just go big and bring the second round, but if you're trying off axis dubs like dub corks etc then tramps are great to get the aerial awareness and know how it's going to come round and spotting and all that, which helps heaps, but I find foam pits don't work too well, get a mate to throw a mat for you, and any tramp will do
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JakeBarrett
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JakeBarrett1,2, fuck it. Go and Huck it.

Really wanting to throw dub 12 this weekend but I'm real scared. Kinda landed a kang a few years back but fucked my head up on the second try so I haven't tried em since. Dubs are really fun though


finally threw it and god dammit its fun to flip twice
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Mingg
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Do not do them at skyzone on their normal tramps. Maybe into a foam pit but those tramps don't have enough bounce whatsoever. Also don't try doubles unless you have a cool person monitoring there. Otherwise they will kick you out.

Like smuffy said, break them down. Do dubs to your back and roll over. For forward things, over rotate to your back, not to your stomach unless you want to die. Always send it to your feet, butt or back.

Typical progression imo would be singles into pit, singles on tramp, over rotate to pit, dubs into pit, over rotate/roll over on tramp, then dubs on tramp. Definitely learn dub front and dub backs since they're super easy.
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Mikael13
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For double backflips have really solid backflips and learn them on a tramp first. Overrotate your backflips to your back. Once you start feeling comfortable with that do a backflip onto your back, and from your back 3/4 backflip onto your feet. This simulates the feeling of going into your second flip and will making your first try less scary.

For when you are actually gonna try it just do it like a normal backflip but jump higher and flip harder. If you are on a garden trampoline you are probably gonna underrotate so definetly don't open up before you can actually see the trampoline.
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Mikael13
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Mikael13For double backflips have really solid backflips and learn them on a tramp first. Overrotate your backflips to your back. Once you start feeling comfortable with that do a backflip onto your back, and from your back 3/4 backflip onto your feet. This simulates the feeling of going into your second flip and will making your first try less scary.

For when you are actually gonna try it just do it like a normal backflip but jump higher and flip harder. If you are on a garden trampoline you are probably gonna underrotate so definetly don't open up before you can actually see the trampoline.


And for snow it should be the same as on a trampoline. Hard to say as I can't backflip yet ;p
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theabortionator
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OxcilicDo you need to sign up for a gymnastics club or just practice a lot on the regular tramps at a place like Skyzone? I don't have access to olympic trampolines except one at a local tramp place which is surrounded by walls for some reason so it's not that safe. I also have access to a foam pit... is that all you need?


its up to you. a lot of people learned then without tramps foam pits or airbags. If you think you can do it you probably can.
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DeFunk
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MinggDo not do them at skyzone on their normal tramps. Maybe into a foam pit but those tramps don't have enough bounce whatsoever. Also don't try doubles unless you have a cool person monitoring there. Otherwise they will kick you out.

Like smuffy said, break them down. Do dubs to your back and roll over. For forward things, over rotate to your back, not to your stomach unless you want to die. Always send it to your feet, butt or back.

Typical progression imo would be singles into pit, singles on tramp, over rotate to pit, dubs into pit, over rotate/roll over on tramp, then dubs on tramp. Definitely learn dub front and dub backs since they're super easy.


If you're looking for a place to practice dubs, or any tricks for that matter and you're willing to make a trip go to Vertical Zone in Barrie.
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Go join the wonderful relm of aireals.
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theabortionator
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I feel like its less skethcy sending it to your feet on a tramp. To me intentionally over rotating is sketch.

If you have whatever the first flip is on lock figure out which angle youre going to dip in for the second visualize it and send it. If you know what youre doing and commit youll likely be fine.

If youre really sketched find an airbag near you and try some into that.
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TheBigApple
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Why not find a diving board?
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Thegratefulskier
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Forget doubles and go straight for the triple
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Karl_Hungus
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OxcilicI know. My issue is I don't know where to learn doubles before doing one on snow.


dude dont be a pussy, you dont even need a trampoline to do a flip, theres soft snow to fall in which is better. doubles are as simple as going really fast, hitting a jump, tucking and grabbing, land in pow
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winniecash
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MinggDo not do them at skyzone on their normal tramps. Maybe into a foam pit but those tramps don't have enough bounce whatsoever.


