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some info on next years skis

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Dallan!
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Nothings shure yet i guess but heres some shit about some ski companys.

ok. Dynastar:
the pro models belan, dion, and larose where still there couldnt notice any change in the graphics.
The trouble makers getting new graphics and they have some text on the tail that says like 'not just some trouble'. And theres coming a fatter trouble maker with the name Big trouble, with a 92 mm waist. Theyre legend skis are still in the program couldnt see any difference beetween them from this years.

Rossignol:
are coming with a fatter BC 98 mm waist, and the FS will have a 85 or something like that and both of them are stiffer. And the graphics on them have a crime seen theme.
The Bandit series have a green graphic and will come with a fatter b2 thinner b3 (78 and 83 or something) and it will be a B4 if i can remember right with a 93 or 94 waist, something around 90 anyways. And there will also be a bandit squad with a waist width over 100.

Salomon: will have 3 twins next year, thruster, foil and gun. Foil with 85 waist, thruster 78 or something and gun the same dimensions as the pocket-rocket.

Atomic: coming with a new fat twin with a 98 mm waist with the name pimp. And a twintip ski that have the same dimensions as the tweak but when you buy one you get 3 pair of skis (sounds fucked but maybe i got it wrong) in 3 different colours.

HEAD: same as last year no new models. new graphics (some asian theme) didnt see the dimensions but i guess they are the same as last years.









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Dallan!
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and the scott p3 will be a whole new ski next year to.








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Jan 11 2005 2:14PM
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do you have any info on the new K2's?

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Jan 11 2005 2:16PM
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Dallan!
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no i watched them to fast the only thing i saw was that the graphics where different, had to see all the other shit cuz the store i work in doesnt rep them (shame), but hopefully we will do next year.








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Jan 11 2005 2:18PM
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rodadeaco
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what I've heard about the K2 Seth Vicious, 3 mm wider (98mm), new progressive sidecut (similar to snowboards) and a zipper inlaid in the topsheet on the tail ?
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Jan 11 2005 2:23PM
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skifiend
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Progressive sidecut??? I guess this one is new to me. Can you explain this?

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Jan 11 2005 2:26PM
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Mike-O
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So, you didn't quite catch what the Atomic deal was all about? So it's one pair of skis, three colors?
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Dallan!
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^yeah the rep told me so, but i can hardly belive it cuz theye should be pretty cheap to. pretty weird in my opinion.








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Jan 11 2005 2:32PM
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skifiend
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whats this progressive sidecut thing?

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Jan 11 2005 2:39PM
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justinm
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my guess is not three PAIRS of ski, but three skis, like you get one free ski if ever one breaks or to rotate. maybe thats what you meant but you said 3 Pairs, its probably just 3 skis





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Jan 11 2005 2:46PM
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Dallan!
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no i didnt.








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Jan 11 2005 2:55PM
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rodadeaco
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I don't really know what progressive sidecut is but I think it is sort of a variable curve in the sidecut. Where the sidecut of most skis is a constant curve, progressive sidecut changes along the length of the ski. I could be totally wrong though.
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Jan 11 2005 2:55PM
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skifiend
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The guy who started the thread said 'progressive sidecut, like on snowboards'. What you said makes sense, just not sure why you would want that?

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Jan 11 2005 3:00PM
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skifiend
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My bad rodadeaco...you were the one who said something about the sidecut. I'll be interested to find out more when everything is released at the SIA


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Jan 11 2005 3:01PM
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rodadeaco
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I think the idea is to make a fat powder ski that kicks ass on the groomers and in the park. The progressive sidecut helps it do that.
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Jan 11 2005 3:04PM
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Dallan!
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isnt it that the sidecut are the same in everyway you are skiing?








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Jan 11 2005 3:06PM
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Aasert
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the mad_trix arent the same, they are a whole new ski
Jan 11 2005 3:16PM
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MrPantyDropper
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i thought the guns were 108 or something?
Jan 11 2005 3:23PM
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rodadeaco
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The following was taken from a snowboarding site, but the principals are the same:

Sidecut: As noted above when discussing freestyle boards, sidecut greatly determines the type of turn that a board 'wants' to do. The deeper the sidecut, the more aggressively the board wants to turn. Some boards have symmetrical sidecuts while others have progressive sidecuts. This effects the feel of the board through a turn. Progressive sidecut boards tend to flare out at the tail and are designed to 'kick' the rider out of a turn, while symmetrical boards are smoother when riding 'fakie' or 'switch' (backwards).
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Jan 11 2005 3:27PM
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Dallan!, Do you have more info on the Scott lineup?
Jan 11 2005 3:37PM
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Dallan!
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the only skis they demod where the aztec and the santiago mission and the p3.
But the mission where the same as this year exept for the graphics same with the aztec, maybe some smaller flex changes, it felt like the santiago and the aztec where softer, but the rep told me they where stiffer so i dont really know.








