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Rossignol fks 155 race plate?

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soupcan
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I picked up some fks 155 race and was wondering if they require a plate to be mounted. From looking at the bindings it appears they have the same screw pattern as the standard fks however I can't get any hard info from looking online. Anyone know for sure?
Nov 17 2015 10:31PM
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haggis_hunter
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No but make sure you have the correct screws for mounting them to a ski not a plate. They can be mounted straight to a flat ski. The Ross plate screws have tapped holes on the plate so you will need a different set of screws, easy to pick up though.
Nov 18 2015 7:05AM
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soupcan
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LamafamaNo but make sure you have the correct screws for mounting them to a ski not a plate. They can be mounted straight to a flat ski. The Ross plate screws have tapped holes on the plate so you will need a different set of screws, easy to pick up though.
perfect I spent a solid couple hours trying to find that out. And screws are no problem so that dope!
Nov 18 2015 10:44AM
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scratchskier321
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part of reason this binding is so good is because it sits low to the ski. definitely don't use plates.
Nov 19 2015 3:45AM
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haggis_hunter
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scratchskier321part of reason this binding is so good is because it sits low to the ski. definitely don't use plates.


Mounting plates to a flat deck ski is something that requires a different jig to begin with, most plates are mounted with quiver killer type machine screws embedded in the cores from the factory. The type of screw varies massively between different brands of plate. I've had Fischer and Atomic race plates and theres no way on earth I would attempt to bother mounting them on a flat deck.

Some skis respond well to having a riser plate, such as the thinner waisted Kastle's (not I imagine many on NS rock RX lines). But if one did then Markers plate is designed to be a more universal mount, and as such its used on a lot of other skis.
Nov 19 2015 6:01AM
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KarlTheKoolKat
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Hey guys I have a very similar question, I have a pair of tyrolia ff race bindings and they were mounted on a race plate before I took them off and i plan to remount them to a different pair of skis (not for racing). Just to clarify, it is okay to mount them without the race plate? And I have to get new screws? Could I just use the ones that are screwing the race plate into the old skis?

Thanks
Nov 19 2015 6:53AM
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scratchskier321
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LamafamaMounting plates to a flat deck ski is something that requires a different jig to begin with, most plates are mounted with quiver killer type machine screws embedded in the cores from the factory. The type of screw varies massively between different brands of plate. I've had Fischer and Atomic race plates and theres no way on earth I would attempt to bother mounting them on a flat deck.

Some skis respond well to having a riser plate, such as the thinner waisted Kastle's (not I imagine many on NS rock RX lines). But if one did then Markers plate is designed to be a more universal mount, and as such its used on a lot of other skis.


and? you posted this because?
Nov 19 2015 4:15PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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KarlTheKoolKatHey guys I have a very similar question, I have a pair of tyrolia ff race bindings and they were mounted on a race plate before I took them off and i plan to remount them to a different pair of skis (not for racing). Just to clarify, it is okay to mount them without the race plate? And I have to get new screws? Could I just use the ones that are screwing the race plate into the old skis?

Thanks


The Tyrolia FF 17/18/20 race bindings came with a plate that tied the toe and heel together to let them flex more naturally. I do not believe you can mount them without the plate. The FF plate isn't that tall, it will just add a little weight. But then again the Tyrolia race bindings weren't light to begin with soooooo...
Nov 19 2015 4:57PM
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KarlTheKoolKat
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Caucasian_AsianThe Tyrolia FF 17/18/20 race bindings came with a plate that tied the toe and heel together to let them flex more naturally. I do not believe you can mount them without the plate. The FF plate isn't that tall, it will just add a little weight. But then again the Tyrolia race bindings weren't light to begin with soooooo...


