Full Tilt Descendant Flaw

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Nah man, you just have to replace the hardware with something beefier. Go to your boot fitter and get a washer, a bolt and a T nut. Problem solved.

Dec 20 2015 9:35AM

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powderwhorNah man, you just have to replace the hardware with something beefier. Go to your boot fitter and get a washer, a bolt and a T nut. Problem solved.

You shouldn't have to do that though. I would expect from a high end company like full tilt not to produce a product that breaks easily.

Dec 20 2015 12:54PM

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Full tilts are just cheaply built in general. Compared to other brands , the shell and components are flimsy and weak. And I personally can't stand intuition liners . Sorry fanboys . Full tilt ain't cutting it for me .

Dec 20 2015 1:08PM

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They used the wrong rivets on them. I believe they are going to have new tongues with proper rivets soon available. Not sure if they will be free or for purchase.

Dec 20 2015 2:23PM

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InDeV.gifYou shouldn't have to do that though. I would expect from a high end company like full tilt not to produce a product that breaks easily.

I agree. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty fuckin salty about it. But I have skiing to do an don't feel like waiting around for a warranty or new tongues. A little hardware is free or practically free and now the tongues are pretty much guaranteed to never fall off.

Dec 20 2015 8:47PM

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powderwhorI agree. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty fuckin salty about it. But I have skiing to do an don't feel like waiting around for a warranty or new tongues. A little hardware is free or practically free and now the tongues are pretty much guaranteed to never fall off.

I feel ya. Hope they hold up. I would still email full tilt and probably provide pictures and a list of the hardware you used for the repair.

Dec 20 2015 11:50PM

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op please post some pics, i have some descendant 4s and i want to be on the look out incase the same thing happens to mine

Dec 21 2015 4:41PM

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I will post pics when I get home from work and how I fixed it.

Dec 21 2015 4:58PM

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InDeV.gifYou shouldn't have to do that though. I would expect from a high end company like full tilt not to produce a product that breaks easily.

High end haha, overpriced and comfortable yes, high end no.

Dec 21 2015 5:01PM

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Dalbellos are like a high end full tilt . 3 piece shell with infinitely better quality shell construction, liner and components. Roxa looks infinitely higher quality too . Full tilts are chincy.

Dec 21 2015 5:36PM

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Same with nordica ace 3 star . Any other brands cabrio 3 piece shell is built better than fanboy tilts.

Dec 21 2015 6:10PM

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The red circles the rivet that sheared off very easily. If you still have both of yours you could try to JB weld it to the bracket for reinforcement. Also pictured is a quick fix, I still don't like how flimsy everything else is.

Dec 21 2015 7:02PM

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Thanks op

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Is this the same issue for the descendant 4? I was planning on getting those for next year because my boots are too small.

Dec 21 2015 9:36PM

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Bolt, washer and T nut. Much better fix. Very secure. Requires a specific T nut though. Your nearest boot fitter should have them. As you can see it sits between the two bars and locks into place so it doesn't move at all.

Dec 22 2015 8:48AM

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AparkerIs this the same issue for the descendant 4? I was planning on getting those for next year because my boots are too small.

Yes, they all have this problem. But they should be fixed by next year and supposedly Full Tilt is providing a fix for this year's as well. It's simply a rivet that isn't strong enough.

Dec 22 2015 8:50AM

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whistlesMy experience is with the Descendant 8

Before ordering I read a review about the tongues breaking off but I went ahead and ordered them anyway..

Knowing it was a weak point I was careful never to torque the end of the tongue. My first day on the mountain with them I pulled my boots off at lunch to give my feet a break and the metal rivet attaching the tongue snapped liked a soggy toothpick.

For this type of money I wouldn't expect such a flimsy overlook.

Hey guys,

We’ve learned that there’s been some issues with a limited number of rivets breaking when the tongue isn’t pulled rearward prior to opening the boot up. It’s an inconvenience if the rivet breaks for sure but its not a safety concern – the tongue is held in place when the buckle/cable system is buckled.

If you do run into the issue, check in with the shop that you picked them up at or hit us up (http://fulltiltboots.com/support/contact-us) or at 1.800.718.0820 and we’ll get a set of replacements out to you ASAP.

Dec 22 2015 1:32PM

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PachankzDalbellos are like a high end full tilt . 3 piece shell with infinitely better quality shell construction, liner and components. Roxa looks infinitely higher quality too . Full tilts are chincy.

Roxa is literally rebranded fulltilt shells

Dec 22 2015 8:33PM

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Shoey-SkiRoxa is literally rebranded fulltilt shells

Same molds different qualities on the components tho. Fall talt is cheap junk.

Dec 22 2015 8:58PM

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PachankzFall talt

my favorite brand

Dec 22 2015 10:37PM

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InDeV.gifYou shouldn't have to do that though. I would expect from a high end company like full tilt not to produce a product that breaks easily.

price doesn't dictate "high-end". Keep in mind they are basically re-dressing a boot that was used in the 1980's. They price within range of competitors in their direct market, use cheaper materials, and profit immensely. There was a post below claiming that Dalbello is a high-end Full Tilt boot, and having owned both brands of boots, I would tend to agree. Full Tilt has succeeded, however, by positioning themselves with some of the biggest, trendiest names in skiing, making them a marketing phenomenon.

Dec 23 2015 10:50AM

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Wouldn't a soggy toothpick bend rather than snap since it's saturated with water?

Dec 23 2015 5:44PM

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Shoey-SkiRoxa is literally rebranded fulltilt shells

Uhhhhh...no. The Influence shell is a rebranded Roxa. Other than that they don't share anything in common other than being made of plastic

Dec 23 2015 6:05PM

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BenWhitprice doesn't dictate "high-end". Keep in mind they are basically re-dressing a boot that was used in the 1980's. They price within range of competitors in their direct market, use cheaper materials, and profit immensely. There was a post below claiming that Dalbello is a high-end Full Tilt boot, and having owned both brands of boots, I would tend to agree. Full Tilt has succeeded, however, by positioning themselves with some of the biggest, trendiest names in skiing, making them a marketing phenomenon.

This guy hit the nail on the head. If you have spent time studying boots across the board, taken them apart, played with the liners and buckles and done some heavy investigation, you'll quickly see full tilts are like toys ! Sorry ft , I know your reading this. They capitalize on clueless kids who don't even know what a cabrio shell is or why they'd even want one vs an overlap two piece. Granted their components have improved over the very few years they've been on the market, it's time they made a better quality overall product.

Dec 23 2015 7:37PM

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