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McLS
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Dec 26 2015 8:48AM
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Julius_Steezer
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It does suck but I guess if they've paid for a private park or something then that may be why

Is the DC park in meribel not open yet to hop over too?
Dec 26 2015 9:20AM
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Jibberino
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I don't get your whole point about level of skiing being relevant to whether or not you can ski the park, but I would definitely be fucking pissed if I had dished out 250 euros for a lift pass, and was then told I couldn't shred the park. Just goes to prove that the French resorts don't give a fuck, they'll just do whatever they want.
Dec 26 2015 9:24AM
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arnie_grape
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they are probably the kind of "pros" who pay several thousand dollars a year to be on the "pro team"
Dec 26 2015 3:42PM
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AceleTerrie
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he are these "pros" you speak of
Dec 26 2015 4:05PM
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UilyJeff
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Seems to me that the staff and mountain operations are the fuckheads.
Dec 26 2015 4:12PM
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japanada
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Dont be a puspus and poach it and show em how pro you are.
Dec 26 2015 5:10PM
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Titus69
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Since when did we need a fucking "license" to be pro?
Dec 26 2015 6:27PM
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McLS
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Dec 26 2015 6:37PM
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Dddsz
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Just say "yeah I'm pro" and they will probably let you in.
Dec 26 2015 8:30PM
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casual
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Of course the park has been privately paid for.....resorts don't build and maintain features just for "pros" just because. Runs with gates for race training that are closed for public are rented out by clubs and teams and they pay big bucks to the ski areas to do so. Use your brain.

"Can I drop in just to check the speed?".....that doesn't make even a little bit of sense, and you're shocked that they blew you off? Come on man. And your thread title sucks.
Dec 26 2015 8:55PM
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270on420out
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Hope you told that last guy what's good. I'm starting to dislike comps more and more.
Dec 26 2015 9:08PM
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Ski_The_East.
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Op.Just say "yeah I'm pro" and they will probably let you in.


I can't believe you're pro dude. Im so much radder than you
Dec 26 2015 10:06PM
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arnie_grape
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Op.Just say "yeah I'm pro" and they will probably let you in.


only if you memorize the secret pro handshake
Dec 26 2015 10:23PM
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VANULAR
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McLSSo for a while now my local hill (valthorens) has privatized the only 4 features (a decent doubleable kicker, a dfdf box, flat tube and rail, not even side entry) in the park (we have extremly little snow) for a "pro camp". So fair enough some legit pros are riding there, but also a freestyle junior club (biggest tricks 5s) and a few "pro" who seem to be doing a lot of straight slides and nospins...

Anyways, went there, polite and shit, asked if i could drop in just to check the speed, and this dude is like "no man it's closed to non pros and non fis licenses" im like "fuckdat im better than half the people here, and there's only like 20 riders in total..." (bare in mind this is the only opened park in the whole 3vallees due to little snow).
So then another guy comes up "are you pro? No? Then get the fuck out".

Like wtf people. I would get it if the features were huge but they're far from it, and there isnt a lot of riders there. So yeah, cunt ass pro not letting me ride the only park out here. Such bullshit.



fuck those people... it's probably some sort of insurance thing.. the way to get around stuff like that is to sign up for a membership, whatever one runs their program like 30 bucks or something and then your covered aka "pro" in their eyes..
Dec 26 2015 10:46PM
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JuliusJ
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This thread reminds me of Pussy Pro Skiers. People make fun of him and then turns out he turns out to be a pro skier years later haha.
Dec 26 2015 11:09PM
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Swandog7
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JuliusJThis thread reminds me of Pussy Pro Skiers. People make fun of him and then turns out he turns out to be a pro skier years later haha.


Lol the link takes me to backcountry for a $119 Patagonia quarter zip
Dec 26 2015 11:21PM
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Caleb.E
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Honestly its complete bullshit, we were down at sierra for a powder alliance x newschoolers thing last year and they built this set up for us and "their pros" and i was confused , and the guy was telling us its for the pros and they always have the "big" park closed off just for their riders and pros..... and im siting here like.... yea, my hill builds 60 foot boosters for 12 year old to hit...... you guys are wack.
Dec 26 2015 11:30PM
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Kazabazua
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Sounds lame, you should go back later and take a big filthy shit all over their boxes.
Dec 26 2015 11:47PM
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JuliusJ
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Swandog7Lol the link takes me to backcountry for a $119 Patagonia quarter zip


Hahahahaha. Pussy Pro Skiers. Try that one.
Dec 27 2015 1:38AM
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Rusticles
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It's really just another sign of FIS trying to dig their dirty fucking asses into this sport, it's slowly happening in a lot of places. Some Places here now want you to "qualify for inverts" from what I understand is you have to join some ski team and have to get a coach to deem you qualified.
Dec 27 2015 2:31AM
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Btaylor
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Sounds about right.. Been in meribel and have only skiied once since french half term in L2A their isnt any point till more opens..
Dec 27 2015 2:57AM
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snowdon
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Wait why did you say you wanted to check the speed if you can't hit anything? That's annoying though.
Dec 27 2015 3:04AM
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McLS
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Dec 27 2015 3:51AM
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dan1080
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McLSa decent doubleable kicker.


