Member of the Month

KilaTsunami
October, 2024

Online

Welcome to the Newschoolers forums! You may read the forums as a guest, however you must be a registered member to post. Register to become a member today!

Indiana University Frat Hazing

profile picture
JTCasper540_MN
Posts: 742 - Karma: 3,698
One of Indiana Universitys frat was recently suspended after a video of sexual hazing surfaced on the internet...

http://gawker.com/indiana-university-frat-suspended-after-video-of-possib-1735354012

sooo what are your guys thoughts?
are frats cool and stuff for the charity they do?
are most frats like this?
Oct 8 2015 9:29PM
271 49
profile picture
Snowgoner
Posts: 5047 - Karma: 965
supposedly it was an initiated member, so it wasn't hazing. really gross nonetheless... still don't understand why this is cause for national outrage though. everyone involved was over 18, and none of this appeared to be forced. not a great look for frats, but people need to stop getting offended over stupid shit
Oct 8 2015 9:38PM
14 1
profile picture
S.J.W
Posts: 7609 - Karma: 31,183
As fucked up as it is, there's nothing to be really be outraged about. Yeah it's kinda disgusting and every person in that room should probably have a good hard look at themselves but as long as it was consensual the frat really shouldn't be suspended.
Oct 8 2015 9:46PM
11 0
profile picture
Peter.
Posts: 23796 - Karma: 13,014
typical media blowing something out of proportion. saying he was "forced" with absolutely no proof
Oct 8 2015 10:52PM
10 1
profile picture
Culture+
Posts: 449 - Karma: 2,245
fucking inbred 'follow the heard' types will do anything to gain approval no matter how sadistic it is.
Oct 9 2015 11:13AM
11 1
profile picture
BrothsTopaz
Posts: 225 - Karma: 1,202
I was never a fan of Greek life. I don't own salmon chubbies
Oct 9 2015 11:16AM
12 0
profile picture
J_Berg
Posts: 562 - Karma: 2,031
Two things:
1. My best bud from high school goes to IU and his roommate rushed that frat this fall. My buddy asked his roommate if he was a part of it cuz it looks like him in the video, and he just didnt respond... lololol

2. Frats are really dumb. I don't get it at all, and don't give me that charity reason it's total BS.

3. Random story, going back to the fucked up things they do, my roommates dad rushed this frat at MSU and had to buy a puppy, raise it for a year and then drown it in the river by campus, needless to say the guy had a soul and walked. (with the doge of course)

Okay so I made three points instead of two, eat me
Oct 9 2015 11:25AM
11 3
profile picture
californiagrown
Posts: 9794 - Karma: 2,014
J_BergTwo things:


3. Random story, going back to the fucked up things they do, my roommates dad rushed this frat at MSU and had to buy a puppy, raise it for a year and then drown it in the river by campus, needless to say the guy had a soul and walked. (with the doge of course)


Bahahaha, there is no way. Dude, you got told a tall tale and bought it hook, line, and sinker
Oct 9 2015 11:42AM
14 2
profile picture
maximiliaan
Posts: 7711 - Karma: 2,857
hahaha thats awesome
Oct 9 2015 11:50AM
3 0
profile picture
Toaster-Tony
Posts: 3531 - Karma: 5,850
I'm part of a small, private chapter fraternity and whenever I see stuff like this it never ceases to blow my mind. The pledging process is usually kept secret for the fact that if everyone knew what went on, there would be no spark of interest in it and it would kinda take away of the mystique of pledging itself.

With that being said, private events weren't even close to the same scale as this. It mostly consisted of legitimate team building shit followed by beer drinking and socializing... you know, stuff that actually builds a sense of brotherhood and community. Then, the next morning (which usually was either sat or sun), we'd wake up as a group and drag and our hungover asses to a food shelf or charity drive and put in community service to build our resumes, work experience, and P.R.

I know there are plenty of people who hate fraternities, and after seeing more and more leaks like this, I really can't blame people. I'm not going to deny that there are some fucked up organizations out there that do stuff like this, but in that, we take pride in being a testament that not all fraternities are the same.

