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First Quad in the X-Games?

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StuckWithOH
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Who else thinks that its almost certain this is the year we will see the first official quad cork be attempted in the 2016 X-Games? Because the kicker gets bigger and bigger every year as well as the tricks, I can see it happening.
Jan 11 2016 10:25AM
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JEWmanji
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I'm wondering who would huck it though?
Jan 11 2016 10:31AM
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bait
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StuckWithOHWho else thinks that its almost certain this is the year we will see the first official quad cork be attempted in the 2016 X-Games? Because the kicker gets bigger and bigger every year as well as the tricks, I can see it happening.


I hope No one does one. Vincent Gagner did the best thing that happened to big air in a while. He won with the most style and ease.
Jan 11 2016 10:38AM
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gnar_whal
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I doubt it but its possible.
Jan 11 2016 10:44AM
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FIRETHECANNONS
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I'm sure a snowboarder will... not sure about any skiers though.
Jan 11 2016 11:32AM
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steeze_louise
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I doubt any skiers will, if they were going to they would most likely try it outside of a competition first.
Jan 11 2016 12:57PM
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Dddsz
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I hope not... but you can expect to see too much spinning and not enough style.
Jan 11 2016 1:04PM
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elcornholio
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I_BohrmannI doubt any skiers will, if they were going to they would most likely try it outside of a competition first.


Henrik sent the first nose butter triple in x games.
Jan 11 2016 5:00PM
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steeze_louise
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elcornholioHenrik sent the first nose butter triple in x games.


but didn't somebody do a triple before that though
Jan 11 2016 5:23PM
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ascent_studios
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Someone will do it outside of competition way before anyone does it in comps.
Jan 11 2016 5:33PM
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Slush
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The first skier who does a quad in the X games is dead to NS
Jan 11 2016 5:46PM
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tschums
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I_Bohrmannbut didn't somebody do a triple before that though


Yes but adding the nosebudder is an entirely different trick
Jan 11 2016 5:58PM
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Mr.Bishop
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StuckWithOHWho else thinks that its almost certain this is the year we will see the first official quad cork be attempted in the 2016 X-Games? Because the kicker gets bigger and bigger every year as well as the tricks, I can see it happening.


The jumps at the X-games aren't even close to being good for quads. They basically would need to create aerials jumps, which is what massive flipping needs.

I hope that there is no jumps for quads, no attempt at quads and as a matter of fact people back off and focus on progressing style as much as they've been focusing on technicality.
Jan 11 2016 6:04PM
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saskskier
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Mr.BishopThe jumps at the X-games aren't even close to being good for quads. They basically would need to create aerials jumps, which is what massive flipping needs.

I hope that there is no jumps for quads, no attempt at quads and as a matter of fact people back off and focus on progressing style as much as they've been focusing on technicality.


#jossiforpresident
Jan 11 2016 6:08PM
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rememberscott
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I hope someone throws a quad this year it will be legendary. Or some kind of butter/revert included would be awesome to see as well. Everyone that hates progression and hopes they won't see a quad is a pussy. Style can be a beautiful thing but the better technique wins over every time.
Jan 11 2016 6:55PM
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addie.
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I_BohrmannI doubt any skiers will, if they were going to they would most likely try it outside of a competition first.


Let's say someone does throw a quad outside of competition (hypothetically) they might want to debut it at the x games just so it gets that much more publicity. I mean it's a quad so everyone would freak out regardless if it was in a comp or not, but still. I think someone might think about doing that.
Jan 11 2016 7:33PM
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freestyler540
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Mr.BishopThe jumps at the X-games aren't even close to being good for quads. They basically would need to create aerials jumps, which is what massive flipping needs.

I hope that there is no jumps for quads, no attempt at quads and as a matter of fact people back off and focus on progressing style as much as they've been focusing on technicality.


Even on a tripple kicker jump, there have been very few attempts. If quad are coming out, these guys would have to strap base jumping rigs.
Jan 11 2016 8:19PM
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CabbyArrant
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HP123I hope someone throws a quad this year it will be legendary. Or some kind of butter/revert included would be awesome to see as well. Everyone that hates progression and hopes they won't see a quad is a pussy. Style can be a beautiful thing but the better technique wins over every time.

