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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/781792/9-11--Decade-of-Deception--Full-Film-NEW-2015-

NIST did not follow standard fire investigation protocol:

Erik Lawyer – Firefighter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsbbpUA9FHM&feature=youtu.be

Mr. Lawyer presents investigative directives from the National Fire Protection Standards Manual that were never followed by NIST or FEMA for the fires they claim caused all 3 WTC Buildings to collapse.

The Truth:

Danny Jowenko - Demolition Expert: https://youtu.be/0f4w8iJmn08

Mr. Jowenko concludes that WTC 7 had to have been a controlled demolition without a doubt. (RIP)

9/11 Survivor Barry Jennings Uncut Interviews (WABC-TV, 2001, LC 2007): https://youtu.be/OmeY2vJ6ZoA

Barry talks about the explosions in Building 7 and his escape from it after tying to enter the office of emergency management area on the 23rd floor. (RIP)

A man representing 2,350+ professionals appeared on C-SPAN to discuss the demolition evidence of 9/11 -- it is now the most popular video on the site since then, and #6 all-time: http://www.c-span.org/video/?320748-5/washington-journal-architects-engineers-911-truth — 400,000 views

Some of the members:

Steven Dusterwald, S.E. - Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/I7oti6KGEf4

Mr. Dusterwald presents contradictory evidence between the NIST model and the actual sequence of failures within all the WTC Buildings.

David Topete, MSCE, S.E. - Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/v9WB1A9j8f8

Mr. Topete discusses how WTC Building 7's column 79's failure could not have caused the symmetrical and simultaneous collapse into it's own footprint.

Casey Pfeiffer, S.E. – Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/V4y6cweaegI

Mr. Pfeiffer provides a in-depth look at what actually happened to the top portions of the WTC towers prior to collapse and how WTC 7 could not have experienced simultaneous connector failure without the use of controlled demolition devices.

Kamal Obeid, C.E., S.E. – Civil/Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/3WCcSHpvAJ8

Mr. Obeid, a 30-year structural engineer explains how NIST's analysis actually disproves it's own theories on how WTC Building 7 collapsed, thereby confirming the use of controlled demolition.

Ron Brookman S.E. - Structural Engineer: https://youtu.be/TM_l_4sJ-sY

Mr. Brookman discusses his direct inquiries with President Obama and NIST on NIST's responsibility to find the cause of the collapse of WTC Building 7 and their responses.

They have been attempting to expose the fraud in the NIST reports, along with thousands of other professionals. Here are a few:

Bob Bowman PhD, Lt. Colonel (ret.):
https://youtu.be/CROB5p-1GjE

The former head of the Star Wars program under President Ford & Carter, has multiple engineering degrees and agrees that NIST is conducting a massive coverup. (RIP)

Lynn Margulis PhD:
https://youtu.be/O0fkDmi78Og

1999 Presidential Medal of Science award winner and Carl Sagan's first wife, Lynn Margulis, provides crucial rules and elements within an investigative scientific analysis to procure an accepted hypotheses vs. what's depicted in the NIST report. (RIP)

Rudy Dent, 9/11 survivor and former Fire Marshall:
https://youtu.be/nQrpLp-X0ws

32 year veteran of NYC fire department and the NYPD Rudy Dent, speaks about his incredible first hand experience of the lies surrounding WTC 7 and gives his professional opinion on the destruction of the buildings with his experience as a Fire Marshall.

Another prominent member from this group is:

Richard Humenn P.E. - WTC Chief Electrical Design Engineer: https://youtu.be/gJy7lhVK2xE

Mr. Humenn gives us quite a unique perspective inside the elevator shafts in the twin towers and how access to the core columns could have been gained.

Click here for their series of twenty-five provable points which clearly demonstrate that the reports produced by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on the destruction of the World Trade Center (WTC) were unscientific and fraudulent. Therefore NIST itself--including its lead authors, Shyam Sunder and John Gross--should be investigated.

Building 7 collapsed at 5:21 pm on 9-11-2001 - it was the first and only steel-framed skyscraper (fireproofed!) in world history to completely collapse because of fire.

