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Stadtski
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I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with Yale right now, but basically the administration and the main student government basically is blatantly ignoring issues of equality when it comes to skin color, but putting out tremendous support for other issues such as when someone drew a swastika on the pavement in one of the quads. One of my friends goes there and said that most of the African American and Asian Professors have announced they are leaving at the end of the semester, because they aren't supported by the University. There are people in the quads protesting and stuff its pretty wild. I can't believe that one of the worlds most prestigious schools could be so intolerant still.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/encouraging-cultural-sensitivity-isnt-censorship/415185/
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Nov 10 2015 3:36PM
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Stadtski
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BenWhitShe's from Fairfield, CT (a pretty well-off town, I have numerous acquaintances from that town) and the appraised value of her home is three quarters of a million dollars hahahahaha victim my eye!


Her daddy owns your daddy.
Nov 11 2015 12:47PM
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The.Natty.VeganHow is it ironic? I'm not calling her out for being PC, I'm calling her out for losing her temper and yelling. Which benefits no one.


It's just so strong with this one.
Nov 11 2015 12:58PM
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BenWhitShe's from Fairfield, CT (a pretty well-off town, I have numerous acquaintances from that town) and the appraised value of her home is three quarters of a million dollars hahahahaha victim my eye!


I used to skate there all the time I lived about 20 minutes away from there. She's looks super familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it where I know her from.
Nov 11 2015 12:59PM
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BenWhit
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Rosa_ParkHer daddy owns your daddy.


haha, I wouldn't doubt it!
Nov 11 2015 1:02PM
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nocturnalIt's just so strong with this one.


well considering you only know me from my posts on NS, and disagreeing with someone now is apparently considered yelling and losing your temper by your judgement. Then yes it's ironic. But considering that I don't yell at people nor do I lose my temper when talking to people about social issues we disagree on then by all standard measures of the term ironic, it's not ironic.
Nov 11 2015 1:07PM
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foolmetwice
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nocturnalI think this in the conversation is where things start to get people upset. You have a lot of people in America that are blue collar workers working 70 hours a week having trouble making ends meet. They're standing there asking where's my privilege and benefit for being white.

For the most part I do agree that it is easier to be white in today's time, but when you start to make a generalization saying all people are advantage by it I think that's where you start to get in trouble.


While I agree that there are levels of privelege according to (economic) class I think that privelege or lack of it is seperate from white privilege that you get automaticlly according to how close you are to the social construct of whiteness. Because the social construct of whiteness has more to do with being part of a dominator class than the actual color of your skin, it would make sense that poorer white skinned people would experience less privelege, but their economic level doesn't exempt them from basic priveleges that come from having white skin.
Nov 11 2015 1:22PM
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boppin
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All I see in this Yale debacle is a bunch of obviously privileged kids complaining about not being privileged.
Nov 11 2015 1:43PM
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RusticlesThis is about halloween costumes???


They were trick or treating somebody didn't give them candy because they were too old, they though it was because they were black, a riot ensued, and now half of yale is in flames.
Nov 11 2015 1:58PM
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APSheWantsTheDWhile I agree that there are levels of privelege according to (economic) class I think that privelege or lack of it is seperate from white privilege that you get automaticlly according to how close you are to the social construct of whiteness. Because the social construct of whiteness has more to do with being part of a dominator class than the actual color of your skin, it would make sense that poorer white skinned people would experience less privelege, but their economic level doesn't exempt them from basic priveleges that come from having white skin.


You're grouping all people into one and I disagree.
Nov 11 2015 1:58PM
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Stadtski
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APSheWantsTheDWhile I agree that there are levels of privelege according to (economic) class I think that privelege or lack of it is seperate from white privilege that you get automaticlly according to how close you are to the social construct of whiteness. Because the social construct of whiteness has more to do with being part of a dominator class than the actual color of your skin, it would make sense that poorer white skinned people would experience less privelege, but their economic level doesn't exempt them from basic priveleges that come from having white skin.


Are you saying that skin color has greater affect or money? I am confused.
Nov 11 2015 2:25PM
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Rusticles
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AlsoKnownAsThey were trick or treating somebody didn't give them candy because they were too old, they though it was because they were black, a riot ensued, and now half of yale is in flames.