As far as I see it, fraternities probably won't be around too much longer. There has been a clear drop in people pledging since incidents like this have come to light. In some cases, it might be for the better, but if my chapter is affected by this, it will be sad to see it dissolve.
Oct 9 2015 4:40PM
4 1
profile picture
987321654hgfd
Posts: 5133 - Karma: 5,447
I ate out a stripper once.
Oct 9 2015 4:58PM
9 0
profile picture
Snowgoner
Posts: 5047 - Karma: 965
J_BergTwo things:

3. Random story, going back to the fucked up things they do, my roommates dad rushed this frat at MSU and had to buy a puppy, raise it for a year and then drown it in the river by campus, needless to say the guy had a soul and walked. (with the doge of course)

/QUOTE]

lol i've heard this story so many times... not true whatsoever
Oct 9 2015 10:59PM
1 0
profile picture
PeppermillReno
Posts: 4787 - Karma: -586
Its paying for friends to fit in.

Hey I get it being a 19 year old sophomore who can't go to the bars makes you want to be part of the big parties. I almost joined ATO (this one) or SAE (racist one) glad I never did. Eating multiple sticks of butter to have friends and being degraded wouldn't have been chill I know what people went through to get into them.


Frat defenders are just the dorky kids in the frat who's only claim to fame or popularity is being in the frat anyone cool is well over it by the time they are seniors.


Surprised more people who quit during rush don't snitch on the frats for what they do to you thats what is shocking not that sheep do it for friends but that the people who get fucked with and don't get in take it without getting some revenge.
Oct 9 2015 11:21PM
4 0
profile picture
Tinga
Posts: 11349 - Karma: 2,333
Toaster-TonyI'm part of a small, private chapter fraternity and whenever I see stuff like this it never ceases to blow my mind. The pledging process is usually kept secret for the fact that if everyone knew what went on, there would be no spark of interest in it and it would kinda take away of the mystique of pledging itself.

With that being said, private events weren't even close to the same scale as this. It mostly consisted of legitimate team building shit followed by beer drinking and socializing... you know, stuff that actually builds a sense of brotherhood and community. Then, the next morning (which usually was either sat or sun), we'd wake up as a group and drag and our hungover asses to a food shelf or charity drive and put in community service to build our resumes, work experience, and P.R.

I know there are plenty of people who hate fraternities, and after seeing more and more leaks like this, I really can't blame people. I'm not going to deny that there are some fucked up organizations out there that do stuff like this, but in that, we take pride in being a testament that not all fraternities are the same.

As far as I see it, fraternities probably won't be around too much longer. There has been a clear drop in people pledging since incidents like this have come to light. In some cases, it might be for the better, but if my chapter is affected by this, it will be sad to see it dissolve.


I mean it all sounds great but why can't you do this stuff on your own?
Oct 9 2015 11:58PM
3 0
profile picture
californiagrown
Posts: 9794 - Karma: 2,014
TingaI mean it all sounds great but why can't you do this stuff on your own?


Logistics make it nearly impossible.

It's like asking why any organization exists. An organization allows a group to profit from the combined resources and talent. Same deal.
Oct 10 2015 12:22AM
4 1
profile picture
deleted5
Posts: 14507 - Karma: 13,507
CirilloI ate out a stripper once.


I was gonna say that has to be a stripper. Why would you ever film that and incriminate yourself and your fraternity?
Oct 10 2015 1:38AM
3 0
profile picture
Toaster-Tony
Posts: 3531 - Karma: 5,850
TingaI mean it all sounds great but why can't you do this stuff on your


Not saying you can't. But at least for me, I'd never thought about volunteering a food drives or shelters before I joined. I ended up pledging my junior year, but for the first two I pretty much was living what I thought was the college dream- drinking and partying non-stop while scraping by in school during the week. I would run into a lot of the guys either at parties or on campus and I even played hockey with a few in high school so I figured it wouldn't hurt to figure out what the hell they did all the time.

I sat down with a couple buddies and got the lowdown on what they stood for and what their schedule looked like and I ultimately decided that I could be using my time outside of class a lot better. I honestly don't think I would have had the drive to get up on Sunday mornings to pack dinners for the homeless or help put on charity events if it wasn't for 10-15 other guys that went with me. Overall it was cool to find a group a guys and girls (sororities) that wanted to have fun throughout college but at the same time, pushed each other to meet grades and build their resumes at the same time.

I know tons of people who have no problem getting up and being productive at the crack of dawn, but for someone like me who struggles to motivate most days of the week, Greek life has definitely helped me get out and apply myself in areas I really never thought I'd get in involved with.
Oct 10 2015 3:42AM
2 0
profile picture
skierman
Posts: 8305 - Karma: 7,433
Oh look another group of entitled spoiled brats doing fucked up things to each other. I'm completely shocked by this. I thought a group of socially inept chadbros who can't make friends on their own without paying for it would make better decisions in life...
Oct 10 2015 9:45AM
7 1
profile picture
ahill
Posts: 75 - Karma: 565
I go to Purdue University, and the jokes this week at school about this had me rolling all week.


