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Should I throw in the towel on full tilts?

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doot
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I snagged a cheap pair of new ft classics at the end of last season, and loved them during spring. However, now that winter's in (almost) full swing and I'm hucking big stuff again I just... don't like them. I can't quite place it but I just don't feel like I have any control. I'm an aggressive freeskier and they just aren't really working for me.

I have a few hundred bucks to spare, I could probably buy new boots. I know there are a few modifications I could make to the boots to give me more control, but is it worth it to spend all the money? Has anyone else felt the same about full tilts?

So, should I invest in booster straps, etc. to make them work, or just cut my losses and buy new boots?
Jan 25 2016 8:15PM
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gnar_whal
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See kids? Perfect example of what happens when you don't go to a bootfitter. In all seriousness my suggestions would be to get full tilts
Jan 25 2016 8:17PM
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Pachankz
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Man everyday full tilt complaints around here, I say if your an aggressive all mountain freeride skier go for something new , I love my technica Cochise pro 130's .
Jan 25 2016 8:31PM
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doot
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gnar_whalSee kids? Perfect example of what happens when you don't go to a bootfitter. In all seriousness my suggestions would be to get full tilts


I went to a bootfitter, they vouched for them. Like I said, I used to love 'em, and they fit me fine... but thanks for the suggestion
Jan 25 2016 8:48PM
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bibs_skibum
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you could get some stiffer tongues and booster straps
Jan 25 2016 9:07PM
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marrows
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Dalbello
Jan 25 2016 9:21PM
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CharlzHub
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duct tape and zipties can fix anything.

if you still feel out of control, you didn't use enough duct tape and zipties.
Jan 25 2016 9:27PM
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gnar_whal
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masterofnoneI went to a bootfitter, they vouched for them. Like I said, I used to love 'em, and they fit me fine... but thanks for the suggestion


They vouched for them, but were they fitted to your foot? Insoles and a heat mold make a world of a difference.
Jan 25 2016 9:29PM
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doot
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gnar_whalThey vouched for them, but were they fitted to your foot? Insoles and a heat mold make a world of a difference.


Yeah I got them molded, might look at insoles
Jan 25 2016 9:46PM
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Pachankz
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masterofnoneYeah I got them molded, might look at insoles


Problem is full tilts are a cabrio 3 piece shell and are laterally soft , work great in the park but no so much for aggressive freeride skiing. Plastics are cheap, tend to break. Don't waste any more money on trying to band aid them up.
Look for a boot that's meant for hard charging.
Jan 25 2016 10:21PM
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Brocka_Flocka
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Time To Man Up
Jan 25 2016 10:41PM
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Negromancer
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I would try a stiffer tongue before switching boots. Also do you have a custom footbed, getting your foot in the correct position in the boot through a footbed will give you a lot more control.
Jan 25 2016 11:51PM
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NH_OPERATOR
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Just go to the store and start trying things on that fit your stiffness requirements. A good fitting all mountain boot is better than a poor fitting park boot.
Jan 25 2016 11:53PM
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Jack_the_tuner
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Brocka_Flocka

Time To Man Up

^This, they aren't just for racers anymore, haha. They have changed there foot shape over the past few years and offer two different lasts. Regular and low volume. Worth a try if you really want a high performance free ride boot.
If you like the design of the Full tilt (i.e.- the angled buckle at the ankle and flip up tongue) but want a little bit more boot for sending, I like the Dalbello Krypton pro... (my boot of choice most days)
Jan 26 2016 12:59AM
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Jaybrtn
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I just picked up a pair of k2 Pinnacle 130s. Got the molded sole and liner, and after a few days breaking them in they're great.
Jan 26 2016 2:02AM
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doot
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Jack_the_tuner^This, they aren't just for racers anymore, haha. They have changed there foot shape over the past few years and offer two different lasts. Regular and low volume. Worth a try if you really want a high performance free ride boot.
If you like the design of the Full tilt (i.e.- the angled buckle at the ankle and flip up tongue) but want a little bit more boot for sending, I like the Dalbello Krypton pro... (my boot of choice most days)


what year are your dalbellos from? If I can't sell my full tilts I'll probably have to get the 2014 model...
Jan 26 2016 4:03PM
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saskskier
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I will add to the get some 'man boots' recommendations. I picked these up, got them fitted and they have been great, although the footbed arch was a bit high, so just recently got them ground down a bit and it's made a world of difference.

Jan 26 2016 4:12PM
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KravtZ
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Jack_the_tuner^This, they aren't just for racers anymore, haha. They have changed there foot shape over the past few years and offer two different lasts. Regular and low volume. Worth a try if you really want a high performance free ride boot.
If you like the design of the Full tilt (i.e.- the angled buckle at the ankle and flip up tongue) but want a little bit more boot for sending, I like the Dalbello Krypton pro... (my boot of choice most days)


Recently switched from a Krypton to a traditional boot (Nordica Patron Pro's...there old top of the line freeride boot). Amazing boot and love it. That being said I really do miss the Krypton 3 piece flex pattern. But I find I perform better in the patron pro's just due to stance and how aggressive they are. Also for some reason my krypon's always leaked water in the front in which was annoying. None the less great boot would go back in a heartbeat if they were cheap enough
Jan 26 2016 4:17PM
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rozboon
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PachankzProblem is full tilts are a cabrio 3 piece shell and are laterally soft , work great in the park but no so much for aggressive freeride skiing. Plastics are cheap, tend to break. Don't waste any more money on trying to band aid them up.
Look for a boot that's meant for hard charging.


Can we all just take a second and remember what boots Seth Morrison exclusively wore? And I mean before FT even existed...
Jan 26 2016 4:55PM
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CabbyArrant
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I have a pair of the classics and while I like them for park I find that even when I crank the buckles down as tight as possible they are just so freaking soft. my ankle also doesn't want to stay in place even though the shell is the correct size and liners have been molded
Jan 26 2016 5:16PM
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Pachankz
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rozboonCan we all just take a second and remember what boots Seth Morrison exclusively wore? And I mean before FT even existed...


That exact thought has come to mind, only answer I can come up with, I met Seth once , he's insanely tiny in person, he's light , and short . His k2 skis were always soft too. Guy must like soft gear .
Jan 26 2016 6:26PM
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saskskier
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PachankzThat exact thought has come to mind, only answer I can come up with, I met Seth once , he's insanely tiny in person, he's light , and short . His k2 skis were always soft too. Guy must like soft gear .


It's like watching Hoji drop 50ft cliffs in tech bindings and boots. I get the impression that for the most part, pros are tiny people.
Jan 26 2016 7:41PM
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gabew34
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unless they are 2017 boots they are trash and you should give them away, they dont work
Jan 26 2016 9:37PM
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Jack_the_tuner
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masterofnonewhat year are your dalbellos from? If I can't sell my full tilts I'll probably have to get the 2014 model...

Mine are a few years old, either 2014, or 2013... can't remember. I really like them... getting really close to needing new ones, mainly because of the lug soles wearing. I have already replaced the liners once. (I do work at a resort though so I burn through gear, boots on at least 3-5 days a week from november through may).
Jan 28 2016 9:05PM
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