NYE attacks in Cologne, Germany

PeppermillRenoGod bless Donald Trump for having the balls to openly want to keep this trash out of AMerica.


Merkel is a global menace WAY worse than Hitler if you don't agree you have no respect for women and think sharia law is an appropriate way to live and you are a piece of shit.


Political correctness is frightening we are not all equal you fucks Western civilization and culture has been developed over centuries and taken time to get to where it is now (with many bumps/mistakes along the way) the muslims nations are a millennium behind the United States with the way they think women should live and cover themselves up.


Again you are scum and deserve to be spat on if you defend that trash or think letting Syrian migrants in is OK or make excuses for radical islam again you are trash fuck you I was raised by a single mother and respect women I do not condone this shit and as I said merkel is a bad intentioned Hitler at least Hitler loved the German people and wanted them to prevail over their neighbors (and was a dick wanting to enslave the Russians and all that but again he was looking out for his people.)

onenerdykidBelieve me when I say that at least 50% of your post is utter bullshit that I am being incredibly generous. Regardless of how this turns out, there is not a chance that Merkel is worse than Hitler. Until she sends as many people to the furnace, gas chamber, concentration camps as he did, don't even go there. It makes you look like a complete fool.

Letting in 10,000 Syrian refugees who have been vetted for 2 years into the USA resembles NOTHING to what is going on in Europe right now. First off the people who will be let into the USA are actual refugees, whereas in Europe it is a mix between refugees and random immigrants from all over Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Europe is an absolute cluster fuck in this regard- they don't know who is coming in and they are not being vetted because they cannot perform background checks on the million-plus people coming across the German border. Second, not one single refugee coming into the USA gets to pick their country of destination- the USA was randomly assigned by the refugee agency, not picked by the refugee. You should be more fearful of people coming in on student visas than by the refugees. These refugees (who are fleeing the terrorists by the way) should be seen as people whom we should embrace, welcome, and share our liberal ideas of freedom with. These are probably the most important Muslims to get on our side at the moment.

Donald Trump is a racist, a bigot, and a homophobe who encourages people to be violent against those who disagree with him. That is not America. That is Iran. That is Syria. And that is bullshit.

onenerdykidLetting in 10,000 Syrian refugees who have been vetted for 2 years into the USA resembles NOTHING to what is going on in Europe right now. First off the people who will be let into the USA are actual refugees, whereas in Europe it is a mix between refugees and random immigrants from all over Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Europe is an absolute cluster fuck in this regard- they don't know who is coming in and they are not being vetted because they cannot perform background checks on the million-plus people coming across the German border. Second, not one single refugee coming into the USA gets to pick their country of destination- the USA was randomly assigned by the refugee agency, not picked by the refugee. You should be more fearful of people coming in on student visas than by the refugees. These refugees (who are fleeing the terrorists by the way) should be seen as people whom we should embrace, welcome, and share our liberal ideas of freedom with. These are probably the most important Muslims to get on our side at the moment.

BortyHonestly don't even care to know what happened. Inb4 everyone jerks off to the deetz, or the news blasts it for coverage and everyone get's scared.

CampeadorThey're not long videos, but I'm sure you had better things to do anyway.

If you have any sisters or female relatives that you care about, then you probably should care.

BortyYeah because they probably won't hear about it if it's on national new in OTHER countries. If they're in Germany, they definitely won't hear about it. If they're on facebook they for sure won't hear about it.

It has nothing to do with having better things to do or not. There is no point in me watching it. But sure, share it on facebook and tag all your female friends so you can feel like you did something.

PeppermillRenoWe don't need them, we don't want them, these refugees bring nothing to the table and contribute nothing to us so they can fuck off way I see it.

californiagrownMan that is a totally unamerican thing to say. Our county's founding principles say the opposite thing.

CampeadorThe question I have is, how can you be so certain of the vetting process?

PeppermillRenoI wasn't talking about immigrants in general I was talking about these muslim opportunist economic migrants who are using the situation in Syria as their opportunity to illegally immigrate to the US/Europe. In particular the single men who have expensive cell phones and watches and are violent which seems to be the majority of them.

PCPRINCIPALThe biggest problem I see with muslim immigrants is that they don't want to abandon the culture that produced all the hatred. If they want to leave their country, that's fine, but resisting our culture and trying to hold onto theirs is a huge mistake and completely counterproductive. i had an Irania roommate who is A Hamas sympathizer. He use to talk so much shit about America while simultaneously being subsidized by our government for his education. imo the majority of Muslims do not like our country or us. This dudes mom lived with us for a month and she literally would not share a room with me. She'd rather let her food burn then share a kitchen with me. Muslim immigrants do not enjoy our company. They may want refuge from their horrible countries but they certainly don't want to be Americans.

onenerdykidNo human is without dignity and as such we have a direct moral duty to help other human beings who are in need because if we imagine ourselves in a similar situation (which is totally plausible) we would want the same done for us. If our country became ravaged by war and everything we knew was destroyed and overrun by terrorists, it would completely suck if Canada (for example) denied to help us in our time of need. We should extend our aid to such people because we would want it done for ourselves.

theBearJewCorrect me if Im wrong but isnt the "Canada" of Syria, meaning the gulf nations, not accepting refuges in? Even when places like Saudi Arabi has tons of tents and all that to house them? It bothers me that the countries with shared cultures and language dont want them.