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Jan 11 2005 3:40PM
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I know the seth pistols have a mushroom print, put them next to eachother, then a giant mushroom emerges or something. the maiden's remained pretty much the same, the rest i dont know.
Jan 11 2005 3:42PM
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OReJow
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saw the new troublemakers today... the new graphics are a ghost type thing on the topsheet (like the mask from the scream movies) they are red and white... didn't really care for them. i took pics on my phone but the quality is pretty shitty.
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ski8990
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arent there a whole bunch of trouble skis like troubled youth and sweet trouble and some others?



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are the guns and big guns different?
Jan 11 2005 4:43PM
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yeah^ their newschool lineup is all trouble..i think there are 4 models..
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LittleDevil720
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pretty sick salomons tottaly redoing there twins



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Jan 11 2005 5:06PM
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yeah, progressive sidecut is where you have a sidecut with multipule radius's. lets say your ski has a 20 meter turn raidus. that means that the bend in the edge is equivelant to a a small chunk of a 40 meter circle. a progressive sidecut, would be formed by laying, lets saya 40, and 30 meter circles on top of each other. in the center, you would have the longer sidecut of the 40 m circle, but as it drifts toward the tips, it transfers to a tighter radius curve. like stated, this setup would cause the ski to quickly bite and dive into turns faster than a normal ski. and just to let you know, they are not snowboard specific, and they have been around for a long time. infact, all line skis have a multi radius sidecut, as do most skis.



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Jan 11 2005 5:17PM
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progressive sidecuts are not new, but they have been advertised and used on snowboards for a long time, but they're not heard of as much on skis
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Jan 11 2005 5:36PM
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Dallan!
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didnt see or feel any differense beetween the pocket-rocket and the gun or 1080 and the thruster.
But maybe the skis wherent finished yet so they just remade the grafics for the fair.








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3 skis ? pimp sept theyre so stiff

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Dallan!
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yup 3 pair of skis for the price of 6300 swedish.
thats about 900 us








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Dallan!
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but dont mark my word that it is pairs thought.








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Jan 11 2005 5:49PM
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CTD
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please tell me thats not true. that would be the worst idea ever, for so mmany reasons.



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it doesnt matter about the big name companies
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Jan 11 2005 6:37PM
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Skipig25
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It's not 3 pairs. It's 3 skis. They're supposed to be called Atomic Triplets. The point is that if one ski breaks or something you have another one. There could be a bindings problem though.
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Salomon Gun. Worst ski name to date? Go!
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sherLocke
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id day thruster and foil are pretty bad names too. who comes up with salomons ski names? they blow hard.





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Jan 11 2005 7:12PM
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ski8990
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that triplet idea is retarded



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yeah i heard 179 seth vicious has some mushroom cloud on it. new juvys are dope tooo
Jan 11 2005 7:31PM
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t-man152
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^ It sure is. paying extra for a ski that you might never have to use is bullshit.
Jan 11 2005 7:32PM
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^^^^ to the brother who said bad ski names, thank you. Agreed with salomon but Atomic? come on! the pimp? are they serious, anyone who finds pimps and hoes funny is either still learning about the new changes going on with their body or has a learning disability.




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Jan 11 2005 8:59PM
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KAF
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The Seth Vicious has George W Bush on it as well. In his flight suit. Funny as hell.
Jan 11 2005 9:00PM
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seem's like that progressive sidecut would be hell to ride switch...why would they wanna put that on a twin?
Jan 11 2005 10:14PM
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You are wrong about the progressive. Having a shallower sidecut along with a deeper central sidecut, allows a ski to retain it's girth as a fat ski, while still allowing it to carve shit up when neccesary on variable terrain. You can do progressive sidecuts a number of different ways. We incorporated it in a way that will compromise none of the ski's perfromance, going switch or regular. C'mon, guys, it is called product testing. You don't have Seth Morrison ski on something just to make it be crap in the end. He is stoked on this technology and really wanted it incorporated into his new pro model. Seth thought the old Pistol design wanted to hook into a turn a bit more than he desired when he was sraightlining the goods at 60 mph:) You will all see in two weeks, no more secrets for you!
Jan 12 2005 11:50AM
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daniel_insam
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by Volkl there are 1 or 2 new models
and new graphics for the karmas gotamas sanouk and exressions
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Jan 12 2005 11:59AM
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these are the ics of the new Volkls:






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Jan 12 2005 12:16PM
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rodadeaco
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there, schmies to set everyone straight about progressive sidecut. And those Volkl Sumo's are awesome
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Jan 12 2005 12:29PM
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those volkls look awesome... the sumo!? radical.















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i doont no why,. but i love the scratch sidewall design

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^^^^125 waist on the sumo?? Huge. Anyone know if Fischer are bringing out a new twin next year??? I think i read that somewhere.

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