Weird Binding setting

WillowsWent to the local ski shop to get my bindings adjusted for three skis (I don't my self enough to do this). They kept my skis for two weeks and charged me $100 which which seemed like quite a bit, but anyway the thing is that my bindings are set pretty weird. I'm 135lbs, 6' and a pretty avid skier. The settings are as follows:
Salomon STH 13 on Faction 2.0:
Right ski:
toe(Right) din 9
heel(Right) din 6
Toe(Left) din 9
Heel(Left) din 5

Griffons on a sickday 110 (mud on the skis when I got them back):
din 7 front and back on both skis

Nordica Firearrow 80 TI:
7 front and back on both skis

the adjustments on my factions left me quite puzzled

did they forget to do it or is there something i don't know. They said that they would wax the Factions as well, but there are no signs of that. The only thing that has changed with them is a 10cm long scratch in the base... I really don't want them to do anything else to my skis. Should I adjust the bindings myself (to din 7)?

rozboonWhen they tested the release force it was all jacked up so they adjusted the bindings until the release force was where it should be.

addie.I'm just very confused, but heres what I know:

1. whoever did your skis should get fired

2. should've asked ns before trying anything

McNocheWell this was zero help.

Minggso was this

marrowsAdmitting on this website that you don't know how to adjust your DINs, while simultaneously admitting too paying $100 for it is really asking for the responses you'll get.....

Either way you got fucked over. Could have bought a wax kit and a screwdriver for a quarter of that price lolo

gnar_whalYou paid 100 fucking dollars to get your dins changed? It takes less than 15 seconds and a screwdriver

rozboonThis thread makes my head hurt.

Really the tech should have noted something on the work order if the DINs had to be different.

One of 2 things has happened here:

1. The tech f*cked up and didn't adjust that set of bindings
2. When they tested the release force it was all jacked up so they adjusted the bindings until the release force was where it should be. The DIN number is 100% meaningless if the bindings aren't releasing at the force that they should be.
If this is the case, it's because of one of:
-Your boots are worn, causing weird inconsistent release, this should have manifested itself on your other bindings though but may not have due to different binding design
-The bindings are worn/faulty/the springs are old and sloppy
-The mount sucks
-The binding forward pressure and toe height isn't correctly set, resulting in shit release values

Either way, you paid good money for good work, I would check in with the shop before you listened to some complete and utter randoms on the internet. If you "just set them to 7" and it turns out the spring in the left heel has gone stiff and you end up with a release value equivalent to 9-10 DIN there is real potential for you to hurt yourself.

Willowsthe bindings are brand new. He didn't take my boots for adjustments. I asked him if he wouldn't be needing it, but he said that it wouldn't be necessary. I asked him about toe height, but he just looked at me and shook his head..

Shoey-SkiCorrect me if I'm wrong but I'm 90% sure they would need at least 1 boot to correctly get the job done seems like a red flag in my book

Shoey-SkiCorrect me if I'm wrong but I'm 90% sure they would need at least 1 boot to correctly get the job done seems like a red flag in my book

addie.I'm just very confused, but heres what I know:

1. whoever did your skis should get fired

2. should've asked ns before trying anything

SammyDubzno

no

Minggso was this

rozboonThis thread makes my head hurt.

Really the tech should have noted something on the work order if the DINs had to be different.

One of 2 things has happened here:

1. The tech f*cked up and didn't adjust that set of bindings
2. When they tested the release force it was all jacked up so they adjusted the bindings until the release force was where it should be. The DIN number is 100% meaningless if the bindings aren't releasing at the force that they should be.
If this is the case, it's because of one of:
-Your boots are worn, causing weird inconsistent release, this should have manifested itself on your other bindings though but may not have due to different binding design
-The bindings are worn/faulty/the springs are old and sloppy
-The mount sucks
-The binding forward pressure and toe height isn't correctly set, resulting in shit release values

Either way, you paid good money for good work, I would check in with the shop before you listened to some complete and utter randoms on the internet. If you "just set them to 7" and it turns out the spring in the left heel has gone stiff and you end up with a release value equivalent to 9-10 DIN there is real potential for you to hurt yourself.