There's a difference between Steeze and stupid. Triples are toeing the line, a quad is miles across that line.
Jan 11 2016 8:59PM
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Emmett1
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I think on the slopestyle side of things this year at X-games someone will throw back to back I know at least Geopper has both ways and maybe Joss as well but not quite sure.
Jan 11 2016 9:41PM
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Mr.Bishop
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freestyler540Even on a tripple kicker jump, there have been very few attempts. If quad are coming out, these guys would have to strap base jumping rigs.


You just need a fuck ton of kick. Aerials jumps are built with 78 degree takeoffs and 20' decks for a reason. It throws you into a flipping rotation. Those guys only go say 40' horizontally, but from height of their trick to landing its something nuts like 65'.

Aerials literally has done all this before. If we want quads, dudes should just start hitting aerials jumps. They're built for it.

of course they also already figured out it was too dangerous and their sport was buried with the pursuit of one more flip/spin...

But that is none of my business.
Jan 11 2016 9:48PM
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tdollo
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FIRETHECANNONSI'm sure a snowboarder will... not sure about any skiers though.


Why is this post down voted? Snowboarders have done quads already this year. Snowboarders threw triples in xgames before skiers did, so there's a good possibility someone on a board will try a quad
Jan 11 2016 9:53PM
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Mr.Bishop
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tdolloWhy is this post down voted? Snowboarders have done quads already this year. Snowboarders threw triples in xgames before skiers did, so there's a good possibility someone on a board will try a quad


Skiers did quads way before it was cool.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/740232/Frank-Bare-quadruple-flip-on-skis-1983
Jan 11 2016 11:00PM
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rememberscott
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Mr.BishopSkiers did quads way before it was cool.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/740232/Frank-Bare-quadruple-flip-on-skis-1983


was this shit not epic as all fuck back in the day? And you've basically been saying quads nowadays aren't cool/don't have any place in newschoolers. I'm sorry I don't understand your logic here.
Jan 11 2016 11:40PM
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Mr.Bishop
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HP123was this shit not epic as all fuck back in the day? And you've basically been saying quads nowadays aren't cool/don't have any place in newschoolers. I'm sorry I don't understand your logic here.


It sort of depends on your meta view of the situation.

Sure, in '83 people were blown away by this. It was some ground breaking 'progression' in terms of trick difficulty. There were a few other aerialists that did the same thing, just not on video.

However, this was also close to the time that aerials experienced its downfall.

Until the early '80s, aerials was badass. It was basically big air... with people slinging tricks, bigtime pros, huge money and dudes winning shit like corvettes in contests. The hot dogging movement was fun as fuck - most of it was dudes who partied their brains out, and focused on the artistic side of skiing vs. the mathematic side where more rotations wins.

However, things got crazy. As soon as you hit trips and quads.... people start dying/getting paralyzed. There was a rash of big contests where people got really hurt / dead. Kids everywhere were mimicking these pros in the air sites (read: parks of yesterday) and dying / paralysis / injuries ensued in droves.

The insurance companies wouldn't touch it as this happened. Air sites everywhere were mowed down, and rules of who was allowed to do tricks cropped up everywhere. FIS stepped in.

By going to far with the human capabilities for survival, we created a sport that needed a high level of regulation in order to keep the people interested in it safe. As such, Aerials is what you see it as today. Sanctioning bodies won't allow quads because they realize the carnage associated with letting athletes get that one more flip in. Nobody wants to get into it because its to hard for anyone without a super rich background to get the level of training necessary to get to an olympic level.

So I dislike this aspect of the sport, because its already led to a downfall of one freestyle movement... I don't want to see history repeated and let it be the downfall of another.

So that is where I'm coming from, if it makes sense.
Jan 12 2016 12:25AM
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yungsteeze
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i would hope that if a skier was able to huck it and get a quad around the judges would account for the lack of style and how shitty itd probably end up looking (wishful thinking). being at big air, they really didnt seem like they had enough time for a quad with the jump last year. none of the triples really looked floaty and nobody opened up at the end. in order to make it they would have to have a bigger and poppier jump and send it to gucci (which is crazy as shit on that jump). i overheard abm last year say that it was painful to take it to the third line in the landing. itd be crazy and i dont really want it to happen, but i guess i dont care that much if it does.
Jan 12 2016 12:49AM
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John18_6
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A very flat switch quad wouldn't be as dangerous or look disgusting. Just stating facts.
Jan 12 2016 3:03AM
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StuckWithOH
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Nick Geopper did a quad into an airbag
Jan 12 2016 10:00AM
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funkynuggz
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StuckWithOHNick Geopper did a quad into an airbag


bet it was ugly
Jan 12 2016 10:37AM
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skeetskeet9000
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Skiers did quads way before it was cool.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/740232/Frank-Bare-quadruple-flip-on-skis-1983[/QUOTE]