Hi, I'm new to park and really looking to learn, whats this?!??!???
Dec 27 2015 4:24AM
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dan1080
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McLSa decent doubleable kicker.


Hi, I'm new to park and really looking to learn, whats this?!??!???
Dec 27 2015 4:25AM
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dan1080
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McLSa decent doubleable kicker.


Hi, I'm new to park and really looking to learn, whats this?!??!???
Dec 27 2015 4:27AM
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McLS
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dan1080Hi, I'm new to park and really looking to learn, whats this?!??!???


Shitty trolling is shitty.

What i meant was a kicker big enough to lay dubs on. Coulndt be fucked to convert metres to feet cos yall dont do metres...it's around 45-50 feet table
Dec 27 2015 6:21AM
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skierman
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I didn't think it was possible but the term "pro" has become more generic.... my god...
Dec 27 2015 10:42AM
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McLS
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skiermanI didn't think it was possible but the term "pro" has become more generic.... my god...


haha wtf long time no see
Dec 27 2015 11:19AM
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S.J.W
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I just wanna know what would happen if you tried to poach the B&E course. That would be funny as fuck
Dec 27 2015 11:22AM
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johnblaze
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Titus69Since when did we need a fucking "license" to be pro?


as soon as FIS gets involved.
Dec 27 2015 12:07PM
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Titus69
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johnblazeas soon as FIS gets involved.



Im gonna get a fake FIS pro license
Dec 27 2015 12:22PM
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arnie_grape
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S.J.WI just wanna know what would happen if you tried to poach the B&E course. That would be funny as fuck


you get shot at by masta killa
Dec 27 2015 2:29PM
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op14
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UPSIDEDOWNDICKthey are probably the kind of "pros" who pay several thousand dollars a year to be on the "pro team"


Lol the shit on the east coast that's like NASSTAR or some shit and it's just shitty little kids who pay thousands of dollars just to wear a tight outfit and ski terribly down the hill and call it "racing"
Dec 27 2015 4:18PM
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Deepskier
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FUCKKKKKKK THAT MY FRIEND
Dec 27 2015 9:05PM
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theabortionator
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Drop in, do a backflip. Become pro
Dec 27 2015 9:14PM
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PeppermillReno
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McLSYeah i tried to blend in at first, but it's a small group, thet all know each other

Could be that they did pay, in which case it's still super lame not to let another freeskier hit a few runs knowing it's the only park out here. But they could not be paying at all: what most parks do in here is they set up bunch of nets and "reserved for comps" "only pro" "non licenses forbidden" signs around the park lane for bigger features so that gapers dont come and fuck themselves. But anyone can still technically go, just dissuasion.

It was a way to ask if i could hit it without sounding like i wasnt allowed to. I would of speed checked first anyways (50 feet jump)



Maybe if you ballsed the fuck up and nailed the 50ft jump they would have treated you differently?


What else are they going to say to some kid asking to speed check saying pussy shit like speed check is how you get them thinking is this kid gonna hurt himself in there and fuck up their insurance?

I've never heard of a speed check until this thread tbh.

You could have made up a lie about being sponsorerd by something or other. Your too good to lie and bullshit crusty assholes who were going to tell you to fuck off anyways though.


If your crushing a huge feature and not hurting yourself or making them nervous noone is going to say shit to you.
Dec 28 2015 12:59PM
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Mr.Bishop
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casualOf course the park has been privately paid for.....resorts don't build and maintain features just for "pros" just because. Runs with gates for race training that are closed for public are rented out by clubs and teams and they pay big bucks to the ski areas to do so. Use your brain.

"Can I drop in just to check the speed?".....that doesn't make even a little bit of sense, and you're shocked that they blew you off? Come on man. And your thread title sucks.


Yeah I mean if you pay for a private park, you get a private park. There can be loads of rules that prevent outsiders from riding these - Waivers, crowding, fis-sanctioned, insurance, etc....

Now what was a dick move is to respond to you that way - of course that depends on how you approached them. If I was running a private park and you rolled up to me like "Hey man, I'm way better than everyone here so let me speed check your stupid park." then I'd give you attitude back as well.