addie.you don't think whoever worked on his bindings was completely inept? i mean you're entitled to your opinion but like... it doesn't sound like they did it right lol

freeskibum82those settings at 9 for the toe are way to high for you and a new binding based on what you said your height and weight were. I would honestly take the receipt back to them with the skis and the copy of your work form for the binding adjustment. If there was a problem, a good tech would have noted something on the sheet in the technician comments section. But even so, a 9 front and rear that low is a major red flag. Also, without the boots, he couldnt set the toe height correctly or twist/forward pressure test the boot. I would honestly get all your money back and never visit that shop again.

SammyDubzRead this^^^

Even if the tech did fuck up or whatever, firing him/her would be overboard.

And coming to NS asking about what release values and such to use is pretty much like asking "I have a size 9 foot what boot should I get?" Go to a shop. 99% of the time they have the knowledge and the machines to do the job much better than what some rando on NS says.

gnar_whalYou paid 100 fucking dollars to get your dins changed? It takes less than 15 seconds and a screwdriver

brett_fisherwtf just to adjust din
just get screw drive righty tighty and get it to read to where you want it

addie.I'm just very confused, but heres what I know:

1. whoever did your skis should get fired

2. should've asked ns before trying anything

Willowsthe bindings are brand new. He didn't take my boots for adjustments. I asked him if he wouldn't be needing it, but he said that it wouldn't be necessary. I asked him about toe height, but he just looked at me and shook his head..

brov1Wrong. he took his bindings in to get calibrated, which everyone should do every season to make sure your bindings are working in a safe manner

brov1Wrong. he took his bindings in to get calibrated, which everyone should do every season to make sure your bindings are working in a safe manner and which entails much more than just a screw driver



Nope.



Nope. NS does know some things about gear, but if you ask myself or any of the other ski techs site we will always say dont trust NS because we cant physically see or touch your skis to identify a problem. trust NS for very basic advice but always head to a shop with professionals to clarify.



This is extremely worrisome. to set your dins and calibrate your bindings the shop needs your boots 100% of the time. this is not even a question. if he set the bindings with that much variation without even having your boots, he shouldn't be working at a ski shop. sometimes i do see bindings with this much variation in din pressure, but that is only with very old bindings. new bindings should have perfect springs unless they are defective so i would get them calibrated at a different shop and if they are still all over the place, contact solomon. not to mention STHs do have a toe height setting which is one of the many reasons the shop needs your boots so since toe height wasn't set your skis are not very safe to use anyway. not to mention that unless you have tiny feet, your dins should either have been set to a 6.5 or a 6 not a 7, at which point you could have turned them up yourself.

brov1Wrong. he took his bindings in to get calibrated, which everyone should do every season to make sure your bindings are working in a safe manner and which entails much more than just a screw driver



Nope.



Nope. NS does know some things about gear, but if you ask myself or any of the other ski techs site we will always say dont trust NS because we cant physically see or touch your skis to identify a problem. trust NS for very basic advice but always head to a shop with professionals to clarify.



This is extremely worrisome. to set your dins and calibrate your bindings the shop needs your boots 100% of the time. this is not even a question. if he set the bindings with that much variation without even having your boots, he shouldn't be working at a ski shop. sometimes i do see bindings with this much variation in din pressure, but that is only with very old bindings. new bindings should have perfect springs unless they are defective so i would get them calibrated at a different shop and if they are still all over the place, contact solomon. not to mention STHs do have a toe height setting which is one of the many reasons the shop needs your boots so since toe height wasn't set your skis are not very safe to use anyway. not to mention that unless you have tiny feet, your dins should either have been set to a 6.5 or a 6 not a 7, at which point you could have turned them up yourself.

WillowsForgot to mention that I also had my soles grinded on two pairs plus wax for all. I really think the standard of american ski shop are way higher... They did not have my boot only my sole number. I know how to adjust DIN I just didn't want to do myself. The Factions are brand new and so are the bindings.