Wow, I agree with the guy saying "we are watching america burn"
Nov 11 2015 2:49PM
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J.D.
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Campuses in the United States (and probably elsewhere, really) have degenerated into a cesspool of morons who don't actually want to think about anything but are anxious to be told what they should think about everything, and then yell obscenities at those who disagree with them. They're violently in favour of every possible kind of diversity except for diversity of thought.

Yes, freedom of ideas IS more important than not offending minorities. This shouldn't be difficult to see. It's really the only thing that's non-negotiable. People are free to be horribly, horribly wrong about things, so that their wrongness can be corrected. If not offending minorities is important, and to some degree it certainly is, then it'll be easy to convince everyone of that importance using ideas. Not censorship or mob rule.

I am really, really starting to despise my own side of the political spectrum. Actually, I'm starting to suspect it's been entirely hijacked at the youth level. It used to be that the conservatives were the ones obsessed with controlling the behaviours of other people - stop sleeping with certain people, stop watching violent TV or playing violent video games, enjoying sex is immoral and you should be pure and nun-like, etc. Now religious justifications for those sorts of authoritarian dicta are out of fashion, so we're going to justify our urge to control other people under the new guise of political correctness or safe spaces or whatever term you'd like to use.

Just shamefully illiberal fascistic behavior.
Nov 11 2015 6:49PM
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Stadtski
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J.D.morons


in most cases, they do have to be at least smart enough to get in, (unless they get in on money or legacy) but yes I agree with the rest.
Nov 12 2015 7:13AM
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http://sostrenews.com/junior-class-president-at-claremont-mckenna-college-resigns-over-racially-insensitive-halloween-photo/

I hate the overly-PC culture.
Nov 12 2015 8:27AM
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Rosa_Parkin most cases, they do have to be at least smart enough to get in, (unless they get in on money or legacy) but yes I agree with the rest.


Being book smart is one thing, lacking common sense and good judgement is another.
Nov 12 2015 9:49AM
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BenWhitShe's from Fairfield, CT (a pretty well-off town, I have numerous acquaintances from that town) and the appraised value of her home is three quarters of a million dollars hahahahaha victim my eye!


BenWhitthis is the student form Mizzou that went on a hunger strike to have the president removed from his position. his father made $8.4M last year.

http://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/the-mizzou-hunger-strike-kid-has-been-outed-as-being-the-child-of-a-multimillionaire-family/


just because someone's family has a certain amount of wealth doesn't mean they just stop being black...

i'm not disputing that the yale chick acted ridiculously (because she did), but implying that the general african-american experience of racism doesn't apply to someone if they're financially successful is equally absurd.

we've seen plenty of professional athletes have racial slurs tossed at them, is it somehow different because they're rich?
Nov 12 2015 10:18AM
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seanahue.just because someone's family has a certain amount of wealth doesn't mean they just stop being black...

i'm not disputing that the yale chick acted ridiculously (because she did), but implying that the general african-american experience of racism doesn't apply to someone if they're financially successful is equally absurd.

we've seen plenty of professional athletes have racial slurs tossed at them, is it somehow different because they're rich?


Being called something because you're on a rival sports team, and growing up in the rich affluent area of Greenwich Connecticut is not the same comparison.
Nov 12 2015 10:26AM
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seanahue.just because someone's family has a certain amount of wealth doesn't mean they just stop being black...

i'm not disputing that the yale chick acted ridiculously (because she did), but implying that the general african-american experience of racism doesn't apply to someone if they're financially successful is equally absurd.

we've seen plenty of professional athletes have racial slurs tossed at them, is it somehow different because they're rich?


I did not mean to be insensitive to their race, but their message of being down-trodden falls on deaf ears (mine at least) when they come from families and communities of great privilege, regardless of color. You message falls on deaf ears when you are accepted into an exclusive, Ivy League university. Your message falls on deaf ears when you have excelled so much in the face of "institutional racism" that you are now pursuing a graduate degree. Race did not hold your father back from becoming an executive at a rail-road company, earning several million dollars per year. Race did not hold you family back from flourishing in a wealthy community like Fairfield, CT. You were fed with a silver spoon.

I have tried to stay connected to these events, but I still have not hear one definitive example of institutional racism at these schools.

Now Emory has joined the fight.

http://emorywheel.com/students-protest-racism-on-clifton-road-list-demands-for-administration/

I'm sorry, but these students are coddled and administrators stepping down in the face of these protests only perpetuates the notion that college students are dictating the social climate and simply cannot stand to be offended.

President Obama said it best...