If you were super respectful with a request, then they should have given you a reasonable answer - which I bet would be "Our organization paid for this and for XYZ reasons we aren't allowed to let outsiders ride it. Really sorry man!" - and if you were respectful and they were dicks then yes, fuck them.
Dec 28 2015 1:03PM
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KravtZ
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OP is just mad that he isn't a pro. I got news for you bud. Money can buy you ANYTHING. Including a private terrain park. A resort isn't going to turn down the opportunity for a significant amount of revenue period. Yea it sucks your park is shut down and maybe they built them a really nice park...but ultimately its there choice. They paid for it.

get over it buddy.
Dec 28 2015 1:52PM
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mishracer
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Yer man I was at the Val T park the other day and got the same vibe. The "pros" had a fairly interesting standard going on.
Dec 28 2015 4:44PM
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Ian_Fitz
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Just put on a nice wig with alot of flow and wear a triple xl tall T or jibbrish. Have your friend follow you around saying ur name asking for your autograph and asking how you won the monster tour in 08. If they say your not pro just challenge them to a game of slivish and pay off the ref.
Dec 28 2015 6:12PM
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KravtZ
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The referenced post has been removed.


Sorry dawg....just being a realist. Gotta hustle to get that private terrain park one day!
Dec 29 2015 8:33AM
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skierman
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McLShaha wtf long time no see



I have no idea what you're talking about.
Dec 31 2015 11:43AM
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freestyler540
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I didnt read every reply, but I think of lot of you are missing the main reason:

Insurance. in other word: MMMMMOOOOOOONNNNNEEEEYYYYYYYYYY!
I was a Canadian federation acrobatic member and you have to pay premiums to be a member to make sure you are covered when things turn ugly in training or in competition. These tricks are actually really regulated, they have to qualify the flips and doubles (or not on dubs) on water ramps before doing them on snow. They did a great job on regulating safety in the sport, and the fis is still doing an outstanding job today.

Now these features are larger than any private insurance will be willing to cover, or so expensive that ski centers cant dish out the cash. They loan a section of the mountain to the FIS or an insured skiing body and one of the points in the contract is separate coverage in case of injury.

Ever since the rise in lawsuits for profit was on the rise in the US, they have to tone everything down to avoid the negligence cause.

Solutions? Well, I can see 2. You join these competitive teams and get access to them or you take out extra insurance for yourself and get it approved by the site managers, resort management and coaches on site.
Dec 31 2015 12:31PM
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dbchili
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I went to Val thorens today. The public park setup was pathetic. Lack of snow is not an excuse when they've managed to cover ever other run with snow guns, it's just lazy

I get you point but I think your anger is misdirected
Jan 1 2016 11:25AM
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McLS
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mishracerYer man I was at the Val T park the other day and got the same vibe. The "pros" had a fairly interesting standard going on.


EbolaJust put on a nice wig with alot of flow and wear a triple xl tall T or jibbrish. Have your friend follow you around saying ur name asking for your autograph and asking how you won the monster tour in 08. If they say your not pro just challenge them to a game of slivish and pay off the ref.

haha cracked me up dude
freestyler540I didnt read every reply, but I think of lot of you are missing the main reason:

Insurance. in other word: MMMMMOOOOOOONNNNNEEEEYYYYYYYYYY!
I was a Canadian federation acrobatic member and you have to pay premiums to be a member to make sure you are covered when things turn ugly in training or in competition. These tricks are actually really regulated, they have to qualify the flips and doubles (or not on dubs) on water ramps before doing them on snow. They did a great job on regulating safety in the sport, and the fis is still doing an outstanding job today.

Now these features are larger than any private insurance will be willing to cover, or so expensive that ski centers cant dish out the cash. They loan a section of the mountain to the FIS or an insured skiing body and one of the points in the contract is separate coverage in case of injury.

Ever since the rise in lawsuits for profit was on the rise in the US, they have to tone everything down to avoid the negligence cause.

Solutions? Well, I can see 2. You join these competitive teams and get access to them or you take out extra insurance for yourself and get it approved by the site managers, resort management and coaches on site.

About the insurance, france has none of that super expensive bills if you hurt yourself bad like murica, plus most people get the ski pass insurance for paying heli and shit. The only insurance related issue would be for the pro park to be sued if gapers fucked themselves on it, but there's a "at your own risk" sign and shit everywhere to get em covered. So only reason is money the resort makes...
dbchiliI went to Val thorens today. The public park setup was pathetic. Lack of snow is not an excuse when they've managed to cover ever other run with snow guns, it's just lazy

I get you point but I think your anger is misdirected


to y'all, I went back few days ago, few guys were way chilled and bitched on whoever told me not to come, hit a couple laps with them until some dude was like, "dont take the big kicker cos you haven't technically paid since you have no license, and there's a bit of a line", but if you just hit the smaller one and the rails ya it's cool". Guess it just depends on the generosity of people ! Anyways it closed yesterday, but I think the park is destroying the bigger jump for security reasons. Hope they leave the rails and start adding on. Im back in a few weeks anyways so should be good then !

so if you're pro/licensed/have privileges...be cool and help a fellow freeskier out, that's what this sport is about !
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