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lolergasm
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I want to buy new ski boots cause the ones in using are from 2008 (technical Diablo flame). Does anyone have the 2015 atomic hawk 2.0 130? It's on sale on Evo.com for 254.97 so I'm really tempted to buy them. Any reviews on how it feels in the park? If there are any boot suggestions let me get em.
Jan 12 2016 2:04PM
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baggis123
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dont buy boots online, go to a boot fitter!
Jan 12 2016 2:06PM
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lolergasm
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Planning on going to a boot fitter to get the new boots professionally fitted to my feet.
Jan 12 2016 2:09PM
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KravtZ
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If you have money to blow and can spend more...nothing wrong with buying online. I know its heavily looked against on this site...I bought some sick nordica's online on a huge close out sale. Awesome boot and fit me pretty well out of the box. Spend another $100 on bootwork at the store (which I buy a ton of stuff anyways from) and they were more than happy to help me out with some work.

That being said...I purchased 3 pairs of boots online and returned 2 of them. So I had almost $1000 on credit for a whlie idk if you financially could do that or not. But in the long run...still saved myself 50% off the price of a new pair of boots
Jan 12 2016 3:01PM
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profa_212
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lolergasmPlanning on going to a boot fitter to get the new boots professionally fitted to my feet.


Just get them from the fitter then. It will save you a lot of trouble in the long run.
Jan 12 2016 3:55PM
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Pachankz
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lolergasmPlanning on going to a boot fitter to get the new boots professionally fitted to my feet.

Doesn't work like that .
There's many major factors to be taken into account besides length.
Buy them from the boot fitter . Buying boots online is a bad idea man . Don't get sucked in by the cheap price.
Jan 12 2016 4:18PM
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lolergasm
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That cheap price is soooooo tempting 😫. Just looked up the closest ABB fitter and the closest one is ski net sports. Yelp reviews make him sound like a dick
Jan 12 2016 4:26PM
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Bogs
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The fact that you're asking for boot suggestions online tells me you have no idea what the fuck you're doing, which tells me that you really should go to a bootfitter.

And you're jumping from a 90 flex boot to a 130 flex boot? I'm guessing you've grown a lot or become a much better skier?

Anyway, go to a bootfitter.
Jan 12 2016 4:39PM
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lolergasm
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Fk it all. I'm going to a boot fitter. Thanks guys
Jan 12 2016 4:47PM
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funkynuggz
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lolergasmThat cheap price is soooooo tempting 😫. Just looked up the closest ABB fitter and the closest one is ski net sports. Yelp reviews make him sound like a dick


jus buy them
Jan 12 2016 4:48PM
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Pachankz
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Yeah a 90 flex to a 130 is a massive leaps . 130 is super stiff for the hardest of charging skiers .
Jan 12 2016 4:53PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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lolergasmThat cheap price is soooooo tempting 😫. Just looked up the closest ABB fitter and the closest one is ski net sports. Yelp reviews make him sound like a dick


Yelp reviews have to be taken with a grain of salt. Also, bootfitters are a funny bunch. You get kinda cynical when you people bring their brand new boots in, and you tell them that they wasted their money because of X/Y/Z.
Jan 12 2016 5:40PM
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Julius_Steezer
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Tbf, if you get boots online, try them on and see if they're roughly ok (ie. Theyre within the ballpark and just need some minor adjustments) then why not do it? Worst comes to worst, they're clearly horrendous and you just send them back for a refund

I mean if there's a $100 difference between online price and shop price then that's probably worth it even if the process takes a bit longer
Jan 13 2016 12:40PM
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Peter.
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lolergasmFk it all. I'm going to a boot fitter. Thanks guys


you can always go to a boot fitter and see what they fit you in, and then check online for a cheaper price. a bunch of stores will price match for you
Jan 13 2016 2:08PM
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BoardSideDown
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Peter.you can always go to a boot fitter and see what they fit you in, and then check online for a cheaper price. a bunch of stores will price match for you


This is true, but this is also how we put good boot fitters out of business. If you use a ski shops services, and they were helpful, you should give them your business.

Online retailers are great if you already know what you want, but the ski industry will always need brick and mortar retail stores.
Jan 13 2016 2:36PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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^^ true that... don't go to a boot fitter if you're not planning to buy their boots. not good for their shop's business.
Jan 13 2016 3:27PM
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BenWhit
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PachankzDoesn't work like that .
There's many major factors to be taken into account besides length.
Buy them from the boot fitter . Buying boots online is a bad idea man . Don't get sucked in by the cheap price.