The Smoking Gun: Free fall occurred in Building 7's collapse for 2.25 seconds. NIST was attempting to cover this up, but a physics teacher called them out at the public draft hearing. Surprisingly, in its final report released in November 2008, NIST finally acknowledged free fall, but dishonestly placed it in bizarre framework that continues to deny its clear significance.

This video series was created by the man who forced NIST to admit free fall occurred and displays the brazenness of the NIST WTC7 coverup.

Part 1: http://youtu.be/Rkp-4sm5Ypc
Part 2: http://youtu.be/iXTlaqXsm4k
Part 3: http://youtu.be/v3mudruFzNw

More info: http://rememberbuilding7.org/free-fall-collapse/
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Sep 11 2015 2:41AM
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eheath
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Please take your conspiracy theories somewhere else.
Sep 11 2015 2:42AM
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qazwsxedc34
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eheathPlease take your conspiracy theories somewhere else.


These are inquiries based on sound evidence. The term 'Conspiracy theory’ introduced under operation Mockingbird was and is a way of trying to discredit inquiry. It is perfectly legitimate to say, “here is a very serious and terrible event that occurred which killed thousands of people; it’s killing firefighters still to this day! It was used to justify war, its killed thousands of American soldiers, its killed millions of Iraqi and afghan people and to consider that investigating the roots of that is somehow not legitimate?

This thread is non-skigabber and on 9/11 I think it is only appropriate to share inquiry based on sound evidence. If you do not agree with it than state your contention.
Sep 11 2015 3:13AM
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eheath
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CONAIR_BUSCEMIThese are inquiries based on sound evidence. The term 'Conspiracy theory’ introduced under operation Mockingbird was and is a way of trying to discredit inquiry. It is perfectly legitimate to say, “here is a very serious and terrible event that occurred which killed thousands of people; it’s killing firefighters still to this day! It was used to justify war, its killed thousands of American soldiers, its killed millions of Iraqi and afghan people and to consider that investigating the roots of that is somehow not legitimate?

This thread is non-skigabber and on 9/11 I think it is only appropriate to share inquiry based on sound evidence. If you do not agree with it than state your contention.


I'm not gonna delete this, even though I'd like to, but if you want to have a discussion that's fine, but no one gives a shit about what you're saying. You post threads like this weekly, some ridiculous unknown issue is upon the USA and you seem to think you need to tell everyone. Sure this is an online forum but there are plenty of other places for you to push your opinion on other people. If people actually wanted to discuss the things you post about, they would. Threads like this have been present on NS since day 1 and still to this day, most people don't give a shit about people like you saying things like this "conspiracy" theories. Your threads die and sink into the pit of NSG and no one ever sees them again, no one cares.

Just like everyone else who has ever posted on NS about conspiracy theories has always done it for the same reason, attention, which is exactly how conspiracies start. Cool we get it, you're progressive and think for yourself, thank you. Now please do us all a favor and stop posting bullshit conspiracy/political news, we've all done a google search on something intriguing.
Sep 11 2015 3:33AM
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THEHARLEMSHAKE
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eheathPlease take your conspiracy theories somewhere else.


What's the conspiracy? Our government is trying to tell us that 11 radical Islamics armed with box cutters can overthrow the United States multi billion dollar air defense, and drive airplanes into buildings all while taking orders from a bearded guy in a cave somewhere in Afganistan
Sep 11 2015 7:49AM
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theBearJew
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Fuck off with this shit. Seriously, not today man. I'm sure there are people on here who lost family members and friends, they click into the thread and hope it is a memorial type thread and see a piece of shit like you trying to make a mockery of this day. Go fuck yourself, seriously, try to go fuck yourself.
Sep 11 2015 7:53AM
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Titus69
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Jet fuel can't melt steel beams
Sep 11 2015 8:00AM
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soup
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Titus69Jet fuel can't melt steel beams


end thread,






side note: 14 years holy shit im getting old.
Sep 11 2015 8:08AM
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.Hugo.
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You should probably get that screw tightened
Sep 11 2015 8:22AM
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Lonely
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eheathI'm not gonna delete this, even though I'd like to, but if you want to have a discussion that's fine, but no one gives a shit about what you're saying. You post threads like this weekly, some ridiculous unknown issue is upon the USA and you seem to think you need to tell everyone. Sure this is an online forum but there are plenty of other places for you to push your opinion on other people. If people actually wanted to discuss the things you post about, they would. Threads like this have been present on NS since day 1 and still to this day, most people don't give a shit about people like you saying things like this "conspiracy" theories. Your threads die and sink into the pit of NSG and no one ever sees them again, no one cares.

