Why are people going to vote for bernie?

brov1bernie is a smart guy and i agree with him 100% from a moral perspective

ebotdz.

brov1he feels to me like a leftist trump who just spouts unrealistic gibberish because people like to hear it.

brov1moral and logically moral are very different things my dude

onenerdykidHis policies won't be easy to get through Congress

7springsprodJust what our country needs. Is for congress to do nothing for another 4 years.

onenerdykidHe's been arguing for the same policies for the last 30+ years. He's hardly saying it because its what people nowadays want to hear. His policies won't be easy to get through Congress, but he has consistently demonstrated his ability to work with both parties to get legislation passed. Every politician praises him for that, and the same cannot be said for other candidates. Ultimately, I'd much rather have someone with whom I generally agree with morally hold office than another politician cut from the same old cloth.



Please explain. Moral principles are derived using practical reason, so I fail to see how something can be both moral and illogical at the same time. If you are using the word "logical" as a substitute for "pragmatic" than I would probably agree with you.

brov1i was actually using logical as pragmatic, but also as logical. logically we do want a president that is morally correct, but there is more logic in sacrificing some morality for more progress and experience in the fields that are most important for a president, like foreign policy. which hilary has a lot of.

onenerdykidSo let's not blame Bernie (not saying that you are), let's blame the dickbags who will oppose any measure simply because it did not originate from their side of the aisle. But, like I said, there is no politician who has a better track record than Bernie when it comes to finding a compromise that works for both sides. He has proven that he is the best at this.

onenerdykidHe's been arguing for the same policies for the last 30+ years. He's hardly saying it because its what people nowadays want to hear. His policies won't be easy to get through Congress, but he has consistently demonstrated his ability to work with both parties to get legislation passed. Every politician praises him for that, and the same cannot be said for other candidates.

assatrailza lot of what u said is bs you obviously don't stay up to date with your politics buddy

THEDIRTYBUBBLEI thought Bernie was an OK candidate up until he said "15$ minimum wage". I'm open to raising the minimum wage, but 15$ is bullshit.

Brule.It's not like they're gonna make the minimum wage $15 overnight.

KravtZAll of his free ideas involve spending...and taking that money from hard working americans. I dont care if you make 100 million or 1000 a year. You deserve to keep what you make.

I paid for college on my own with NO help through hard work, smarts, and good grades which ledme into some high paying internships which led into a decent paying job which let me live a good life.

I dont want to be enslaved forever in school debt because this moron wants to let everyone off the hook. The problem isn't colleges...they are just opportunistic.

The problem is GOVERNMENT. They are the ones who caused tuition to massively rise by pushing degrees on everyone when most shouldnt have it and guaranteeing colleges the money 100% with no bankruptcy option in the future.

Peter.if only Bernie supporters understood this. if he wins, it doesn't mean boom, free college, free everything right away. none of his ridiculous plans will get passed, and if they eventually do, it will be years and years down the line.

Peter.if only Bernie supporters understood this. if he wins, it doesn't mean boom, free college, free everything right away. none of his ridiculous plans will get passed, and if they eventually do, it will be years and years down the line.

KravtZAll of his free ideas involve spending...and taking that money from hard working americans.

K-Dot.Grr. I hate this attack on any Democratic policy. Its not like these ideas are done to make the citizen pay more money. They are always designed to minimize costs. Take healthcare for instance. Yeah, your taxes are going to be higher, but you won't be spending as much as if it were privatized. This kind of thinking is so simple, I don't know why people act like the government is just trying to steal their money.

Oh, and Obama is gonna take all of your guns and ammo too, better buy more right?

californiagrownI don't currently pay for my health insurance and I can get surgery next week if I want and done need it. In a fully socialized system I'd have to pay taxes, and would have to have the govt sign off on when and if a surgery was needed.

onenerdykidSo let's not blame Bernie (not saying that you are), let's blame the dickbags who will oppose any measure simply because it did not originate from their side of the aisle.

iLLbiLLyBernie's #1 policy is to get corporation corruption out of politics. If that's all he is able to do in 4 years, it will be a successful presidency.

DreddSteveThey should, because he says it outright in his speeches. He has said multiple times that if we vote back in the same congress, nothing will change regardless of who the president is (assuming a democrat wins). Nobody who is actually paying attention is this naive.

robbinJAHoodHe's the only candidate that gives even half a shit about the environment and the fact that if we don't change the way we live we won't have a viable planet to live on

Ski_Alottbh even if he doesn't succeed in passing all of his policies, id prefer that over someone who didnt try at all...

J.D.Bernie supporters are the Democratic equivalent of the Tea Party. Just as brazenly impractical, just as sure of their own moral authority, just as mile-wide-inch-deep in their thinking. The Tea Party has outlandish ideas like a 10% flat tax to buy your vote with money, Bernie has free state college. Neither makes any sort of fiscal sense.

Peter.if only Bernie supporters understood this. if he wins, it doesn't mean boom, free college, free everything right away. none of his ridiculous plans will get passed, and if they eventually do, it will be years and years down the line.

brov1im not saying it would be bernies fault that there would be an impasse. im saying that we should vote for someone who is less likely to cause one

K-Dot.Grr. I hate this attack on any Democratic policy. Its not like these ideas are done to make the citizen pay more money. They are always designed to minimize costs. Take healthcare for instance. Yeah, your taxes are going to be higher, but you won't be spending as much as if it were privatized. This kind of thinking is so simple, I don't know why people act like the government is just trying to steal their money.

Oh, and Obama is gonna take all of your guns and ammo too, better buy more right?

S.J.WHow on earth does proposing universal health care and free college make Bernie some radical left wing version of the Tea party??? Bernies ideas for universal health care and college are literally a reality in every other developed nation in the world. But you want to talk about fiscal sense? Investing in education at any level will return an investment of around six dollars. Give or take. Education isn't just free shit, it's investing in our future to create a more educated work force. Can you see the correlation between America's lack of education spending and their literacy rate of 86% And America also spends the most money on health care in the world as well. Now is every other developed nation in the world batshit crazy left wing socialist or is America just behind the times?

.MASSHOLE.Designed to minimize costs? I would beg to differ as it depends on the system.

Many economists have come out to oppose Bernie's plans, saying that he is actually underestimating the costs of his proposals and that the resulting programs will put a good portion of the burden on the middle and lower classes.


Bernie wants a single payer system does he not? That is VERY different than a universal healthcare system. It is a sub-type, there are many different ways to approach universal healthcare. I hope you realize this.

Your arguments infuriate me. You are trying to fit a country that is about as diverse both socially and economically as Europe combined into a box that fits neatly. It is not that simple.

Does American healthcare and education need reforms? Yes, it does. But to approach it like European countries do is like trying to fix a circular peg into a square hole. It won't work no matter how hard you try. You need to find the hole that fits it.

S.J.Wawwww I'm making you angry. That makes me happy.