This, tried them this weekend a couple times and land on my neck everytime. It's ok tho some little kid saw me try it told me it was "super cool!" So i tried it again!




















landed on my neck.
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ben_southworth
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drytshirtcontestdude dont be a pussy, you dont even need a trampoline to do a flip, theres soft snow to fall in which is better. doubles are as simple as going really fast, hitting a jump, tucking and grabbing, land in pow


This kind of attitude is largely responsible for why so many people get hurt. I love dubs. OP should definitely learn dubs. But a little bit of thought on how to train / throw your first dub and if you're ready to throw dub goes a long way in preventing injury.

Also surprised nobody has mentioned diving boards. Maybe that's old school now, but it's a real easy way to get comfortable spinning and flipping on just about any axis, w/ zero risk.
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Mingg
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ben_southworthAlso surprised nobody has mentioned diving boards. Maybe that's old school now, but it's a real easy way to get comfortable spinning and flipping on just about any axis, w/ zero risk.


I don't think I would recommend diving boards haha. I've never dubbed off one but even sending back flips on them sketches me out. Slamming on water hurts so much more than it would in a foam pit. But I guess if you like diving boards and it works for you then go for it. It just hurts me hahaha
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ben_southworth
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MinggI don't think I would recommend diving boards haha. I've never dubbed off one but even sending back flips on them sketches me out. Slamming on water hurts so much more than it would in a foam pit. But I guess if you like diving boards and it works for you then go for it. It just hurts me hahaha


No pain no gain Mingg! Diving boards are great cause you won't cause serious injury, but when you slap onto your face it's a good reminder not to mess up again. And there weren't really foam pits when I was focused on learning new tricks...
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Mingg
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ben_southworthNo pain no gain Mingg! Diving boards are great cause you won't cause serious injury, but when you slap onto your face it's a good reminder not to mess up again. And there weren't really foam pits when I was focused on learning new tricks...


word. It all comes down to where you're most comfortable, I suppose! Any of them will work. And honestly if you're comfortable/confident in where you are doing it, that's super important. Bailing halfway through a rotation or only half sending it never ends well.
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MinggDo not do them at skyzone on their normal tramps. Maybe into a foam pit but those tramps don't have enough bounce whatsoever. Also don't try doubles unless you have a cool person monitoring there. Otherwise they will kick you out.

Like smuffy said, break them down. Do dubs to your back and roll over. For forward things, over rotate to your back, not to your stomach unless you want to die. Always send it to your feet, butt or back.

Typical progression imo would be singles into pit, singles on tramp, over rotate to pit, dubs into pit, over rotate/roll over on tramp, then dubs on tramp. Definitely learn dub front and dub backs since they're super easy.


did you just recommend tryin dub front as your first dub ?

wtf
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Mingg
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-emile-did you just recommend tryin dub front as your first dub ?

wtf


Nah, not really. I mean, they were my first dubs but they're also a bit harder to land on tramp than dub backs. I think on axis dubs are easier so I think that would be a good place to start, that's all I was saying. And doing a dub front into a pit is super easy and helps to get the feel of what a dub feels like air awareness wise!
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-emile-
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MinggNah, not really. I mean, they were my first dubs but they're also a bit harder to land on tramp than dub backs. I think on axis dubs are easier so I think that would be a good place to start, that's all I was saying. And doing a dub front into a pit is super easy and helps to get the feel of what a dub feels like air awareness wise!


dub front is a recipe for death.

easiest dub is hands down dub back, followed closely by dub misty 9
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Mingg
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-emile-dub front is a recipe for death.

easiest dub is hands down dub back, followed closely by dub misty 9


Yeah agreed. For me it was harder to commit for my first dub back. But they're definitely easier to land and not get bucked on haha.
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Lokdog
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At my home mountain (Whitewater) we usually build a jump in the backcountry and just send it, tends to work out pretty well so long as you can already do singles. I honestly feel dubs on tramp and such are way sketchier than skis but idk if a lot of people agree with that, if you get good pow then just fuckin send it.
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Lokdog
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-emile-dub front is a recipe for death.

easiest dub is hands down dub back, followed closely by dub misty 9


First dub i did was front but that was off a booter in the backcountry into pow, though i just did one off a cliff and legit you just need a lot of air time to bring it around. Dub back is defs easiest cuz you can spot the landing and it's much easier to do the rotation.
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I_Swear_I_Ski
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start dubbing on a tramp and then if you're lucky to an airbag. if not then just cop it and chuck your meat. it won't be that bad
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dyer
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Watch a jake muller video.
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Karl_Hungus
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-emile-dub front is a recipe for death.

easiest dub is hands down dub back, followed closely by dub misty 9


dub front is a straight up ignorant trick. you have to not give a fuck to do them
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YunGBlood
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dont be a pussy
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