Just like everyone else who has ever posted on NS about conspiracy theories has always done it for the same reason, attention, which is exactly how conspiracies start. Cool we get it, you're progressive and think for yourself, thank you. Now please do us all a favor and stop posting bullshit conspiracy/political news, we've all done a google search on something intriguing.


You really seem to care a lot

theBearJewFuck off with this shit. Seriously, not today man. I'm sure there are people on here who lost family members and friends, they click into the thread and hope it is a memorial type thread and see a piece of shit like you trying to make a mockery of this day. Go fuck yourself, seriously, try to go fuck yourself.


But this though, regardless if it was false flag a lot of people did die. Not the day to discuss this.
Sep 11 2015 9:27AM
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THEHARLEMSHAKE
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THERMITE PUMPKIN SEEDS
Sep 11 2015 9:32AM
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Bogs
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Fuck you, op. Fuck you.
Sep 11 2015 9:54AM
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qazwsxedc34
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eheathI'm not gonna delete this, even though I'd like to, but if you want to have a discussion that's fine, but no one gives a shit about what you're saying. You post threads like this weekly, some ridiculous unknown issue is upon the USA and you seem to think you need to tell everyone. Sure this is an online forum but there are plenty of other places for you to push your opinion on other people. If people actually wanted to discuss the things you post about, they would. Threads like this have been present on NS since day 1 and still to this day, most people don't give a shit about people like you saying things like this "conspiracy" theories. Your threads die and sink into the pit of NSG and no one ever sees them again, no one cares.

Just like everyone else who has ever posted on NS about conspiracy theories has always done it for the same reason, attention, which is exactly how conspiracies start. Cool we get it, you're progressive and think for yourself, thank you. Now please do us all a favor and stop posting bullshit conspiracy/political news, we've all done a google search on something intriguing.


Millions of people give a shit about what I’m saying, including hundreds of family members who lost their loved ones that day. People respectfully discuss their opinions on the threads I post.

Again this isn’t a conspiracy theory this is an inquiry based on experts in individual felids presenting evidence in front of a panel.

"Threads like this have been present on NS since day 1 and still to this day, most people don't give a shit about people like you saying things like this "conspiracy" theories.” Yes, and they should be, whether you choose to believe them or not. Also, you’re appealing to popular belief.

It is important for people to know the truth, if you don’t like it than don’t post. Again, this isn’t some conspiracy theory. Its experts who are grotesquely disgusted with the botched science that NIST has so fraudulently conducted. It’s important for those who lost loved ones that day to know the truth and hundreds of them want to.
Sep 11 2015 12:52PM
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eheath
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CONAIR_BUSCEMIMillions of people give a shit about what I’m saying, including hundreds of family members who lost their loved ones that day. People respectfully discuss their opinions on the threads I post.

Again this isn’t a conspiracy theory this is an inquiry based on experts in individual felids presenting evidence in front of a panel.

"Threads like this have been present on NS since day 1 and still to this day, most people don't give a shit about people like you saying things like this "conspiracy" theories.” Yes, and they should be, whether you choose to believe them or not. Also, you’re appealing to popular belief.

It is important for people to know the truth, if you don’t like it than don’t post. Again, this isn’t some conspiracy theory. Its experts who are grotesquely disgusted with the botched science that NIST has so fraudulently conducted. It’s important for those who lost loved ones that day to know the truth and hundreds of them want to.


You're getting a really good response so far in this thread...
Sep 11 2015 12:54PM
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qazwsxedc34
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theBearJewFuck off with this shit. Seriously, not today man. I'm sure there are people on here who lost family members and friends, they click into the thread and hope it is a memorial type thread and see a piece of shit like you trying to make a mockery of this day. Go fuck yourself, seriously, try to go fuck yourself.


What an emotionally discharged answer. Thanks, for the ad hominem attacks, appreciate it.

