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cool_nameGirls tend to attend universities more than guys and get higher grades http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/women-are-now-a-third-more-likely-than-men-to-opt-to-go-to-university-according-to-ucas-application-9097135.html
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/04/girls-grades.aspx
Pay gap http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-earn-more-men-same-age-study-finds
Sure that is the case in a mechanic shop, not like a simalar thing won't happen if a guy goes into a jewerally store or even a gaper into a skistore, that is just related to actual fact that those people tend to know less and therefore it is a chance for the salesperson to up sell easier
cool_nameGirls tend to attend universities more than guys and get higher grades http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/women-are-now-a-third-more-likely-than-men-to-opt-to-go-to-university-according-to-ucas-application-9097135.html
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2014/04/girls-grades.aspx
Pay gap http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-earn-more-men-same-age-study-finds
Sure that is the case in a mechanic shop, not like a simalar thing won't happen if a guy goes into a jewerally store or even a gaper into a skistore, that is just related to actual fact that those people tend to know less and therefore it is a chance for the salesperson to up sell easier
Mingghttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/790796/Lauren-Southern--Why-I-am-not-a-feminist
This is why I am against this "feminist" movement.
Men deserve rights.
Women deserve rights.
Minorities deserve rights.
Whites deserve rights rights.
We are all people and we all deserve equal fucking rights.
S.J.WOkay, so as long as a woman stays in her 20's and remains single she can rule the world. Got it. As for hte other years of her life, she will experience a pay gap. I don't know how this is still a myth, when Francine D Bleau debunked it and won the IZA price in labour economics for her study on the gender pay gap. And since I know you're not going to read it, it basically factors in all the variables. And still finds a 6% unexplained pay gap.
MinggIsn't that explained because women generally cant work/stay home to care from their children? Not that that is any fault of a woman, but we also can't expect to get the same rate of pay as someone(men and other women) who's work haven't been put on hold for something else...
S.J.WFrancine D Bleau study basically factored in every variable. Including education, age, marital status, kids, years in workforce, etc,etc and still found a 6% pay gap.
Bill.NyeProceed.
S.J.WOkay, so as long as a woman stays in her 20's and remains single she can rule the world. Got it. As for hte other years of her life, she will experience a pay gap. I don't know how this is still a myth, when Francine D Bleau debunked it and won the IZA price in labour economics for her study on the gender pay gap. And since I know you're not going to read it, it basically factors in all the variables. And still finds a 6% unexplained pay gap.
https://web.stanford.edu/group/scspi/_media/pdf/key_issues/gender_research.pdf
But beyond that is that why when we talk about equality it's men vs woman. Why can't it be men and woman vs the oppression both of them experience. I consider myself both a feminist and a mens right activist. I don't want my future wife to experience less pay because of her vagina and I don't want to question whether or not I will see my kids if we ever get a divorce. There's problems on both sides of the sexes and we're doing nobody any favours by fighting each other.
nocturnalWhat you don't understand is that older generations were oppressed but girls who are now our age are treated equally and overtime with the older generations die out, and board members retire this will no longer be an issue. These girls in their early twenties need to take the time to work their way up the corporate ladder. As someone in his early twenties I don't see this pay gap and discrimination you keep talking about my dad's generation definitely saw it. Now that I come to think of it most of the girls that I know are doing much better off than the guys I know still living home with their parents.
S.J.WIt's almost like there's a systematic way of thinking that men are better than women at science???
MinggThat's what feminism claims to be. I just don't think it's fair to generalize all women as oppressed or all men as privileged.
Women don't have it all bad.
WillowsAlso.. please don't.. Making yourself look like an arse is not going to help you.. Just a little tip for your future debates... Now please let this debate rest for god's sake!
nocturnalWhat you don't understand is that older generations were oppressed but girls who are now our age are treated equally
S.J.Wahhh yes, your classic my personal anecdotes trump a study which won the IZA labor economic award.
I'm also going to link this Yale study which found that men were more likely to be hired over a woman in the STEM fields and even be offered more money. And yet you still think feminism is pointless? It's almost like there's a systematic way of thinking that men are better than women at science??? But hey what do I know,I'm just a radicalized feminazi who wants men to be obsolete and for woman to rule the world.
http://news.yale.edu/2012/09/24/scientists-not-immune-gender-bias-yale-study-shows
Bill.Nye.
You mught have a critique of "white feminism" (which most feminists correctly recognize as a garbage ideology) but not feminism.
nocturnalthis was my point not talking about other country's or fgm, swj like to talk about white college girls not being treated the same as all men.
Bill.NyeWell it doesn't make much sense to have an intellectual masturbatory session about FGM (which is illegal in Nigeria btw) when there's an epidemic of rape going on right where you are.
You should focus first and foremost on issues that you can actually do something about.
Introspection is hard though, it's much easier to condemn the bad actions of others.
Bill.NyeBy the way, the use of "social justice warrior" as a pejorative directed at feminists or other social activists originated from people who are LITERALLY Nazis.
So at this point I just assume anyone who calls people an "SJW" is effectively a nazi.
Bill.NyeAll women are oppressed because of their gender and all men are privileged because of their gender, but men and women both can be privileged or oppressed in other ways. This is why feminists talk about "intersectionality," which means recognizing and understanding forms of oppression and domination other than gender, including but not limited to class, race, ability, national origin and sexual sexual orientation.
