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The Quad Era is ON?

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white.powder
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I know this thread is kinda of a repost but not really...So many of you may have seen recently,the 16 year old snowboarder Marcus Klevelend just land his first a quad cork...so is this the start of a new era where triple corks are just a standard trick for a pro? Its sick for him that he land this and only 16 years old but...kinda think that this is not that good for the community, will the standard in 2 years will be doing triples at 11 years old? will style even be a factor of getting spansered or going pro? I think it is kinda not fair for everyone that wants to get in bigger and bigger comps because one day, you'll probablly have to do triples(or quads) constatly if you even want to be on xgames or those kind of big comps. We'll see...What do you think? I hope kids will look more at creative and stylish skier more than future spinner, but that's my opinion.
Nov 5 2015 10:37PM
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eheath
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There are many pro skiers that can't triple and the ones that can triple barely do so. I doubt quads will have any place in skiing or even snowboarding. You need a very specific jump in a perfect situation. I doubt that kid wants to ever do a quad cork again.
Nov 5 2015 11:00PM
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skierman
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Frostgun Invitational is gonna be interdasting...

and no, you're wrong Eheath.
Nov 5 2015 11:08PM
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Zimmy
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Are people quadding on skiboards? I'm sure if if kids got shorter skis, they could quad easier, they'd just have more need to need to stick the landing.
Nov 5 2015 11:13PM
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Mingg
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eheathThere are many pro skiers that can't triple and the ones that can triple barely do so.


So is it one of those tricks that they'll only do sometimes in certain situations?
In gymnastics we had tricks like that. Skills you'd train but only actually did on the days of comps.

Just curious if it's the same way in skiing. I mean, all we really see is stuff that's filmed, so it's hard to know the background. Like is this something they do everyday or strictly for film? Do they have to have a special jump built to do it or can they triple anywhere? Like in my opinion all that stuff matters.

Being able to do something, doing something consistently, and being confident in doing it are all different things to me. So it would be interesting to see where triples fall in there.
Nov 5 2015 11:21PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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Nov 5 2015 11:26PM
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eheath
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MinggSo is it one of those tricks that they'll only do sometimes in certain situations?
In gymnastics we had tricks like that. Skills you'd train but only actually did on the days of comps.

Just curious if it's the same way in skiing. I mean, all we really see is stuff that's filmed, so it's hard to know the background. Like is this something they do everyday or strictly for film? Do they have to have a special jump built to do it or can they triple anywhere? Like in my opinion all that stuff matters.

Being able to do something, doing something consistently, and being confident in doing it are all different things to me. So it would be interesting to see where triples fall in there.


Everyone I've talked to about doing triples they are usually terrified and say they never want to actually do them but they can so they do. It doesn't sound like alot of fun haha while on the other hand they definitely enjoy doing news doubles etc.
Nov 5 2015 11:37PM
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Justin113
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i personally hope that quads dont become a staple trick to know
Nov 5 2015 11:59PM
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saskskier
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eheathThere are many pro skiers that can't triple and the ones that can triple barely do so. I doubt quads will have any place in skiing or even snowboarding. You need a very specific jump in a perfect situation. I doubt that kid wants to ever do a quad cork again.


I'm inclined to agree with you. It's going to be like the double cork to rail. Doable and pretty nifty, but not something that's going to happen on a regular basis outside of specific circumstances.
Nov 6 2015 12:26AM
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VANULAR
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Justin113i personally hope that quads dont become a staple trick to know


I really cant wait till some kids do all way triples and quads & hit the plateau of physical limitations....... you will see a huge fallout from kids signing up for competitive programs out of fear or loosing interest and it will force the sport to make a much needed change in formats... we cant just keep flipping and flipping... not many kids will dedicate a life of training to have to drop in and throw a quad every weekend.... Thats stressful and not really what freeskiing is about...
Nov 6 2015 12:42AM
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Gr0mo
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VANULARI really cant wait till some kids do all way triples and quads & hit the plateau of physical limitations....... you will see a huge fallout from kids signing up for competitive programs out of fear or loosing interest and it will force the sport to make a much needed change in formats... we cant just keep flipping and flipping... not many kids will dedicate a life of training to have to drop in and throw a quad every weekend.... Thats stressful and not really what freeskiing is about...


interesting thought. Maybe what we hate so much about comp skiing will actually save it in the end.
Nov 6 2015 8:53AM
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CQBMN
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Whoever does it should make a documentary out of it, like the Nitro Circus one about the bike quad flip.
Nov 6 2015 9:50AM
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FUUUCK
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VANULARI really cant wait till some kids do all way triples and quads & hit the plateau of physical limitations....... you will see a huge fallout from kids signing up for competitive programs out of fear or loosing interest and it will force the sport to make a much needed change in formats... we cant just keep flipping and flipping... not many kids will dedicate a life of training to have to drop in and throw a quad every weekend.... Thats stressful and not really what freeskiing is about...


We're getting there. Evan and Nick both have right and left side triples.
Nov 6 2015 10:39AM
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GrandThings
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Even though I'd say I'm fairly against the whole "spin-to-win" movement, not gunna lie, I was excited to watch this quad-cork. I think all of us, even those who push for a more stylistic approach to snow sports get a little excited to see how far the boundaries can be pushed.