Right yeah I see what you're saying it has like some sort of spring in the middle where the toe and heel connect, but I mean even under that there is a big thick metal plate on the skis which the bindings were mounted on. I can still mount the bindings without that thick plate thing right? (I thought that was what a raceplate)
The thing im talking about looks like this http://2014.palmerskis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/speedplate13_small.jpg
Nov 19 2015 5:05PM
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KarlTheKoolKat
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Caucasian_AsianThe Tyrolia FF 17/18/20 race bindings came with a plate that tied the toe and heel together to let them flex more naturally. I do not believe you can mount them without the plate. The FF plate isn't that tall, it will just add a little weight. But then again the Tyrolia race bindings weren't light to begin with soooooo...


Right yeah I see what you're saying it has like some sort of spring in the middle where the toe and heel connect, but I mean even under that there is a big thick metal plate on the skis which the bindings were mounted on. I can still mount the bindings without that thick plate thing right? (I thought that was what a raceplate)
The thing im talking about looks like this http://2014.palmerskis.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/speedplate13_small.jpg
Nov 19 2015 5:05PM
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haggis_hunter
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scratchskier321and? you posted this because?


Because why not.

Caucasian_AsianThe Tyrolia FF 17/18/20 race bindings came with a plate that tied the toe and heel together to let them flex more naturally. I do not believe you can mount them without the plate. The FF plate isn't that tall, it will just add a little weight. But then again the Tyrolia race bindings weren't light to begin with soooooo...


You can flat mount them, I've seen it done a fair few times. The Tyrolia race plate is a flat deck that is drilled the same way as a flat ski with a screw designed for the plastic in it.

Theres a huge variation in the Tyrolia Race bindings though, the 17 and 18 are different (I have both) The 17 is based off the Peak 15, the older version of the 17 has the diagonal heal. The FF20's are based off the old design with the diagonal heal from memory, not seen a set for years, I have FF13's,17's and Peak 18's and had 15's and 12's.

The Freeflex replaced the flow flex plate system, my 17s are on a flow flex piston plate and don't have the link as it was in the plate.

Heres a pic of the FF20 free flex flat mounted from TGR.
Nov 19 2015 7:06PM
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KarlTheKoolKat
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Okay great thanks so much. I have the ff 17s so its the race model. I will flat mount them then.
Nov 20 2015 1:52AM
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haggis_hunter
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Just make sure you have the freelex set for your boot size before you bolt anything down. Aside from that the actual mountings on the Tryolia Race bindings are (different screws for the race plate due to its thickness) they interface with with ski in the same manner as a flat deck.
Nov 20 2015 8:33AM
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KarlTheKoolKat
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LamafamaJust make sure you have the freelex set for your boot size before you bolt anything down. Aside from that the actual mountings on the Tryolia Race bindings are (different screws for the race plate due to its thickness) they interface with with ski in the same manner as a flat deck.

Right, yeah so I can use the screws which screwed the bindings into the race plate right (to use to flat mount the bindings) Or should I use the ones in the race plate?
Nov 20 2015 11:17AM
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haggis_hunter
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KarlTheKoolKatRight, yeah so I can use the screws which screwed the bindings into the race plate right (to use to flat mount the bindings) Or should I use the ones in the race plate?


Neither, you need the binding screws from the peak series, find a shop that can get you the right ones or use binding freedom inserts.

The screws for the race plates I had were longer and would punch through the skis core. My race plates were about 1.5cm thick.
Nov 20 2015 3:33PM
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KarlTheKoolKat
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LamafamaNeither, you need the binding screws from the peak series, find a shop that can get you the right ones or use binding freedom inserts.

The screws for the race plates I had were longer and would punch through the skis core. My race plates were about 1.5cm thick.


How do the inserts work exactly? I mean how do you screw them in/out..
Nov 20 2015 5:18PM
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haggis_hunter
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KarlTheKoolKatHow do the inserts work exactly? I mean how do you screw them in/out..


They mount into the ski and you fix the bindings to them with a machine screw which you can remove and re fit, they are meant to work in a few ways.

1 so you can swap the same set of bindings between multiple pairs of skis as and when you need to save on the cost of bindings.

2 to allow you run touring and alpine bindings on the same ski.

3 to allow different mount locations if you do not wish to use a schizo binding.

4 to fix pullouts where you can use them the same way as a heli coil.
Nov 21 2015 9:40AM
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