This post is a memorial type thread, its important being a responsible citizen to ask questions about your government and to not take what they say without any kind of critical thought.

There are so many anomalies, so many things that are dead wrong that are still being promoted today as a myth to the general public. The devils in the details and once you start to look at them thats one the whole narrative comes apart from the seams.

Do those who lost their loved ones that day and who want a new and independent investigation into 9/11, do those people not have a voice? Do the thousands of structural engineers, architects and demolition experts who want a new investigation into 9/11 are they just mentally impaired?
Sep 11 2015 1:02PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Thanks guys for the ad hominem attacks! Kudos, to you guys.
Sep 11 2015 1:05PM
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eheath
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CONAIR_BUSCEMIThanks guys for the ad hominem attacks! Kudos, to you guys.


I have no desire to argue with you about the content of your thread, my point was that no one gives a shit and so far that's been the case.
Sep 11 2015 1:13PM
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ANDR01D
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Whether or not you actually believe what you posted, OP, the fact that you are unable to use any remote amount of restraint or even consider how this could negatively affect others, makes you the biggest piece of shit I've seen on this site.
Sep 11 2015 1:40PM
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qazwsxedc34
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ANDR01DWhether or not you actually believe what you posted, OP, the fact that you are unable to use any remote amount of restraint or even consider how this could negatively affect others, makes you the biggest piece of shit I've seen on this site.


It can emotionally impact others in a very negative way. I understand that.

I never intended for it to induce hate or frustration. I’ve never cussed or personally attacked anyone. Nevertheless, I think it is important to investigate and to voice my opinion and the millions of others who have this same opinion. I’m against fraudulent science, lying about something so tragic as 9/11 is disgusting.
Sep 11 2015 1:48PM
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Titus69
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CONAIR_BUSCEMIIt can emotionally impact others in a very negative way. I understand that.

I never intended for it to induce hate or frustration. I’ve never cussed or personally attacked anyone. Nevertheless, I think it is important to investigate and to voice my opinion and the millions of others who have this same opinion. I’m against fraudulent science, lying about something so tragic as 9/11 is disgusting.


I completely agree with you and the whole inside job things our govt does but stop dude you're getting to much hate and this thread is a shit show
Sep 11 2015 1:55PM
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Titus69
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CONAIR_BUSCEMIIt can emotionally impact others in a very negative way. I understand that.

I never intended for it to induce hate or frustration. I’ve never cussed or personally attacked anyone. Nevertheless, I think it is important to investigate and to voice my opinion and the millions of others who have this same opinion. I’m against fraudulent science, lying about something so tragic as 9/11 is disgusting.


I completely agree with you and the whole inside job things our govt does but stop dude you're getting to much hate and this thread is a shit show
Sep 11 2015 1:55PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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There is a better day and time for this.
Sep 11 2015 1:56PM
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Funkadelic
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Dude whether or not further inquiry is required for the events of 9/11 is irrelevant for this day. We should be remembering those whose lives were lost and thanking the heroes that risked their lives to help others.

If I made a thread saying "hey everyone, 14 years ago some terrorists with box knives hijacked planes and killed tons of people. Discuss. Oh yea BTW never forget. " that would be fucked up. That's what youre doing here under the guise of "legitimate inquiry." Whether or not what you're saying is important to question is irrelevant. Today is not the day to discuss it.

That's why everyone's heated in this thread.
Sep 11 2015 1:56PM
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Titus69
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FunkadelicDude whether or not further inquiry is required for the events of 9/11 is irrelevant for this day. We should be remembering those whose lives were lost and thanking the heroes that risked their lives to help others.

If I made a thread saying "hey everyone, 14 years ago some terrorists with box knives hijacked planes and killed tons of people. Discuss. Oh yea BTW never forget. " that would be fucked up. That's what youre doing here under the guise of "legitimate inquiry." Whether or not what you're saying is important to question is irrelevant. Today is not the day to discuss it.

That's why everyone's heated in this thread.