For those of you that don't know, we're rival universities and literally hate one another.
Oct 10 2015 8:40PM
2 0
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51514 - Karma: 160,924
Fuck you guys! You don't know the first thing about fraternities. You're all just going off of bullshit you've heard and your shitty opinions about how they're all bad. I'm a junior right now and my frat does stuff to give back to the community sometimes. Also we always have each others backs. It's a community like this is supposed to be.

You guys are all haters!


FUCK YOU!!!!!!@!!!
Oct 10 2015 8:50PM
4 8
profile picture
skierman
Posts: 8305 - Karma: 7,433
AlsoKnownAsFuck fraternities.


FUCK YOU!!!!!!@!!!


Whoa dude, calm down. We understand your hatred for frats but that's just over the line.
Oct 15 2015 10:40PM
8 1
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51514 - Karma: 160,924
skiermanWhoa dude, calm down. We understand your hatred for frats but that's just over the line.


You're such a piece of shit! You don't know the first thing about greek life. I bet all you know bet all you know is what you seen on tv and heard online and stuff. You probably don't even have any friends in farts and probably didn't even go to college.

Just because somebody chooses to join a frat doesn't mean there lame. Frats get a bad rap but its not like all of them is doing the shit you see in the news. It's a lame few that ruin it for the many.

To people in the thread. I encourange you if your going to college to look into maybe pledging a frat. It's a great time. You wont be dissapointed.
Oct 15 2015 11:38PM
3 6
profile picture
coldcuts69
Posts: 3718 - Karma: 1,887
Frats are poison. Frats are bad.


End of story.
Oct 16 2015 12:35AM
3 0
profile picture
S.J.W
Posts: 7609 - Karma: 31,183
AlsoKnownAsI don't even have any friends


Is this why you joined a frat?
Oct 16 2015 8:49AM
8 1
profile picture
ANDR01D
Posts: 1181 - Karma: 3,319
Only issue I have with fraternities is some of the group violence I've seen. My buddy and I had to break up a fight next door to us a couple of years ago because a 16 year old got into the party, got drunk, and decided to steal one of the house paddles. Well, they chased him into the yard, tackled him, and just started stomping him. One of the kids grabs the paddle and goes to crack it over the back of his head when my buddy grabs him and talks them all down while I check out the kid. He is obviously concussed (at the very least), so we find a couple of his friends and have them take him to the ER.

All of this was because a 16 year old stole a shitty wood paddle with some letters hot-glued on it.

Obviously, this isn't the norm, but it wasn't the only one I saw during my undergrad years, and I'm sure a few of you have heard at least one horror like this.
Oct 16 2015 10:11AM
6 0
profile picture
ianrich511
Posts: 511 - Karma: 723
AlsoKnownAsFuck you guys! You don't know the first thing about fraternities. You're all just going off of bullshit you've heard and your shitty opinions about how they're all bad. I'm a junior right now and my frat does stuff to give back to the community sometimes. Also we always have each others backs. It's a community like this is supposed to be.

You guys are all haters!


FUCK YOU!!!!!!@!!!


AlsoKnownAsYou're such a piece of shit! You don't know the first thing about greek life. I bet all you know bet all you know is what you seen on tv and heard online and stuff. You probably don't even have any friends in farts and probably didn't even go to college.

Just because somebody chooses to join a frat doesn't mean there lame. Frats get a bad rap but its not like all of them is doing the shit you see in the news. It's a lame few that ruin it for the many.

To people in the thread. I encourange you if your going to college to look into maybe pledging a frat. It's a great time. You wont be dissapointed.


This is what it looks like when you have had to suck all your frat boys dicks, and cant live with yourself. Denial, is not just a river in Egypt.
Oct 16 2015 11:15AM
4 0
profile picture
snowpocalypse
Posts: 1036 - Karma: 3,525
AlsoKnownAsYou probably don't even have any friends in farts and probably didn't even go to college.


I have plenty of friends that were into FARTS. Hell I'm 35 and still think they are funny.
PS I went to college and didn't pay for friends. Well at least the male kind.
Oct 16 2015 11:33AM
6 0
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51514 - Karma: 160,924
S.J.WIs this why you joined a frat?


