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Classic NS edge/chipping thread

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Swandog7
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So NS, its come to that time in my skis life that I'm dealing with some durability issues.

What we are dealing with here: 3 edge cracks - 2 edge cracks on my right ski (I slide right foot forward), 1 edge crack on my left ski. Some chipping thats getting out of hand as well

Basically tell me what i should do in the situation that doest involve shaving off some base and putting screws in the teeth of the edge because I don't have the supplies for it. They are pretty immature and new cracks, so I'm pretty lucky I caught them when i did. Ive ridden 2 days after I noticed them. For chipping, I'll fix this myself.
I don't have a lot of experience dealing with this, so help me out. I have zero epoxy, or almost any material dealing with fixing it. I've detuned my edges twice now after 1 1/2 season on these.


Right ski with two edge cracks

Overall situation - about 2 inches in length



edge crack #1


edge crack #2


Left ski with one edge crack



Then we got some chipping going on throughout the ski, and one runs about 60cm along my ski, I just don't have the camera to take good pics as you can tell


Dec 28 2015 9:48PM
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uyghur
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Given the (lack of) tools you have I would say the best solution is smooth it out with a metal file.
Dec 28 2015 10:07PM
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Swandog7
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uyghurGiven the (lack of) tools you have I would say the best solution is smooth it out with a metal file.


Doing that as we speak, though think Ill need more extensive work to prevent the edge from pulling out
Dec 28 2015 10:51PM
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lickmyballs
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Is it normal for ski edges at the tips and tails to not be connected Like the physical edge not connected. I have this on my al dentes at the tips. It looks like it was the way it was made. I'm sure if this is with all skis or just the al dentes.
Dec 28 2015 11:20PM
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Swandog7
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RAVAGEIs it normal for ski edges at the tips and tails to not be connected Like the physical edge not connected. I have this on my al dentes at the tips. It looks like it was the way it was made. I'm sure if this is with all skis or just the al dentes.


Wut no this is underfoot for all 3 cracks. I have that though on my tips. I know what you are talking about. I actually don't have edges around my tips and tails, something Moment does
Dec 28 2015 11:22PM
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Swandog7
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I'm thinking of borrowing a dremel so even out some of the chipping then use some sand paper to make it rough. Ill have to make a trip to Home Depot and find some epoxy. Ill add a few layers of it then let it sit. Ill maybe find some synthetic color and clear lacquer to coat over it. Any of that sound wrong?
Dec 28 2015 11:24PM
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supersquid
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my moment vices are at that stage right now. I have just been riding them and wait until some edge comes out or it gets worse. after the edge comes out i just cut it off make it smooth and fill the hole with epoxy. not really much you can do once the edge starts to pull out. How many days do you have on them?
Dec 29 2015 12:03AM
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supersquid
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btw were you the dude i saw at the troll haugen jam on its opening weekend?
Dec 29 2015 12:05AM
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lickmyballs
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Swandog7Wut no this is underfoot for all 3 cracks. I have that though on my tips. I know what you are talking about. I actually don't have edges around my tips and tails, something Moment does


Oh thats interesting! How do you like them? I like how there skis tips and tails are stubbed
Dec 29 2015 12:11AM
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Swandog7
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jmellberg800my moment vices are at that stage right now. I have just been riding them and wait until some edge comes out or it gets worse. after the edge comes out i just cut it off make it smooth and fill the hole with epoxy. not really much you can do once the edge starts to pull out. How many days do you have on them?


What should I do now? I don't want to wait for them to pull out, I need them in decent shape by the end of the season besides chipping. Im at day 60? ish

jmellberg800btw were you the dude i saw at the troll haugen jam on its opening weekend?