-However-

Albeit sick, and gnarly as hell, Klevelends quad shows why this sort of jump wont be frequent or even possible on a competition level. The jump and conditions were absolutely perfect. He's a small 16 year old riding (what I thought to be) a very undersized board. Also his grab is two handed in between his bindings. Literally a cannonball hurling/spinning through the air. I'm doubtful this will ever be replicated on a mass level. Not to mention the arguments about how "corked" his last two rotations were. Anyways for me, the impressive-ness of the trick to me was how much courage it probably took to try it rather than the actual trick itself, which I found to be fairly underwhelming.
Nov 6 2015 10:53AM
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joey.badass
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Fuck quads and triples, you want to do that many flips go join the aerial team. Back in the day the Schrabs used to get bagged on and shitty scores for doing 2 flips but its ok to do quads in our sports now? And C-van is on point as well.
Nov 6 2015 11:02AM
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VinniCash
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the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Nov 6 2015 11:07AM
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brov1
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VinniCashthe juice isn't worth the squeeze.

this is the best analogy ive ever heard
Nov 6 2015 11:30AM
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TaariqSaffouri
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Skiing should go back to style. Like who can do the steeziest dub instead of who can huck the gnarliest trip, while people are getting injured to the point where they can't ski anymore because they are trying to push the sport to unrealistic limits.
Nov 6 2015 11:59AM
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skebumw
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I'm just saying for those of you who don't want triples and quads to be regular it sounds pretty pussyish to not want the sport to progress just so you can be a pro. If your not willing to put in the training and work to progress this much you don't deserve to be pro. You cant expect the sport to wait up for you.
Nov 6 2015 12:08PM
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K_Locks
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white.powderI know this thread is kinda of a repost but not really...So many of you may have seen recently,the 16 year old snowboarder Marcus Klevelend just land his first a quad cork...so is this the start of a new era where triple corks are just a standard trick for a pro? Its sick for him that he land this and only 16 years old but...kinda think that this is not that good for the community, will the standard in 2 years will be doing triples at 11 years old? will style even be a factor of getting spansered or going pro? I think it is kinda not fair for everyone that wants to get in bigger and bigger comps because one day, you'll probablly have to do triples(or quads) constatly if you even want to be on xgames or those kind of big comps. We'll see...What do you think? I hope kids will look more at creative and stylish skier more than future spinner, but that's my opinion.



I have seen Marcus Klevelend just land his first quad cork. It was amazing, but just because he is young and did that I dont believe that it is a start of a new era. All the people I know who snowboard can do that too. I just think they are scared to and congrats Marcus on landing that.
Nov 6 2015 12:37PM
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MLJ
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skiermanFrostgun Invitational is gonna be interdasting...

and no, you're wrong Eheath.


Ok, I've seen you and ar6 in the span of 10 minutes. What is going on?


(I've been away for a while)
Nov 6 2015 12:51PM
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jps2.0
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Marcus Cleveland did the quad on the same jump for the public at stub
it wasn't built for him
Nov 6 2015 5:12PM
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Jibberino
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TaariqSaffouriSkiing should go back to style. Like who can do the steeziest dub instead of who can huck the gnarliest trip, while people are getting injured to the point where they can't ski anymore because they are trying to push the sport to unrealistic limits.


Replace dub with cork, and you'd think we were back in 2009. The sport progresses, whether we like it or not. However, there is a physical limit, and I think C-Van is on to something. At one point there will be some sort of backlash against progression through more flips or rotations, simply because it will be too dangerous and not worth it. We might be getting close to that limit, but who knows. I'm not worried though, the people involved in our lifestyle are pushing it in many different directions, I think it's an exciting time to be a skier.
Nov 6 2015 5:43PM
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kohlfreeskier
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I still think that a quad line of lip on blind 2 will win any competition. Quad cork will be seen as backup and security for the Gold Medal.
Nov 6 2015 6:37PM
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Drail
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TaariqSaffouriSkiing should go back to style. Like who can do the steeziest dub instead of who can huck the gnarliest trip, while people are getting injured to the point where they can't ski anymore because they are trying to push the sport to unrealistic limits.


I'm confused. When was skiing just about style? Freestyle skiing has always been about both style AND progression. I mean, if it was just about style at some point in its history, the double cork would never of happened. Hell, only a few years ago, no one thought doubles had style. None of what you said makes any sense.


Kids say the darnedest things.
Nov 6 2015 6:48PM
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CharlzHub
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i haven't seen passenger by legs of steel yet. was that a quad or not?
Nov 6 2015 8:08PM
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mcswizzle
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Is the Quad Era the period when skiers stop looking to snowboarding for inspiration? Does not really seem like many skiers are trying "catch up" to snowboarding this time around... lookin at you Swiss Freeski Team.

Pretty weird the "Quad Era" coincides with Windells going skier specific, definitely an interesting moment in the sports and their relationship though. When will Disney roll out with Blake Earthquake (can't think of rhyming natural disasters), the story of a water skier who moves to the mountains and has a run in with a group of pretentious snowboarders?
Nov 6 2015 8:38PM
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