Yeah laugh it up mister cool guy on the internet.
ianrich511This is what it looks like when you have had to suck all your frat boys dicks, and cant live with yourself. Denial, is not just a river in Egypt.


I bet you wouldn't say that to my face. I've had a gym membership since I was 16. I could crush you.

SVmikeI have plenty of friends that were into FARTS. Hell I'm 35 and still think they are funny.
PS I went to college and didn't pay for friends. Well at least the male kind.


Pay for friends? What the fuck are you even talking about?

You guys are probably all just angry because you got turned away from a frat party or one of the brothers fucked you're girl or something.

You guys are pathetic losers.

I'm going to use some of the money from my energy drink business to open a gym. I'll be running a gym doing what I love while you're still flipping burgers or living in your moms basement.

Sorry you guys aren't cool enough to join a frat.

I'd still offer you a beer just because that's how we are onlike you haters.

No time for haters

To the moon
Oct 16 2015 9:46PM
1 7
profile picture
S.J.W
Posts: 7609 - Karma: 31,183
AlsoKnownAsI bet you wouldn't say that to my face. I've had a gym membership since I was 16. I could crush you.



Pay for friends? What the fuck are you even talking about?

You guys are probably all just angry because you got turned away from a frat party or one of the brothers fucked you're girl or something.

You guys are pathetic losers.

I'm going to use some of the money from my energy drink business to open a gym. I'll be running a gym doing what I love while you're still flipping burgers or living in your moms basement.

Sorry you guys aren't cool enough to join a frat.

I'd still offer you a beer just because that's how we are onlike you haters.

No time for haters

To the moon


Holy shit you are nailing the frat bro stereotype.
Oct 16 2015 11:39PM
7 3
profile picture
270on420out
Posts: 7506 - Karma: 51,055
S.J.WHoly shit you are nailing the frat bro stereotype.


How can you not recognize the blatant trolling
Oct 17 2015 12:29AM
8 0
profile picture
1337
Posts: 31049 - Karma: 29,195
AlsoKnownAsfucked you're girl or something.

You guys are pathetic losers.


nice one.
Oct 17 2015 12:58AM
6 0
profile picture
JGWI
Posts: 2842 - Karma: 7,812
S.J.WHoly shit you are nailing the frat bro stereotype.


I was thinking the same thing!
Oct 17 2015 1:13AM
3 0
profile picture
AidanCski
Posts: 420 - Karma: 860
That is so fucked. I hate to be "this kid" but the people who spend all their time in college partying, getting fucked up, and doing nothing but socializing, are gonna have a huge reality check when they look back at college and realized they absolutely wasted their parents money. They are also gonna have a tough time getting a job with a 2.1 GPA and a suspension on their resume. While I certainly like to have fun and yes occasionally get fucked up with my friends, I'm a pretty academic kid so for me, doing something this stupid is just really fucked.
Oct 17 2015 10:18AM
3 1
profile picture
S.J.W
Posts: 7609 - Karma: 31,183
THEDIRTYBUBBLEHow can you not recognize the blatant trolling


Hence why I said he was nailing the frat boy stereotype
Oct 17 2015 10:54AM
7 0
profile picture
ianrich511
Posts: 511 - Karma: 723
AlsoKnownAsI bet you wouldn't say that to my face. I've had a gym membership since I was 16. I could crush you.



I am literally shaking in my boots.
Oct 19 2015 8:33AM
3 0
profile picture
TBK_ski.co
Posts: 103 - Karma: 564
People need to learn the difference between hazing and fun.
Oct 19 2015 12:18PM
2 1
profile picture
maxwags9
Posts: 25 - Karma: 48
AlsoKnownAsI bet you wouldn't say that to my face. I've had a gym membership since I was 16. I could crush you.


There is no proof to back a statement like this up douchebag, get a life and don't shit on people that actually would be successful later on.

You really are making yourself look like a scumbag. Hope you thought my input helps.
Oct 19 2015 12:36PM
3 1
profile picture
maxwags9
Posts: 25 - Karma: 48
I may as well be able to beat the shit out of you if I want, you cannot compare your strength to someone behind a computer.
Oct 19 2015 12:37PM
3 1
profile picture
ianrich511
Posts: 511 - Karma: 723
TBK_ski.coPeople need to learn the difference between hazing and fun.