PCPRINCIPALNo she literally wouldn't stay in the same room as me. its not a generalization. He is a post grad student at the U and he used to have LOTS of people over. They were very rude to me and wouldn't even acknowledge that my gf existed, because I was living in "HIS" apartment, they felt less alienated and therefore treated me differently. The Muslims who come here to be American are very very few.

claiming that this country doesn't have history and culture is really fucking ignorant. Yeah our ancestors were immigrants, but we've been bound together by a nation. My ancestors date back to 2 decades after the revolutionary war. My family has served in every war this country has fought. There is a very rich history and culture in this country. Just because you are unaware doesnt mean its not there. New immigrants must educated themselves on the history of this country or they will never understand why things are the way they are. Same goes for people born here.

pilgrims, pioneers, industry men, hard working immigrants, the land of opportunity, land of the free, home to capitalism, home of the brave etc...


The majority of Muslims are inherently ethnocentric due to the inclusiveness of the religion they grew up knowing.

Iranians don't like Americans. Saudis don't like Americans. Palestinians Don't like Americans.

for the record an immigrant is not a refugee. One was forced here, one was not.

PCPRINCIPALyou are taking the entire situation out of context

onenerdykidI mention that at the end of my post. Saudi Arabia has air conditioned, fire proof tents that can house over 3 million people for the purpose of the Mecca pilgrimage and they are not allowing a single one of them to be used for Syrian refugees. Completely disgraceful... unless if you think that there is a purpose for denying them entry, which is to purposefully push them into Europe...

californiagrownHow so? The Irish fled the potatoe famine and their influx led to the fear that their Catholicism would destroy this country for the same reasons you think Muslims will.

And you and I have very different experiences interacting with Arabs and Persians. Very different.

PCPRINCIPALWhere did i say they would destroy the nation?!!? You are making assumptions just to support your point. Did you miss that I mention he was a Hamas sympathizer? You do know what Hamas is right?


you've met persians?
you mean you've met Iranians.

Arabs?
Lets be more specific please. I think you are generalizing quite a few people who are very very different.


Im talking about an 27 year old Iranian nationalist who believes that America has deep rooted cultural problems, hates Jews, is extremely ethnocentric, and is subsidized by our government. Meaning our taxes pay for his entire existence

What are you talking about?

"America doesn't have culture"

yeah good point jackass

californiagrownAttack me personally when you can't refute the argument. Great strategy.

PCPRINCIPALWhere did i say they would destroy the nation?!!? You are making assumptions just to support your point. Did you miss that I mention he was a Hamas sympathizer? You do know what Hamas is right?

Im talking about an 27 year old Iranian nationalist who believes that America has deep rooted cultural problems, hates Jews, is extremely ethnocentric, and is subsidized by our government. Meaning our taxes pay for his entire existence

What are you talking about?

"America doesn't have culture"

yeah good point jackass

californiagrownOur culture is a mish mash of cultures. There is no way around it. You seem to think that American culture is and should stay anglocentric.

CampeadorNo, but our culture should always be rooted in the ideas of the Enlightenment.

There is no place for the backwards culture of Islam here.

californiagrownDoes Catholicism have any place here? The same things you are saying about Islam were said about the Irish when they came to the US.

Do you know what the enlightenment is?

nocturnalWhat you're saying is a fallacy and you know it. The Irish weren't coming over here blowing up buildings and attacking people oppressing women and homosexuals under the ira they were just unwanted. An absolutely Catholicism has no place in the United States in the government or in public.

californiagrownThe irish werent coming over here(in the 1800's AND catholic) oppressing women and homosexuals? Huh? did you write that and think, yup. thats a good, true sentence? Jesus.


To address your overall point- i agree that the terrorist aspect is new and troubling. I believe that a more strenuous screening proccess would help tremendously. \yes, a few will slip through no doubt. But honestly, that will likely be a drop in the bucket compared to possible terrorists getting in through all the other ways- remember, if the refugee can pass the cuirrent screening, they sure as shit can pass TSA and fly to america on vacation... so how dangerous are the refugees in the grand scheme?

nocturnalPretty dangerous being that they want to kill people in this country and you know what I meant the Irish didnt opress anymore then our country was at that time. Go to British Muslim communities today and tell me they're not moving backwards in time.

nocturnalGo to British Muslim communities today and tell me they're not moving backwards in time.

californiagrownHow much more dangerous are those immigrants than folks from that area visiting on vacation? Folks that can pass the refugee background check, can pass through TSA. Should we shut down all vacationers who once lived in that part of the world? My morals would say that i should accept more risk to help people in need, than to help people who arent in need.

