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Quiver killers?

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elcornholio
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I have two questions about quiver killers. I'm first going to give my use for them. I have several pairs of skis and one pair of bindings (From friends who are sponsored and can't use last years skis). I plan to put one set of screws per ski, bit switch between them for different uses. I am an aggressive park skier and was wondering 1. If the quiver killers are prone to ripping out and 2. If quiver killers are prone to letting water into the ski and shortening its life.
Thanks. Sorry if this is a repost but I couldn't find any concrete answers.

http://quiverkiller.com/
Dec 2 2015 5:56PM
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snowpocalypse
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Quiver killers are stronger than normal screws. You will not rip them out. As long as they are installed by somebody that knows what they are doing you should be fine. I re-pete by someone that know what they are doing!
Dec 2 2015 6:01PM
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elcornholio
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SVmikeQuiver killers are stronger than normal screws. You will not rip them out. As long as they are installed by somebody that knows what they are doing you should be fine. I re-pete by someone that know what they are doing!


Thanks! Anyone know of anywhere in MA or NH that mounts quiver killers?
Dec 2 2015 6:05PM
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snowpocalypse
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Check out EMS or All Tuned Up
Dec 2 2015 6:16PM
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losh
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Damn. They're like $5 how have I not heard of these? They're an amazing idea.
Dec 2 2015 6:52PM
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Cream_Sauce
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tech talk jong
Dec 2 2015 7:17PM
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a_burger
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jlens05Damn. They're like $5 how have I not heard of these? They're an amazing idea.


because shit adds up fast. Fks have 16 holes per pair of skis, on 2 skis thats 32, 32x5= a bunch of money I didn't have at the time I was looking into it

that being said if your in MA definitely check out All Tuned Up as mentioned above, they do an excellent job, know their shit (unlike another unnamed shop in the area *cough* sport loft *cough*) and charge excellent prices (a normal mount is $30, for a quiver killer setup using 32 holes I was quoted $80ish, which is fair)
Dec 2 2015 7:29PM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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I remember one company trying to do this with their skis, you may have heard of them, they're called LINE!



They had something going and their binding concept was actually a great concept but the design was flawed and they fell apart. I still have my Reactors though, never getting rid of them.
Dec 2 2015 8:08PM
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colder152000
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i had quiver killers and boy were they a pain. it takes like 20 min to switch your bindings and your forward pressure is always off when you switch your skis. i have look pivots so it was such a process- ill never do it again. If it was a pow day i didn't wanna wake up twenty min early just to switch my bindings, i just want to be able to grab my ski and go. Cant miss the freshies!
Dec 2 2015 9:14PM
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RudyGarmisch
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The cost of each screw didnt make sense to me for park skis you'd be replacing yearly. Also, if you ever break that binding or if the manufacturer ever decides to change the hole pattern, or you get a different size boot - "Oh F...."
Dec 2 2015 9:15PM
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Poikenz
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SVmikeQuiver killers are stronger than normal screws. You will not rip them out. As long as they are installed by somebody that knows what they are doing you should be fine. I re-pete by someone that know what they are doing!


Pretty sure I've read the opposite somewhere- that quiver killers are more prone to pullouts than a traditional mount.
Dec 2 2015 9:34PM
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Deepskier
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Well you could also put a little glue in the hole then screw it in so its tight but you can proabably get it out with some work. OR you could just cut the binding from the ski if you can fit a blade between them and just jut the screw in half pop the top half out and then your skis are already set for the drill then your done.
Dec 2 2015 10:36PM
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JTL
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PoikenzPretty sure I've read the opposite somewhere- that quiver killers are more prone to pullouts than a traditional mount.


Where did you read that? I have never pulled out my QKs but I have ripped out regular screws a few times.
Dec 2 2015 11:01PM
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Skibumsmith
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I had quiver killers for 2 years and was pretty happy with them. I had a pair of skis with holes for Dukes and pivots because I couldn't afford a backcountry specific setup. It only takes about 5 minutes to swap the bindings. I toured about 20 days last year and would put my pivots back on at the end of each day and never had any issues with water damage or pull outs.
Dec 3 2015 1:00AM
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250r
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ive been thinking about getting inserts so i can run tech bindings and alpine bindings on the same ski.


ive never used inserts before, but i have always heard that binding freedoms were better than quiver killers. the company is owned by the person who invented quiver killers, but then made another improved version, after selling quiver killers. that was my general understanding at least.


http://www.bindingfreedom.com/
Dec 3 2015 1:45AM
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baodin
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250rive been thinking about getting inserts so i can run tech bindings and alpine bindings on the same ski.


ive never used inserts before, but i have always heard that binding freedoms were better than quiver killers. the company is owned by the person who invented quiver killers, but then made another improved version, after selling quiver killers. that was my general understanding at least.


http://www.bindingfreedom.com/


I'm not sure that's true. The inventor of the inserts started binding freedom - not Quiver killer. And then he sold out to a corporate tool company last year in boise. at least according to their website.

I've used both, and they do the same thing. The only real difference is in the top design. BF inserts are a bit longer (a problem for thinner skis these days) and have a slotted top for a flat head screwdriver. This is supposed to make installation easier, but no one installs them this way. QK inserts are somewhat shorter with a flat top.

I prefer the quiver killer inserts over BF because the end result is a cleaner looking installation (smooth top surface) and less risk of "dimpling" out the base due to the longer binding freedom insert. Also, the guys there are really knowledgeable- they helped me work out my tech binding screw lengths and sent me samples to get it right. I heard even Hoji skis on them.

http://quiverkiller.com/
Dec 4 2015 6:14PM
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brov1
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w_skierbecause shit adds up fast. Fks have 16 holes per pair of skis, on 2 skis thats 32, 32x5= a bunch of money I didn't have at the time I was looking into it

that being said if your in MA definitely check out All Tuned Up as mentioned above, they do an excellent job, know their shit (unlike another unnamed shop in the area *cough* sport loft *cough*) and charge excellent prices (a normal mount is $30, for a quiver killer setup using 32 holes I was quoted $80ish, which is fair)


fks bindings have 8 holes per ski....

they are 1.99 per and its 32$ for 18 so.... no it doesnt really add up
Dec 4 2015 11:31PM
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250r
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baodinI'm not sure that's true. The inventor of the inserts started binding freedom - not Quiver killer. And then he sold out to a corporate tool company last year in boise. at least according to their website.

I've used both, and they do the same thing. The only real difference is in the top design. BF inserts are a bit longer (a problem for thinner skis these days) and have a slotted top for a flat head screwdriver. This is supposed to make installation easier, but no one installs them this way. QK inserts are somewhat shorter with a flat top.

I prefer the quiver killer inserts over BF because the end result is a cleaner looking installation (smooth top surface) and less risk of "dimpling" out the base due to the longer binding freedom insert. Also, the guys there are really knowledgeable- they helped me work out my tech binding screw lengths and sent me samples to get it right. I heard even Hoji skis on them.

http://quiverkiller.com/


good to know man, that was just something i think i read on tgr a few years ago. i guess ill be thinking about quiver killers instead then.
Dec 5 2015 3:44AM
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a_burger
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brov1fks bindings have 8 holes per ski....

they are 1.99 per and its 32$ for 18 so.... no it doesnt really add up


oops said per pair then multiplied it by 2 anyways

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Dec 5 2015 6:12PM
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