Exactly even though I don't believe the story everyone believes in the world I don't feel today is the day to question the truth, today's the day to remember or honor the people who lost their lives or put out the flames of the event
Sep 11 2015 2:02PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Titus69Exactly even though I don't believe the story everyone believes in the world I don't feel today is the day to question the truth, today's the day to remember or honor the people who lost their lives or put out the flames of the event


This is a day to remember but it is also a day for people to hear the hundreds of victims families that lost their loved ones that day. They have a voice and they want it to be heard. They want to know the truth!
Sep 11 2015 2:14PM
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Titus69
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CONAIR_BUSCEMIThis is a day to remember but it is also a day for people to hear the hundreds of victims families that lost their loved ones that day. They have a voice and they want it to be heard. They want to know the truth!


Then if they feel that way, let them confront the people to question. Even the people like us want the truth but I'm not protesting over it or writing paragraphs on why we need the truth. The government isn't gonna go on TV and say "yeah sorry but we were behind this and were the reason your father died."
Sep 11 2015 2:17PM
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Lonely
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FunkadelicDude whether or not further inquiry is required for the events of 9/11 is irrelevant for this day. We should be remembering those whose lives were lost and thanking the heroes that risked their lives to help others.

If I made a thread saying "hey everyone, 14 years ago some terrorists with box knives hijacked planes and killed tons of people. Discuss. Oh yea BTW never forget. " that would be fucked up. That's what youre doing here under the guise of "legitimate inquiry." Whether or not what you're saying is important to question is irrelevant. Today is not the day to discuss it.

That's why everyone's heated in this thread.


Titus69Exactly even though I don't believe the story everyone believes in the world I don't feel today is the day to question the truth, today's the day to remember or honor the people who lost their lives or put out the flames of the event


I think its crazy how our government treated this and the cover ups that happened (as much as eheath and others would like to deny). The fact is after that much death and destruction and weird things that happened there should be an investigation. It's in no way disrespectful to the families of those who dies or the victims. This is about figuring out why and who caused all this pain and suffering. People deserve closure.

But is a day like today really the day to talk about it? Absolutely not.
Sep 11 2015 2:24PM
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qazwsxedc34
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FunkadelicDude whether or not further inquiry is required for the events of 9/11 is irrelevant for this day. We should be remembering those whose lives were lost and thanking the heroes that risked their lives to help others.

If I made a thread saying "hey everyone, 14 years ago some terrorists with box knives hijacked planes and killed tons of people. Discuss. Oh yea BTW never forget. " that would be fucked up. That's what youre doing here under the guise of "legitimate inquiry." Whether or not what you're saying is important to question is irrelevant. Today is not the day to discuss it.

That's why everyone's heated in this thread.


I agree, we should remember those that lost their lives that tragic day. And I do not think that’s a similar comparison, family members that lost their loved ones want you to remember but they also want you to hear their voices and listen. This documentary was released on 9/11 with the backing of hundreds of families who lost loved ones that day because most people, like you and I would be remembering the victims of 9/11.

We should remember, but we should also listen. Hundreds of family members who have lost their loved ones want the truth, they no longer want lies.
Sep 11 2015 2:26PM
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qazwsxedc34
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One final note. Personally, I do not think this thread is insensitive, I think if it were me or a loved one that died that day I'd want the truth to be told and the right people punished. I believe that's why so many families are unhappy with the NIST report and are pushing for the truth. Not only are we remembering the victims but we are fighting for the truth and giving family members closure of which they have been fighting for for 14 years.
Sep 11 2015 2:36PM
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I don't get it. A few months back when it was the 70th anniversary of dropping the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima, pretty much the whole thread was like fuck yeah we're the best we ended the war, and no sympathy was shown for Japan. But in this thread where OP does ask a pretty legit question "was 9,11 an inside job" and everyone freaks out and gets offended.
Sep 11 2015 3:38PM
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SFB
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S.J.WI don't get it. A few months back when it was the 70th anniversary of dropping the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima, pretty much the whole thread was like fuck yeah we're the best we ended the war, and no sympathy was shown for Japan. But in this thread where OP does ask a pretty legit question "was 9,11 an inside job" and everyone freaks out and gets offended.

because the nukes put an end to a brutal militant nation that would not surrender and the deadliest war that would have dragged out resulting in a huge loss of american lives and resources. and 9/11 was the deadliest terror attack on american soil, which was also only 14 years ago, not 70. fuck off kid.
Sep 11 2015 3:43PM
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SFBbecause the nukes put an end to a brutal militant nation that would not surrender and the deadliest war that would have dragged out resulting in a huge loss of american lives and resources. and 9/11 was the deadliest terror attack on american soil, which was also only 14 years ago, not 70. fuck off kid.