“I don’t agree that you when you become students at colleges have to be coddled and protected from different points of view… I think you should be able to…anybody who comes to speak to you and you disagree with, you should have an argument with them. But you shouldn’t silence them by saying “you can’t come because I’m too sensitive to hear what you have to say”
Nov 12 2015 10:31AM
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seanahue.just because someone's family has a certain amount of wealth doesn't mean they just stop being black...

i'm not disputing that the yale chick acted ridiculously (because she did), but implying that the general african-american experience of racism doesn't apply to someone if they're financially successful is equally absurd.

we've seen plenty of professional athletes have racial slurs tossed at them, is it somehow different because they're rich?


Being wealthy insulates a person from the evil in life. Sure the kid might have experienced a small measure of racism here or there , bit no where near the scale that an average black kid experiences.

It's awkward when a kid from a wealthy family talks about wealth inequality based on learning that he actually had a budget while in college so he has experience being poor. Kinda similar to what people think of this guy.
Nov 12 2015 10:39AM
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nocturnalBeing called something because you're on a rival sports team, and growing up in the rich affluent area of Greenwich Connecticut is not the same comparison.


I've seen people drop n-bombs on the athletes that play for the team that they're fans of. My point is that when someone of color is the recipient of a racial remark, their financial status doesn't all of a sudden make the comment less racist.

BenWhitI did not mean to be insensitive to their race, but their message of being down-trodden falls on deaf ears (mine at least) when they come from families and communities of great privilege, regardless of color. You message falls on deaf ears when you are accepted into an exclusive, Ivy League university. Your message falls on deaf ears when you have excelled so much in the face of "institutional racism" that you are now pursuing a graduate degree. Race did not hold your father back from becoming an executive at a rail-road company, earning several million dollars per year. Race did not hold you family back from flourishing in a wealthy community like Fairfield, CT. You were fed with a silver spoon.

I have tried to stay connected to these events, but I still have not hear one definitive example of institutional racism at these schools.

Now Emory has joined the fight.

http://emorywheel.com/students-protest-racism-on-clifton-road-list-demands-for-administration/

I'm sorry, but these students are coddled and administrators stepping down in the face of these protests only perpetuates the notion that college students are dictating the social climate and simply cannot stand to be offended.

President Obama said it best...

“I don’t agree that you when you become students at colleges have to be coddled and protected from different points of view… I think you should be able to…anybody who comes to speak to you and you disagree with, you should have an argument with them. But you shouldn’t silence them by saying “you can’t come because I’m too sensitive to hear what you have to say”


I understand your perspective, but I think you're discounting the fact that there are different types of racism out there, and each campus that we're talking about has different contexts to which these different types apply. Frankly, I don't know enough about what is happening at Yale or Emory to comment. But for the case of Mizzou, and the hunger-strike guy specifically, his protest is in response to acts of overt racism many of the students on campus have experienced (graffiti swastikas etc etc), and the institutional failure of the university to acknowledge and handle them accordingly.

The problem with the Mizzou protests (that I think you're expressing) is that it started with one person protesting with a specific intention, and then that specific intention got hijacked, hashtagged, and became an outlet for general anger and discontent towards society at-large.
Nov 12 2015 11:13AM
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J.D.
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seanahue.But for the case of Mizzou, and the hunger-strike guy specifically, his protest is in response to acts of overt racism many of the students on campus have experienced (graffiti swastikas etc etc), and the institutional failure of the university to acknowledge and handle them accordingly.

Is there any evidence that any of this actually happened? I mean, honestly, first of all, it's not like this is some serious horrible offense calling for a major protest. If someone wants to draw a swastika, the correct answer is to point out that they shouldn't do that for (begin long list of reasons), and maybe call them an asshole if you want to be really clear about things.

But honestly, it seems more like another instance of the SUPER high demand for Nazis at North American universities. There's a very short supply of Nazis these days and it seems like they're wanted everywhere. Everyone seems to desperately need there to be Nazis around so that they can fight the Nazis and be clearly defined as anti-Nazi.

Like... okay guys, I was just sort of taking it for granted that basically everyone is against this and we don't particularly need demonstrations asserting it. But if you really want to show the world what caring, moral people you are, you're really setting a low bar for yourselves to clear, here.
Nov 12 2015 12:18PM
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mfw waiting for the world to end

Nov 12 2015 2:33PM
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seanahue.
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J.D.Is there any evidence that any of this actually happened? I mean, honestly, first of all, it's not like this is some serious horrible offense calling for a major protest. If someone wants to draw a swastika, the correct answer is to point out that they shouldn't do that for (begin long list of reasons), and maybe call them an asshole if you want to be really clear about things.