Thing is, it seems like they are people in need who dont present a risk higher than we are already accept.

mishracerHave you ever actually been to a Muslim community within the UK? They are not as they are portrayed to be in the American media. Most British Muslim communities are not first generation migrants and as a result are integrated into British society whilst retaining some of their traditional cultures.

nocturnalI've seen videos of them yelling at women to put on more clothes and cover up even though they're not Muslim and live in that area.

californiagrownI was referencing the other poster's position that the muslim immigrants will ruin/destroy/hurt american culture and society through means other than terrorism.

CampeadorNo, but our culture should always be rooted in the ideas of the Enlightenment.

There is no place for the backwards culture of Islam here.

PCPRINCIPALNo one said that.

comparing the current situation to the Irish potato famine is like next level retard.

PCPRINCIPALWho now what Taqiyya is? I've actually had personal experience with this type of deception and it is very very dangerous.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6587/carson-taqiyya-dissimulation

they will lie about anything to benefit themselves. Muslims always frontin but they hate us.
Inclusive Religions have no business trying to impose themselves in this country. I'm all for taking in refugees but it makes no sense to hold onto the religion that made you a refugee in the first place. Most logical middle eastern immigrants understand that there are deep rooted problems with Islam and any level headed, reasonable muslim understands this and typically chooses not to defend the religion and to just not talk about it all together.


For the record, anyone who thinks one religion is better than another and can't see that they are all related to the same existence is a kook in my book.

nocturnalDon't worry man this year when a terrorist attack happens from one of them. All these people coming from that area will stop.

mishracerI am from the UK and I am just telling you the reality on the ground.

fab02First:
Wow haven't seen any German commenting this thread...means I am the first one. I see only people from America

Can't believe how much bullshit I read in here about that topic. Half is like i said bullshit other half is offtopic.. None post didnt actually faced and explained the problems we have here in Germany. It is really hard to explain to non Germans/ Europeans and especially to the rest of the world. So I dont wanna get into it here on NS :)

If you wanna get a good overview about Cologno, read newspaper.:
http://www.faz.net/
http://www.zeit.de/index
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/

These are imo the best to get a decent overview. Pretty recommended to Austrians or Switzerlandixx, who may want better informations of the current situation in Cologne. For non German speakers I can only say, just wait until everything is clear.

Second:
Why do North Americans, (YES Canada AND USA) judge our refugee policy? These two countries, who pick "their" immigrants/refugees out of milions who suffer from war, diseases or dictatorships. Who dont give ANY fucks about equal rights for every human. Better educated refugees were given the chance to stay in Canada/America. The "normal" ones should get slaghtered in Syria by brutal fucktards , because of their lower education (?). , Obv. NO! So they try to get to Europe instead. Here everybody has the same chance for a permanent stay. Doesnt matter if PhD in Stompenonics or server in an old tea house in Damaskus.
My home village (~3500 inhabitants) go now 500 refugees from whole fking Africa as well as Syria. Get into contact with those people, before generalizing and posting garbage in the internet.

Third:
The fear of immigrants in (US) America is terrifiying. Went one time to Oklahoma, never again. Lucky just a drive though. The more I came to countryside, the more terrified, racist and nationalistic rednecky fucktards I met. Those who were immigrants themselfes 1-300 years ago, the ones who got the opportunity to re-start their whole life. Why shouldn't Syrians, Eritreans or Iraqis have this chance too? I dont even want an answer, because there is no logical non racist one!

America, land of the "free". Haha bullshit, land of sadly too many conservative racists. Hope that the whole Donald Trump thing is a joke.

Luckily tons of openminded ppl at both coasts and especially here on Newschoolers, thanks guys!

Keep in mind: Never generalize and try to get a solid overview by reading local newspaper and stuff or asking local friends etc.

P.S.: Sorry for this essay. Wasn't meant to be that long. Ohh...and this is just my opinion, always open for a fair discussion :)

nocturnalI don't belive you

Yeah I see no problem with these people in your country 10 years down the road.

mishracerLook man if you want to drag up some videos from the depths of the internet to further insight an argument then I'm fine with that but, I was merely stating that the reality is not what you believe it to be. I live in the UK, I see the reality every day. You however, live several thousand miles away in a different country and presume to lecture me on the country in which I live and the society in which I am immersed. Sure, there are a few bad apples but every section of society has them. British society has and continues to face a number of multifaceted problems, this is just one on a long list.

PeppermillRenoAnd I am first generation American my parents are immigrants btw Im the last person to be anti immigration.

nocturnalNot all Muslims but the one who kill or oppressed in the name of religion. Fuck those people and their backwards society.

nocturnalMuslim extremists are a problem and they need to be stopped. Seem we agree they're a cancer and they should all be killed. Not all Muslims but the one who kill or oppressed in the name of religion. Fuck those people and their backwards society.