Human Life=Human Life. So much hypocrisy. Op is not being insensitive. You butt hurt individuals are sensitive to the fact that America can and does do wrong. The amount of lives lost due to Americans is very large. But that's justified every time of course, right?
Sep 11 2015 4:17PM
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.Hugo.
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kirbstopperHuman Life=Human Life. So much hypocrisy. Op is not being insensitive. You butt hurt individuals are sensitive to the fact that America can and does do wrong. The amount of lives lost due to Americans is very large. But that's justified every time of course, right?


who let al qaeda join ns?
Sep 11 2015 4:19PM
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TOAST.
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Don't title a thread "9/11 14th Anniversary" and not mention anything about the people that lost their lives that day.
Sep 11 2015 4:21PM
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JohnLocke
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S.J.WI don't get it. A few months back when it was the 70th anniversary of dropping the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima, pretty much the whole thread was like fuck yeah we're the best we ended the war, and no sympathy was shown for Japan. But in this thread where OP does ask a pretty legit question "was 9,11 an inside job" and everyone freaks out and gets offended.

Why the hell would 9/11 be an inside job??? You can't possibly think that U.S officials would allow 3,000 people to be killed just for a foreign policy ploy to acquire middle eastern oil? Also, I agree with everyone else who says that this is not the time to be railing on conspiracy theories. It is a time to remember the innocent people affected by this tragedy.
Sep 11 2015 4:30PM
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qazwsxedc34
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ck0belskiWhy the hell would 9/11 be an inside job??? You can't possibly think that U.S officials would allow 3,000 people to be killed just for a foreign policy ploy to acquire middle eastern oil? Also, I agree with everyone else who says that this is not the time to be railing on conspiracy theories. It is a time to remember the innocent people affected by this tragedy.


It’s a time to understand the facts and see through the lies. Victims family members want the truth and so shouldn’t you.

This isn’t about who orchestrated the attack, this is about fraudulent science conducted by NIST, which is still propagated to this day.

It is markedly important to understand the full scope of this tragedy and to remember the victims but it is also vital to understand how and why these three buildings collapsed (one at free fall), so something of this nature will not happen again.
Sep 11 2015 5:01PM
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qazwsxedc34
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TOAST.Don't title a thread "9/11 14th Anniversary" and not mention anything about the people that lost their lives that day.


If you would of watched the video I posted it mentioned and remembers the victims as well as features the family members of the victims.
Sep 11 2015 5:03PM
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SKI.ING
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I'm sick of you dude. The event was unprecedented. It doesn't matter what your expert on so and so says, etc. Nobody can say what was supposed to happen to these two skyscrapers when jetliners crashed into them. It happens in science all the time. One thing is thought impossible, until it happens, then it changes the facts. 9/11 changed the facts, it changed America, it changed the world. You're just bending conventions to suit you're argument.

Either way its inappropriate today. What if I came up to you on the anniversary of your grandparents death or parents death and said how if they hadn't ate so much crap or smoked so much they'd still be alive? Wouldn't feel good right? Just leave it alone. They have sites for cretins like you somewhere else.
Sep 11 2015 5:24PM
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qazwsxedc34
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SKI.INGI'm sick of you dude. The event was unprecedented. It doesn't matter what your expert on so and so says, etc. Nobody can say what was supposed to happen to these two skyscrapers when jetliners crashed into them. It happens in science all the time. One thing is thought impossible, until it happens, then it changes the facts. 9/11 changed the facts, it changed America, it changed the world. You're just bending conventions to suit you're argument.

Either way its inappropriate today. What if I came up to you on the anniversary of your grandparents death or parents death and said how if they hadn't ate so much crap or smoked so much they'd still be alive? Wouldn't feel good right? Just leave it alone. They have sites for cretins like you somewhere else.