But honestly, it seems more like another instance of the SUPER high demand for Nazis at North American universities. There's a very short supply of Nazis these days and it seems like they're wanted everywhere. Everyone seems to desperately need there to be Nazis around so that they can fight the Nazis and be clearly defined as anti-Nazi.

Like... okay guys, I was just sort of taking it for granted that basically everyone is against this and we don't particularly need demonstrations asserting it. But if you really want to show the world what caring, moral people you are, you're really setting a low bar for yourselves to clear, here.


The swastika thing is one small example of what is a long line of serious instances (most of which are not related to Nazis at all), but its been over-reported because it makes people go "Oh shit! Nazis!" and gets them to watch/read/listen to more of the story. Racism and Nazism often go hand in hand, but I don't think there's a strong correlation here in regards to the Mizzou campus. Unfortunately that still doesn't stop media outlets from using the swastika as click-bait. I kinda glossed over the whole thing with 'swastikas etc etc' because it was just a concise way of conveying that there are extremely overt racist happenings there.

I referenced the swastika because that is the particular example that our national media is running away with (sensationalist reporting, figures). But considering the Mizzou campus is not far at all from Ferguson (where the Michael Brown protests occurred), there has been months, years, and probably decades of racial tension in that area, definitely moreso than most places in our country. Read some of this article ( http://www.usnews.com/news/sports/articles/2015/11/10/ferguson-protests-influence-actions-at-u-of-missouri ) and I think it will give you a better idea of the climate there. I mean, the police arrested some kid this week for making terrorist death threats on a messaging app (Yik Yak or whatever its called); he said "I'm going to stand my ground, and shoot every black person I see". That's some very real, very serious shit.
Nov 12 2015 3:11PM
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J.D.
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First of all, I don't doubt there are racial tensions in the area. But that narrative doesn't somehow give license to react to different facts that exist in a specific situation on a campus. "There's racism in the world, therefore this shit is okay" is standard narrative-based politics where the broader story of combating perceived injustice at large in society apparently trumps atrocious, shitty behavior on the micro scale.

Also I didn't literally mean Nazis, although that seems to pop up a lot. People just want something to crusade against, generally, and it must be evil like Nazis are evil. No nuance or anything, just, whatever we're against, that's what evil is.

Almost guaranteed nonsense.
Nov 12 2015 4:21PM
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Nov 12 2015 4:39PM
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Laurent.


Haha this thing doesn't even know... Cal and Stanfurd, and probably more on this list don't even seem to follow any guidelines...

Example? My cousin with a 4.4 out of high school got into Stanford, NYU, Tufts, and Colombia and not Cal...

and then her sister, with a 3.9 got into Cal, but not Stanford or Tufts or Colombia...



It's all a fucking crapshoot.
Nov 17 2015 11:19PM
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Snowgoner
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http://www.businessinsider.com/alan-dershowitz-thinks-student-protesters-dont-want-true-diversity-in-colleges-2015-11
Famous Harvard professor came out in the face of political correctness and said what many people have been too scared to say.

I remember reading someone in this thread say that Caucasian males should not weigh in on these issues, because immune from institutionalized racism. Brilliant, let's just discredit millions of objective viewpoints! What an incredible phenomenon it is that merit and validity are automatically given to those who cry 'racism', ultimately discrediting the opinion of white people blessed by 'privilege'. Yes there is some degree of institutionalized racism. However, I believe that these college crusaders are creating a whole new - and potentially just as impactful - institutional disadvantage. Anyone who opposes these movements for that matter are encouraged (forced?) to suppress instinctual criticisms and objectivity.

The infringement upon the free exchange of ideas is significantly more harmful to an educational establishment than some lone fucktard writing a swastika in chalk. But I think most you already knew that
Nov 19 2015 11:20AM
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DingoSeanHaha this thing doesn't even know... Cal and Stanfurd, and probably more on this list don't even seem to follow any guidelines...

Example? My cousin with a 4.4 out of high school got into Stanford, NYU, Tufts, and Colombia and not Cal...

and then her sister, with a 3.9 got into Cal, but not Stanford or Tufts or Colombia...



It's all a fucking crapshoot.