You mught have a critique of "white feminism" (which most feminists correctly recognize as a garbage ideology) but not feminism.
Note: saying that white feminism is garbage is not the same as saying all white feminists are garbage, just the ones who ignore all forms of oppression other than gender.
nocturnalRape actually been on the decline in America since 1995
nocturnalI was literally referring to the ns member S.J.W, but good to know that he refers to himself against the oppression of all Jews, and supports Hitler.
nocturnalAnd Nigeria is just one of the few countries that do it, and Nigeria can not enforce that law. So it is a very serious an ongoing problem that should be dealt with.
nocturnalThe most rape in the USA actually happens in male prisons
Bill.NyeI never mentioned what the trend was, all I said was it was an epidemic, which it is.
Bill.NyeI'm fairly certain I explicitly said "as a pejorative" just so that you couldn't pretend to not know what I was talking about like you just did.
Bill.NyeRight........because men do the most rape, so when you lock a bunch of them up together there's even more rape.
Feminism is concerned with all rape survivors, men and women both. Women are not raping men in prisons though, and neither are feminists.
Bill.Nye(Also, it is simply false that there is more rape in male prisons than there are in the rest of the country. I'd be very interested to see what study gave you that statistic)
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I know what a pejorative term means, because I've seen the second season of Archer when he gets breast cancer, and has to deal with the Honduras janitors.
No that's not true at all, when you lock up Criminal men and put them in prison for life then yes, to equate that to all men freely walking around the street no.
nocturnalIn 2008, it was estimated 216,000 inmates were sexually assaulted while serving time, according to the Department of Justice figures.
That is compared to 90,479 rape cases outside of prison."
Bill.NyeRape is assault.
.....
Did I say anything of that nature or are you projecting it?
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Your [sic] smart man
Bill.NyeMy numbers aren't from the CDC they're from Kilpatrick et al.
Wish I could say the same.
nocturnalAddress one of my point and stop posting up down study of you gargling the author. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/14/study-finds-surprisingly-that-women-are-favored-for-jobs-in-stem/
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3h1ah4/feminist_lives_as_a_man_for_18_months_to_try_to/?sort=confidence
nocturnalI was literally referring to the ns member S.J.W, but good to know that he refers to himself against the oppression of all Jews, and supports Hitler.
S.J.Whahahaha, you're a fucking joke. How are woman meant to be promoted to tenure if they can't even get a job in the STEM fields???
And as for male privilege. I don't get what's so hard to understand. Privilege refers to things you get because of your gender without asking. There is male privilege, there is female privilege, there is black privilege and there is white privilege. What you fail to understand is that white cis males have the largest privileges among the sexes and races. And lol you go on reddit, hahahahahahahah. Nailing the white boy feminist hating stereotype there.
And as for me not talking about FGM. I actually have talked about FGM on this site but if I remember correctly you dismissed it because I live in Canada and not Nigeria.
And as for you saying you're right about not 20% of woman being raped. You are a fucking idiot. I hope when you have a daughter that when she is drunkenly sexually assaulted are you just going to say "well maybe you shouldn't have drunken so much" or something along the lines of "well just because you're drunk doesn't mean you can't consent consent is consent" or will you finally realize how wrong you've been your entire life. You can't sign a contract when you're drunk because you can't make rational decisions, just like drunk consent is not consent. If you think otherwise, don't come crying to NS when you get a rape charge against you.
And lastly, if your posts are so fucking shit that they have been deleted by a mod then you should probably get of newschoolers and educate yourself a little more.
nocturnalSo you promote rape only against girls i know and she hopes she gets raped so I can learn a lesson nice. I guess being I have 5 sister you have gotten your raped wish already. Attempted sexual assalt is not rape but falls under that 20% me trying to make out with a girl while drunk is taking away what rape victims actually go through and conuts in the quesion of that servay. Simple pickup donated 23,000$ to fgm but feminists got upset because it was simple pick up and they made them give back the money. I have never heard you talk about FGM ever I'm the only one to have brought it up in the older threads. Finally ignore my study all you want but I'll be happy to post up my pms with dingo saying he deleted my posts to marginalized me and not give me a voice. Nothing to do with posts being shitty.
S.J.WFourth. Again I tried to find your source about Sample pickup donating 20 grand to Orchid Project. (you really have to learn to post your sources) All I found was them donating about $1,500 to Orchid then a screenshot saying "thanks radical feminists" And if you can't see the problem with a bunch of dudes "raising awareness" about FGM using a sex toy then you are probably an idiot. Donating money is hardly raising awareness. They didn't mention anything about FGM or really didn't raise any awareness, for the most part they just ridiculed the issue down to basic sexualisition of woman.
And I'm not ignoring your study. Getting hired in STEM and getting tenure in STEM are two very different things. And I recognise your study and hopefully the MRM can do something about it. You still failed to answer my question however. How is a woman meant to be promoted to tenure if she still faces discrimination at the hiring level.
And lastly, I have seen your screenshots Dingo sent you. And they were from like a few months ago. Nothing to do with this current conversation here.
But whatever I'm done with you. This will be final ever post back to you as I'd rather cut my ballsack using rubbing alcohol than deal with your stupidity ever again. Bye Felicia.
nocturnalthe doj disagrees with it wounder why rhat is..
Bill.NyeBecause the DoJ doesn't have an interest in proving that it is only able to deal with a minute fraction of all rapes.