I wasn't. I went to the Spirit one though
Dec 29 2015 12:30PM
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Swandog7
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RAVAGEOh thats interesting! How do you like them? I like how there skis tips and tails are stubbed


Favorite ski so far. I just picked up Da Nollies and got 4 days on them. The Vice is my style for sure, but the Da Nollie is just so dam fun and flexy
Dec 29 2015 12:31PM
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G_B
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If you are buying epoxy buy JB weld for edge maintenance. Marine grade epoxy(waterproof) for top sheet chips. Here is what I do. First, get a flat piece of metal longer than your edge damage. Then put JB on the edge crack, put the piece of metal the base side of the ski. Put however many clamps you have on it, his will help to even out the edge cracks. Go over it with a file, then a gummy stone. Hopefully that helps, pm me if you have any other questions. I just finished fixing a pair of soul riders that were dale talking tons that were super messed up, so I feel your pain on edge cracks
Dec 29 2015 1:12PM
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Swandog7
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G_BIf you are buying epoxy buy JB weld for edge maintenance. Marine grade epoxy(waterproof) for top sheet chips. Here is what I do. First, get a flat piece of metal longer than your edge damage. Then put JB on the edge crack, put the piece of metal the base side of the ski. Put however many clamps you have on it, his will help to even out the edge cracks. Go over it with a file, then a gummy stone. Hopefully that helps, pm me if you have any other questions. I just finished fixing a pair of soul riders that were dale talking tons that were super messed up, so I feel your pain on edge cracks


Can I see how you did the JB Weld and the metal? Maybe post a pic. I think I figured out how Ill fix the chips with the Marine grade epoxy
Dec 29 2015 2:27PM
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G_B
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Swandog7Can I see how you did the JB Weld and the metal? Maybe post a pic. I think I figured out how Ill fix the chips with the Marine grade epoxy


Yeah. I'm out if town til next Monday but I'll post a few ASAP
Dec 29 2015 3:11PM
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Casey
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G_BIf you are buying epoxy buy JB weld for edge maintenance. Marine grade epoxy(waterproof) for top sheet chips. Here is what I do. First, get a flat piece of metal longer than your edge damage. Then put JB on the edge crack, put the piece of metal the base side of the ski. Put however many clamps you have on it, his will help to even out the edge cracks. Go over it with a file, then a gummy stone. Hopefully that helps, pm me if you have any other questions. I just finished fixing a pair of soul riders that were dale talking tons that were super messed up, so I feel your pain on edge cracks


I've never thought of jb weld for edge cracks, but I have had success with patching topsheet touches with marine grade epoxy. Super simple you can't mess it up. My only input with the edge issues is to try to hit them back straight with a hammer and block if you can. Once that's done Jb would probly be a pretty legit fix
Dec 30 2015 12:41AM
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BenWhit
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your biggest concern should be the edge separating from the ski, allowing water to seep into the core material. As water seeps into the base material, it will freeze and expand, causing the materials to separate from their compressed form. This will essentially cause your ski to fall apart as more water seeps into the expanded core material as you continue to ski. It freezes, expands, melts, freezes, expands, melts, etc. If you don't have epoxy, gorilla glue and clamps are your best friend.
Dec 30 2015 11:57AM
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Swandog7
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BenWhityour biggest concern should be the edge separating from the ski, allowing water to seep into the core material. As water seeps into the base material, it will freeze and expand, causing the materials to separate from their compressed form. This will essentially cause your ski to fall apart as more water seeps into the expanded core material as you continue to ski. It freezes, expands, melts, freezes, expands, melts, etc. If you don't have epoxy, gorilla glue and clamps are your best friend.


I'm going to buy epoxy for the chipping so I may use it for the edges too. I know the consequences of the edges being cracked and pulling out. I just need a way to patch it without cutting into the base and putting screws in
Dec 30 2015 12:10PM
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BenWhit
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Swandog7I'm going to buy epoxy for the chipping so I may use it for the edges too. I know the consequences of the edges being cracked and pulling out. I just need a way to patch it without cutting into the base and putting screws in


You really just have to clamp it tight and hope it holds.
Dec 30 2015 12:40PM
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Swandog7
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Tru
Dec 30 2015 12:47PM
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The.Fish
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I noticed some edge cracks while waxing today and the edge doesn't appear that it has moved but the sidewall has a very small gap between it and the edge. I attempted to melt some ptex for avery temporary fix. My plan for a sort of better fix is to buy a bunch of these cheap spring clamps http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-2-in-Spring-Clamp-80002/100027346 and an epoxy (which kind is would work for this? I don't want to buy something that doesnt adhere that well.) I will pour the epoxy into the gap and clamp it down for a day with a metal scraper. I know a few people who ride without edge which I will probably end up doing since these are just for park and I have a separate all mountain twin for non park stuff that isn't in the midwest. Any suggestions or critiques would be great.
Jan 13 2017 12:50AM
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