That is for law schools, and 1 empirical example doesn't really represent college admissions well.
Nov 19 2015 11:24AM
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Snowgoner
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Shewlur...http://www.businessinsider.com/alan-dershowitz-thinks-student-protesters-dont-want-true-diversity-in-colleges-2015-11
Famous Harvard professor came out in the face of political correctness and said what many people have been too scared to say.

I remember reading someone in this thread say that Caucasian males should not weigh in on these issues, because immune from institutionalized racism. Brilliant, let's just discredit millions of objective viewpoints! What an incredible phenomenon it is that merit and validity are automatically given to those who cry 'racism', ultimately discrediting the opinion of white people blessed by 'privilege'. Yes there is some degree of institutionalized racism. However, I believe that these college crusaders are creating a whole new - and potentially just as impactful - institutional disadvantage. Anyone who opposes these movements for that matter are encouraged (forced?) to suppress instinctual criticisms and objectivity.


*because they are immune to institutionalized racism

*anyone who opposes these movements are encouraged (forced?) to suppress instinctual criticisms and objectivity
Nov 19 2015 11:24AM
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I think the rubber band is going to snap soon and people are going to start standing up to the SJW. If everyone does it, then what is going to happen? like 95% of people are fed up with it, but those 5% still get their way because of lawyers and shit. Businesses, schools and other organizations are scared shitless of litigation so they have to go with this BS. It's ridiculous, these people cry wolf and know that they'll get their way because these places have to bend over and take it dry from them.

It can't get much worse than this so we'll see...
Nov 19 2015 12:06PM
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Shewlur...http://www.businessinsider.com/alan-dershowitz-thinks-student-protesters-dont-want-true-diversity-in-colleges-2015-11
Famous Harvard professor came out in the face of political correctness and said what many people have been too scared to say.


He makes a good point.

Shewlur...I remember reading someone in this thread say that Caucasian males should not weigh in on these issues, because immune from institutionalized racism. Brilliant, let's just discredit millions of objective viewpoints! What an incredible phenomenon it is that merit and validity are automatically given to those who cry 'racism', ultimately discrediting the opinion of white people blessed by 'privilege'. Yes there is some degree of institutionalized racism. However, I believe that these college crusaders are creating a whole new - and potentially just as impactful - institutional disadvantage. Anyone who opposes these movements for that matter are encouraged (forced?) to suppress instinctual criticisms and objectivity.


Lol hello.

I would go so far as to assume that many of the instinctual criticisms that you're complaining about suppressing are caused by feelings in the peoples' subconscious. Instinctual criticisms are generally not objective viewpoints, as you so claim. Many of those criticisms seem to come in the form of insulting or inflammatory comments from people who are uninformed about the issue (or at least give no evidence or attempt to show that they are, therefore leaving respondents to assume otherwise.).

Of course, everyone should be included in these discussions. It's important that they are open and inclusive. However, I think it's important that certain parties research/learn, listen, and reflect for a little bit longer before contributing. It's a matter of respecting the issue rather than just writing it off.

Alan Dershowitz is well versed in civil rights and diversity - his voice should be heard. The predominantly white male population on a skiing forum? Make a good case that confirms your competence to speak objectively on the issue. Or back up your points with evidence. Or prepare to not be taken seriously because you're probably not qualified to contribute to the discussion on a meaningful level.

People in general think their voice matters so much and needs to be heard. People need to spend more time listening and less time blabbing. I say this is true for all people, but especially so for parties who have little to no firsthand experience with or education about the issue(s).
Nov 19 2015 1:10PM
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Stadtski
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Shewlur...http://www.businessinsider.com/alan-dershowitz-thinks-student-protesters-dont-want-true-diversity-in-colleges-2015-11
Famous Harvard professor came out in the face of political correctness and said what many people have been too scared to say.


Thats an interesting way to look at it
Nov 19 2015 1:11PM
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Lol now Princeton students are conducting a sit in in the president's office until all their demands are met.

Demands
-Rename all buildings bearing the name of former Princeton and US President Woodrow Wilson
-Cultural competency training for faculty
-A mandatory "marginalized peoples" course for students
-Communal space for black students
Nov 19 2015 1:35PM
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forgot this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/11/18/princeton-protesters-occupy-presidents-office-demand-racist-woodrow-wilsons-name-be-removed/
Nov 19 2015 1:36PM
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CirilloLol now Princeton students are conducting a sit in in the president's office until all their demands are met.

