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How to tell a regular cork vs. switch cork?

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yu.pang.12
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Is it a cork from athlete viewpoint or from the audiences viewpoint?
For example:
http://www.slvsh.com/posts/268
At 2:35 (if you click full screen), Tom is calling a trick switch cork 9.
But from what I understand, it looks like a switch flatspin 9 or switch rodeo 9.
Usually, the naming is according to the athlete viewpoint, no matter it's regular or switch. That is, the maneuver is almost exactly the same for regular and switch for the same trick.

Can anyone help me on this? Thanks.
Oct 21 2015 12:03AM
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T-Van
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The position of the skier when looking forward matters.

On a cork 7 you'll be laying on your back at 360(facing towars the landing)/on your chest at 180(facing towards the kicker).

On a switch cork 5 you'll be laying on your back at 180(facing towards the landing).

Basically if your facing towards the landing and are laying on your back , it's an cork.
If you're laying on your chest facing towards the landing it's an bio/misty(forward set rotation)

For setting the spins an flatspin/bio 5 will be set the same way as an switch cork 5 on tramp.

An cork 7 will be set the same way as an switch bio/misty 7...
Oct 21 2015 12:10AM
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itswillis21
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The difference between switch rodeo and switch cork is small
Oct 21 2015 12:10AM
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270on420out
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I thought the axis' were reversed for switch tricks. Therefore a switch cork would be thrown over the shoulder towards the landing.
Oct 21 2015 12:20AM
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Mingg
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Sorry not sorry for this newbish question.

So for switch off-axis spins do skiers set it the same way? Or are they different axis's altogether? For a normal (left) cork 7 I know you would set it backwards and down a little bit, like you'd be reaching for blunt/tail. At least thats how I do it on tramp. So when you go to do a sw cork 7 would you still set it back like that? Or would it be set forward since you'd be backwards on take off?
Oct 21 2015 12:26AM
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270on420out
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THEDIRTYBUBBLEI thought the axis' were reversed for switch tricks. Therefore a switch cork would be thrown over the shoulder towards the landing.


wait, nevermind. my reply makes no sense
Oct 21 2015 12:28AM
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Kreech
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Wait, so if sw rodeo and sw cork are almost the same, just with varying degrees of inversion, then is there even such thing as a sw flatspin or is that just not a real trick?
Oct 21 2015 12:57AM
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BROLF
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KreechWait, so if sw rodeo and sw cork are almost the same, just with varying degrees of inversion, then is there even such thing as a sw flatspin or is that just not a real trick?


There are switch rodeos, but switch flatspins aren't really a thing. I would call some of Sammy C's rotations switch flatspins though.
Oct 21 2015 1:02AM
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FUUUCK
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how the fuck does that look like a switch rodeo?
Oct 21 2015 1:45AM
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Dunderflip
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its from the audience's viewpoint. so a switch cork 9 is thrown like a bio 9, switch rodeo is thrown like a misty, etc.
Oct 21 2015 2:13AM
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yu.pang.12
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If it's a custom to name it from the audiences viewpoint, then what is a switch frontflip?
is it a backflip from the athlete viewpoint?
Oct 21 2015 11:42AM
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Kazabazua
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The way I've always thought of it is switch cork your feet don't go over your head, switch rodeo they do.
Oct 21 2015 11:54AM
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BROLF
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Dunderflipswitch rodeo is thrown like a misty, etc.


A good switch rodeo isn't thrown like a misty, it feels more like spin first and let your feet come up in front of you at 180.
Oct 21 2015 12:14PM
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Kazabazua
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BROLFA good switch rodeo isn't thrown like a misty, it feels more like spin first and let your feet come up in front of you at 180.


I agree with both of these statements. It depends what kind of rotation your doing - If you're doing switch rodeo 5 you throw it a little bit like a misty. If you're throwing a switch rodeo 10 you put a lot more spin in it or else you'll end up doing a double or landing on your face.
Oct 21 2015 12:20PM
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broto
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MinggSorry not sorry for this newbish question.

So for switch off-axis spins do skiers set it the same way? Or are they different axis's altogether? For a normal (left) cork 7 I know you would set it backwards and down a little bit, like you'd be reaching for blunt/tail. At least thats how I do it on tramp. So when you go to do a sw cork 7 would you still set it back like that? Or would it be set forward since you'd be backwards on take off?


When I do sw cork 5s and 7s I set it pretty much like a normal spin, but i kick my legs/skis out in front of me/towards the sky. So ideally at 180 I'll just be like parallel to the ground with my chest towards the sky. After that you just look over your shoulder and that sweet sweet landing will come right around. So yeah, sw corks and forward corks do not have the same sets. When I first tried doing switch corks I would set them similar to a forward cork, and I would always end up doing a weird switch bio sort of spin
Oct 21 2015 12:20PM
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BROLF
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KazabazuaI agree with both of these statements. It depends what kind of rotation your doing - If you're doing switch rodeo 5 you throw it a little bit like a misty. If you're throwing a switch rodeo 10 you put a lot more spin in it or else you'll end up doing a double or landing on your face.


Have you ever actually seen a switch rodeo 10? not sure anyone could do it without it just being switch cork 10
Oct 21 2015 12:24PM
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Kazabazua
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BROLFHave you ever actually seen a switch rodeo 10? not sure anyone could do it without it just being switch cork 10


I've done switch rodeo 10's (with some guidance from Chris Turpin, thanks Chris!), they're definitely possible.

I find there is a very fine line between switch cork and switch rodeo - switch cork your feet stay parallel or below your head in the air, switch rodeo they go above your head.
Oct 21 2015 12:59PM
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