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BWalmer
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I was kind of away from NS for a while during the fall to finish up my final semester of college, but I feel like even still I would have seen something about this before. XGames just released an edit with Henrik and he's doing some pretty fucked up stuff in it. Including a rodeo/flat/cork/who the fuck knows 180 safety at 2:52 that seems to break physics into a million pieces. Either this is new footage, or I've been even more out of it that I thought...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14643836
Jan 27 2016 3:54PM
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FrenchFry
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eheathA flat/rodeo 5 is a backflip with a 180 that is off axis. A flip is 360 plus the 180 rotation = flat/rodeo 5.


Yo stop arguing about this man. You can't win. Haha jesus. What do you do all day to have the time to argue with kids about what flip Henrik is doing. WHO FUCKING CARES, it was sick.
Jan 28 2016 3:22PM
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btedeschi
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This whole arguement about what trick Henrik did already happened 27 weeks ago when he posted a vid of him doing the same trick on roller blades into a foam pit.
Jan 28 2016 3:30PM
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DIX~
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eheathA flat/rodeo 5 is a backflip with a 180 that is off axis. A flip is 360 plus the 180 rotation = flat/rodeo 5.


Nah. A rodeo 5 is a 540 degree rotation around an axis that we've as skiers decided to call "rodeo". It's not a backflip 180, that's why we call it a rodeo
Jan 28 2016 3:32PM
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eheath
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FrenchFryYo stop arguing about this man. You can't win. Haha jesus. What do you do all day to have the time to argue with kids about what flip Henrik is doing. WHO FUCKING CARES, it was sick.


im not agruing, im stating fact, not my fault these guys are clueless. You are also clueless because were not even talking about henrik.
Jan 28 2016 3:37PM
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FrenchFry
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eheathim not agruing, im stating fact, not my fault these guys are clueless. You are also clueless because were not even talking about henrik.


You're just butt hurt angry guy hey.
Jan 28 2016 3:38PM
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eheath
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FrenchFryYou're just butt hurt angry guy hey.


I'm not angry at all, I haven't used a single exclamation point, I'm simply trying to educate, ive been doing tricks since most of you were in diapers :)
Jan 28 2016 3:43PM
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FrenchFry
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eheathI'm not angry at all, I haven't used a single exclamation point, I'm simply trying to educate, ive been doing tricks since most of you were in diapers :)[/QUOTE :)
Jan 28 2016 4:13PM
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Phil-X-
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I might be the worst member on here when it comes to technical trick names, but eheath youre def wrong on this one.


That being said, this is a great hype video. Henny is one of the most genuine people I have had the pleasure of hanging out with. I cant wait to see how he does
Jan 28 2016 4:15PM
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eheath
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Phil-X-I might be the worst member on here when it comes to technical trick names, but eheath youre def wrong on this one.


That being said, this is a great hype video. Henny is one of the most genuine people I have had the pleasure of hanging out with. I cant wait to see how he does


ok :(

but yeah the video is fucking hype
Jan 28 2016 4:16PM
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Phil-X-
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eheathok :(

but yeah the video is fucking hype


Made me stoked for the xgames, is this hype thanks to the NS x Mnt Dew Collab? Did you film this? (thought it was NSxXgames, awk.)
Jan 28 2016 4:23PM
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cb27.
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DIX~Dude by your logic a flat 5 should be called a flat 9. Flips don't count as spins, if somebody did a backflip and landed switch would you call it a backflip 540? Of course not, because it's a backflip 180.


No that would be a 5. eheath is right in that case.
Jan 28 2016 5:15PM
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jca
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DIX~Dude by your logic a flat 5 should be called a flat 9. Flips don't count as spins, if somebody did a backflip and landed switch would you call it a backflip 540? Of course not, because it's a backflip 180.


an off axis backflip 180 can either be a rodeo 5 or underflip 5 depending on which way you spin. Just like how a back full (back flip 360) is a dspin 7, underflip 7 or cork 7 depending on how it's thrown.

but to me, Henrik's trick is fully a flat 180 in my eyes. there's no flip in a true flatspin so flat 180 is definitely possible, it looks exactly like half a true flat 3.
Jan 29 2016 2:50PM
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KneeDrop
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So what it's not technically a flat 180, couldn't everyone agree based on a flat 3/flat 5 that 'flat 180' is the best description of the trick? What else would you call it?
Jan 29 2016 3:56PM
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freewillie
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What a cluster...
Jan 29 2016 4:34PM
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filipoio
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Lets just stop this debate with agreeing on that eheath is wrong. And a total dick.
Jan 29 2016 4:40PM
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hemlockjibber8
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eheathlike I said if you watch a mark abma or Eric Pollard flat 3, they're still 'flipping' just not necessarily inverted. Just because you don't go inverted doesn't mean you're not flipping and doing a 360 through that flip.


Dumbest thing I have ever heard and discredits you from any further discussion regarding tricks.

Calum went inverted in his video, as did Henrik. To not see that you have to be blind.

A real flat 3 is what Andy Mahre did in Idea and what Pollard used to do. Refer to JF Cusson for a flat spin definition.

These off axis back flips have been called a flat 3 since Freeskier Mag labeled Pete Olenick doing them back in the day. It's been a joke since then. They are off axis back flips. Just because the rotation is different doesn't mean the same trick can be thrown completely different ways. However, it is common place to call Wack flips flat 3s to humour the stupid and save an argument. Fine. But don't use that logic to determine other tricks. TJ's flat 5 bow and arrow to these wack flip flat 3s? Completely different.
Jan 29 2016 5:00PM
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