Demands
-Rename all buildings bearing the name of former Princeton and US President Woodrow Wilson
-Cultural competency training for faculty
-A mandatory "marginalized peoples" course for students
-Communal space for black students

One of the libraries there is named after a family member of mine beacuse he gave about a hundred million dollars to the school. I don't see my relatives being too stoked about that.....
Nov 19 2015 1:44PM
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CirilloLol now Princeton students are conducting a sit in in the president's office until all their demands are met.

Demands
-Rename all buildings bearing the name of former Princeton and US President Woodrow Wilson


nocturnalOne of the libraries there is named after a family member of mine beacuse he gave about a hundred million dollars to the school. I don't see my relatives being too stoked about that.....


Nevermind I read that as rename all buildings including the ones
Nov 19 2015 1:46PM
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J.D.Yes, freedom of ideas IS more important than not offending minorities. This shouldn't be difficult to see. It's really the only thing that's non-negotiable. People are free to be horribly, horribly wrong about things, so that their wrongness can be corrected. If not offending minorities is important, and to some degree it certainly is, then it'll be easy to convince everyone of that importance using ideas. Not censorship or mob rule.


"Error of opinion is tolerated, when reason is left to combat it" -Thomas Jefferson

I love this quote. You are allowed to be wrong, but as long as you are taught what is right. And, you are allowed to be thought wrong, as long as you have reasoning behind your opinion
Nov 19 2015 2:16PM
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Lol I also know the kid in the yale video who gets dragged out by the cops for protesting at an alumni/board meeting.

He too is a complete, entitled, politically correct shit talker. Both of his parents are lawyers and he jizzes whenever he uses big words or thinks he argues his point well. Also he kisses his dad on the lips when he gets dropped off at school, just a side note.
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J.D.Campuses in the United States (and probably elsewhere, really) have degenerated into a cesspool of morons who don't actually want to think about anything but are anxious to be told what they should think about everything, and then yell obscenities at those who disagree with them. They're violently in favour of every possible kind of diversity except for diversity of thought.

Yes, freedom of ideas IS more important than not offending minorities. This shouldn't be difficult to see. It's really the only thing that's non-negotiable. People are free to be horribly, horribly wrong about things, so that their wrongness can be corrected. If not offending minorities is important, and to some degree it certainly is, then it'll be easy to convince everyone of that importance using ideas. Not censorship or mob rule.

I am really, really starting to despise my own side of the political spectrum. Actually, I'm starting to suspect it's been entirely hijacked at the youth level. It used to be that the conservatives were the ones obsessed with controlling the behaviours of other people - stop sleeping with certain people, stop watching violent TV or playing violent video games, enjoying sex is immoral and you should be pure and nun-like, etc. Now religious justifications for those sorts of authoritarian dicta are out of fashion, so we're going to justify our urge to control other people under the new guise of political correctness or safe spaces or whatever term you'd like to use.

Just shamefully illiberal fascistic behavior.


Very well said.
Nov 21 2015 5:31PM
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J.D.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gr0eJF2-Wc

I don't know how to embed this stuff anymore... Further must-reads:

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/
Nov 22 2015 11:16AM
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J.D.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gr0eJF2-Wc

I don't know how to embed this stuff anymore... Further must-reads:

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/


You're a mod how do you not know how to do that.

[Video] video url here [/video. ] TAKE away the . And space
Nov 22 2015 1:34PM
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Some clips regarding the "regressive left"

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/795876/A-War-of-Ideas--Maajid-Nawaz--amp--Sam-Harris-discuss-the-future-of-tolerance

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/795877/Real-Time-with-Bill-Maher--Richard-Dawkins----------Regressive-Leftists--HBO-

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/795878/Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali-on-the-Regressive-Left
Nov 23 2015 7:32AM
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SFB
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sweet more butthurt babbies crying about the world not being fair.
Nov 23 2015 3:32PM
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theBearJewYes. A faculty member wrote a email that had a lot of valid points basically telling schools to trust their students will make the correct decisions when doing things that may offend someone. And she got tons of shit for it because shes insensitive.

Read her email here. https://www.thefire.org/email-from-erika-christakis-dressing-yourselves-email-to-silliman-college-yale-students-on-halloween-costumes/


I completely agree with everything in the email and don't see how anyone could draw racism from it? He laid it out so clearly and it made perfect sense. How did she get into Yale? Oh yeah, affirmative action.
Nov 23 2015 4:53PM
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