They were never cool
Jan 12 2016 1:13PM
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KravtZ
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I think comps these days needs at least one jump required to be judged on style. I remember maybe a couple years back some snowboard pipe comps required a straight air in it. Forget which one though remember watching it on tv/online
Jan 12 2016 1:34PM
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Lus146
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People still watch the X games?
Jan 12 2016 2:14PM
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rememberscott
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Mr.BishopIt sort of depends on your meta view of the situation.

Sure, in '83 people were blown away by this. It was some ground breaking 'progression' in terms of trick difficulty. There were a few other aerialists that did the same thing, just not on video.

However, this was also close to the time that aerials experienced its downfall.

Until the early '80s, aerials was badass. It was basically big air... with people slinging tricks, bigtime pros, huge money and dudes winning shit like corvettes in contests. The hot dogging movement was fun as fuck - most of it was dudes who partied their brains out, and focused on the artistic side of skiing vs. the mathematic side where more rotations wins.

However, things got crazy. As soon as you hit trips and quads.... people start dying/getting paralyzed. There was a rash of big contests where people got really hurt / dead. Kids everywhere were mimicking these pros in the air sites (read: parks of yesterday) and dying / paralysis / injuries ensued in droves.

The insurance companies wouldn't touch it as this happened. Air sites everywhere were mowed down, and rules of who was allowed to do tricks cropped up everywhere. FIS stepped in.

By going to far with the human capabilities for survival, we created a sport that needed a high level of regulation in order to keep the people interested in it safe. As such, Aerials is what you see it as today. Sanctioning bodies won't allow quads because they realize the carnage associated with letting athletes get that one more flip in. Nobody wants to get into it because its to hard for anyone without a super rich background to get the level of training necessary to get to an olympic level.

So I dislike this aspect of the sport, because its already led to a downfall of one freestyle movement... I don't want to see history repeated and let it be the downfall of another.

So that is where I'm coming from, if it makes sense.


Thanks for that insight, it certainly sucks seeing so many injuries...

But people nowadays are throwing quads off huge booters, still huge jumps but it isn't vertical up and straight drop like the aerials. Of course there will be danger either way but it almost seems aerial jumps would be more violent.

Aside from the actual jump aspect, nowadays the access to facilities and summer camps has little kids developing muscle memory like china trained robots. You would certainly expect a quad to be brought to the x games. And to try and forbid it is a true shame.

I love style just as much as anyone else, and with all the riders throwing the same rotations and flips it should play a more important role on the judging aspect of things, but to try and deny seeing some groundbreaking quad is beyond me.

jed mildon landed a quad on the bmx, billy morgan landed quad on snowboard, max parrot landed a quad as well, mike wilson throws quads off of 99 foot cliffs, frank bare did a quad triple twist at donner ranch ski area looking like a pencil. Are they all dumbasses for pushing the limit? Am I a dumbass for thinking its' tight? Maybe. But that's how I feel and I'm going to voice my opinion regardless.

#quadsaintforeveryone
Jan 12 2016 2:33PM
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The.Fish
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Triple misty?
Jan 12 2016 4:02PM
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M.M
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Fuck quads this would be pretty nuts
https://instagram.com/p/BAc7XRJuZgC/
Jan 12 2016 4:27PM
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PontusOlssonSNOW
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https://www.facebook.com/MikeRiddleSkiing/videos/1127101247301246/?theater
https://www.facebook.com/MikeRiddleSkiing/videos/1127101247301246/?theater
Jan 12 2016 5:39PM
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PontusOlssonSNOW
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PontusOlssonSNOWhttps://www.facebook.com/MikeRiddleSkiing/videos/1127101247301246/?theater
https://www.facebook.com/MikeRiddleSkiing/videos/1127101247301246/?theater


We'll may see a triple in pipe though.
Jan 12 2016 5:40PM
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Shaun White
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