I hear TBK is actually a gay fraternity. The only way in is to blow their dads.
Oct 19 2015 1:21PM
7 0
profile picture
Stadtski
Posts: 972 - Karma: 3,349
BrothsTopazI was never a fan of Greek life. I don't own salmon chubbies


Neither am I. I only own the Nantucket Red chubbies.
Oct 19 2015 2:11PM
3 0
profile picture
S.J.W
Posts: 7609 - Karma: 31,183
The referenced post has been removed.


Really had to create an alias to defend greek life? Shows how proud you are to be in a frat to not even use your real account
Oct 19 2015 3:47PM
4 0
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51514 - Karma: 160,924
ianrich511I am literally shaking in my boots.


Yeah probably your 2012 boots. I'll be shredding in brand new boots for the rest of my life thanks to the sick job options I'm going to get through my frat, and alumni from it.

Have fun slaving away for the man at some mediocre job. At least I'll have a sick job and good friends for life.

maxwags9There is no proof to back a statement like this up douchebag, get a life and don't shit on people that actually would be successful later on.

You really are making yourself look like a scumbag. Hope you thought my input helps.


You're probably not even out of high school. What do you even know about frat life? Nothing.

PS: FUCK YOU!

K bye
Oct 19 2015 8:06PM
0 4
profile picture
WVskiing
Posts: 3007 - Karma: 1,949
I have heard at my school, WVU, that the make kids eat out strippers haha
Oct 19 2015 8:07PM
2 1
profile picture
maxwags9
Posts: 25 - Karma: 48
AlsoKnownAsYeah probably your 2012 boots. I'll be shredding in brand new boots for the rest of my life thanks to the sick job options I'm going to get through my frat, and alumni from it.

Have fun slaving away for the man at some mediocre job. At least I'll have a sick job and good friends for life.



You're probably not even out of high school. What do you even know about frat life? Nothing.

PS: FUCK YOU!

K bye


Why would you make a assumption like that? I might as well be 35 years old, you cannot make a ignorant assumption based on someone's online profile. You are just digging your self deeper and deeper.
Oct 19 2015 8:08PM
4 1
profile picture
theabortionator
Posts: 51514 - Karma: 160,924
maxwags9Why would you make a assumption like that? I might as well be 35 years old, you cannot make a ignorant assumption based on someone's online profile. You are just digging your self deeper and deeper.


You've got like 5 posts. I bet you couldn't even shotgun a beer without puking.
Oct 19 2015 8:22PM
3 2
profile picture
maxwags9
Posts: 25 - Karma: 48
AlsoKnownAsYou've got like 5 posts. I bet you couldn't even shotgun a beer without puking.


Thats pretty lame if you think you should be proud of that in the real world. I'm not saying that i can or cannot shotgun a beer. But your just making yourself seem like a fucking tool. If you think that you are better for being able to party hard every weekend, while having laid 35 chicks within the same night, your really someone that people should be proud of, No, your full of shit. With your logic and grammar, your probably going to live your life feeling like an absolute dipshit, and have to survive with minimum wage at the convenience store. You pretty much make yourself look like that by the way you speak to me.
Oct 19 2015 8:30PM
2 0
profile picture
ianrich511
Posts: 511 - Karma: 723
AlsoKnownAsYeah probably your 2012 boots. I'll be shredding in brand new boots for the rest of my life thanks to the sick job options I'm going to get through my frat, and alumni from it.


This is truly some of your best trolling I have ever seen.
Oct 19 2015 10:43PM
1 0
profile picture
HamFaceGirl
Posts: 5242 - Karma: 2,676
Nothing wrong with a bit of hazing. If you don't want it don't sign up for it
Oct 19 2015 11:01PM
0 0
profile picture
ATLskier
Posts: 8203 - Karma: 406
wow, some serious shit in this thread....

As for greek life, it can be fun, educational, and helpful depending on your circumstances.

Being at a school that was 35% greek, social lives were pretty much only possible through greek life (that is unless LAN parties and video games and shit are considered part of a social life). Not all fraternities are the same. They vary by fraternity to fraternity, chapter to chapter and school to school. ATO at Georgia Tech is going to be very different from ATO at Michigan.

Being in a fraternity is not paying for friends. Look at what dues pay for. Most of it is fun social trips, others are for house maintenance, parties, philantrophy, school related functions(homecoming, greek week), etc. If that is paying for friends, then you are paying for friends when you spend money to go on trips with them, eat out with them, etc.
Oct 20 2015 12:59AM
1 0
All times are Eastern (-5)