You can make a fairly well informed decision and safely buy boots online if you are familiar with your foot size, last, instep height, and the features of the boot.

This "Go to a bootfitter" auto-response from everyone is all well and good, but it really is not a reality for some people.

For instance, I understand that I do well in a 100 last, 130 flex, medium-height instep, so I bought a pair of Nordica Ace 3 Star boots for $75 that were used 10 times. 10 TIMES. I dropped from footboards from my prior boots in and badda-bing, badda-boom, I had a $600 boot for $75 dollars that fit just dandy. I'll take them to a fitter to have the liner remolded when time allows, but my all in cost will never exceed $200.

Not every fitter is a good fitter. Not every user is a moron that can't make a well-informed decision. Not every kid can spend $500+ for new boots.
Jan 13 2016 3:34PM
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BenWhit
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BoardSideDownThis is true, but this is also how we put good boot fitters out of business. If you use a ski shops services, and they were helpful, you should give them your business.

Online retailers are great if you already know what you want, but the ski industry will always need brick and mortar retail stores.


Mex_LineJib^a^^ true that... don't go to a boot fitter if you're not planning to buy their boots. not good for their shop's business.


if they're a good bootfitter, they won't go out of business.

Also, most shops sell gear on consignment, meaning they only pay for what they sell and send most unsold inventory back to the wholesaler. If one out of every 10 fittings is someone who bought boots online at a lower price, they aren't going to die.
Jan 13 2016 3:37PM
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Pachankz
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BenWhitYou can make a fairly well informed decision and safely buy boots online if you are familiar with your foot size, last, instep height, and the features of the boot.

This "Go to a bootfitter" auto-response from everyone is all well and good, but it really is not a reality for some people.

For instance, I understand that I do well in a 100 last, 130 flex, medium-height instep, so I bought a pair of Nordica Ace 3 Star boots for $75 that were used 10 times. 10 TIMES. I dropped from footboards from my prior boots in and badda-bing, badda-boom, I had a $600 boot for $75 dollars that fit just dandy. I'll take them to a fitter to have the liner remolded when time allows, but my all in cost will never exceed $200.

Not every fitter is a good fitter. Not every user is a moron that can't make a well-informed decision. Not every kid can spend $500+ for new boots.



Yeah your speaking from a well informed skiers perspective, 98% of noobs don't understand those factors or how to discern through the variants of different brands, for example, not all boots listed 100 last are the same by any means. So , if they are fairly knowledgeable in their feet and the various brands differences them sure you can take a gamble but in most cases a boot fitter is the way to go .
Jan 13 2016 4:17PM
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BenWhit
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PachankzYeah your speaking from a well informed skiers perspective, 98% of noobs don't understand those factors or how to discern through the variants of different brands, for example, not all boots listed 100 last are the same by any means. So , if they are fairly knowledgeable in their feet and the various brands differences them sure you can take a gamble but in most cases a boot fitter is the way to go .


you're not wrong, but it is just not the reality for a lot of skiers. I've had varying experiences with boot-fitters (that were highly rated) and been put in boots that I damn well did not belong in.
Jan 13 2016 4:23PM
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Pachankz
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BenWhityou're not wrong, but it is just not the reality for a lot of skiers. I've had varying experiences with boot-fitters (that were highly rated) and been put in boots that I damn well did not belong in.


A boot fitter doesn't have a crystal ball. It's on you to know the market and have a range of boots/ style you're looking for and work with him in coordination to achieve a satisfactory result.
Jan 13 2016 6:40PM
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onenerdykid
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BenWhitAlso, most shops sell gear on consignment, meaning they only pay for what they sell and send most unsold inventory back to the wholesaler.


This is completely false. When a shop orders 100 boots, they own those 100 boots. Manufacturers/brands do not generally accept returns, and the shop will have to pay restocking fees. Very, very rarely are products ordered on consignment.
Jan 14 2016 7:03AM
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BenWhit
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onenerdykidThis is completely false. When a shop orders 100 boots, they own those 100 boots. Manufacturers/brands do not generally accept returns, and the shop will have to pay restocking fees. Very, very rarely are products ordered on consignment.


I am going to default to your answer seeing as you have insider knowledge of the industry, but I have been told otherwise by some local shops. Perhaps this was an outlier.
Jan 14 2016 9:21AM
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