Yes, 9/11 was unprecedented and tragic. Pysics tell us what should and shouldn’t of happened to those *three buildings, if collating the official NIST narrative.

I’m not bending conversations, I posted a video with sources, regarding experts in various entering and architectural fields that only ask for a new and independent investigation into 9/11. The reason being many family members who lost their loved ones on 9/11 want an independent and transparent investigation cleared from any collusion.

9/11 was 9/11 and we deserve to know the truth. I and millions of others are tired of being overtly lied to.

"What if I came up to you on the anniversary of your grandparents death or parents death and said how if they hadn't ate so much crap or smoked so much they'd still be alive?” Another out of proportion comparison, and again, thanks for you little ad hominem attack at the end. I never asked for hate and I never intended to encourage any hate, I know you’re a very smart person and I hope you will refrain from acting on your emotions and to think logically. Hundreds of victims family members did and all they want is the truth, they have a voice and so don’t you.

I guess we will agree to disagree, just don’t call me a stupid person again.
Sep 11 2015 5:44PM
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rest in spaghetti never forghetti
Sep 11 2015 7:12PM
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S.J.WI don't get it. A few months back when it was the 70th anniversary of dropping the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima, pretty much the whole thread was like fuck yeah we're the best we ended the war, and no sympathy was shown for Japan. But in this thread where OP does ask a pretty legit question "was 9,11 an inside job" and everyone freaks out and gets offended.



^THIS


We blew up a couple hundred k people in Japan, no big deal. Hilarious joke in a sense.

9/11 WE SHOULD SHOULD PUT OUR SOLEMN MODE CENSOR ON TODAY. Or else it's totally inappropriate. Hell that was the response right from the beginning.

Pretty backward im my opinion. I'm in no way devaluing the people who lost their lives on that day, just the backward logic of the people that are so deeply hurt by this(especially if they don't even know anyone that died) but don't care the least bit, and actually enjoy making light of the attack on japan.

Same with pearl harbor. Pearl harbor, still a thing to think deep sad thoughts about all these years later. Blowing people up in japan or anywhere else with a different culture? Who gives a fuck? They're weird people of a different ethnic background practicing strange customs in a land far far away.


Just saying.
Sep 11 2015 7:21PM
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S.J.WI don't get it. A few months back when it was the 70th anniversary of dropping the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima, pretty much the whole thread was like fuck yeah we're the best we ended the war, and no sympathy was shown for Japan. But in this thread where OP does ask a pretty legit question "was 9,11 an inside job" and everyone freaks out and gets offended.



^THIS


We blew up a couple hundred k people in Japan, no big deal. Hilarious joke in a sense.

9/11 WE SHOULD SHOULD PUT OUR SOLEMN MODE CENSOR ON TODAY. Or else it's totally inappropriate. Hell that was the response right from the beginning.

Pretty backward im my opinion. I'm in no way devaluing the people who lost their lives on that day, just the backward logic of the people that are so deeply hurt by this(especially if they don't even know anyone that died) but don't care the least bit, and actually enjoy making light of the attack on japan.

Same with pearl harbor. Pearl harbor, still a thing to think deep sad thoughts about all these years later. Blowing people up in japan or anywhere else with a different culture? Who gives a fuck? They're weird people of a different ethnic background practicing strange customs in a land far far away.


Just saying.
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ck0belskiWhy the hell would 9/11 be an inside job??? You can't possibly think that U.S officials would allow 3,000 people to be killed just for a foreign policy ploy to acquire middle eastern oil? Also, I agree with everyone else who says that this is not the time to be railing on conspiracy theories. It is a time to remember the innocent people affected by this tragedy.


Wouldn't be the first time the US government has committed an act of terrorism against itself to go to war. Operation Northwoods was a proposal to commit acts of terrorism by the CIA and other government organisations then blame it on communist Cuba and go to war with them. This isn't even a crack pot conspiracy theory, this is legit and it's in declassified documents. So the whole notion that the US government wouldn't kill its own citizens is bullshit, because they've thought about it before.
Sep 11 2015 7:55PM
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SKI.INGEither way its inappropriate today. What if I came up to you on the anniversary of your grandparents death or parents death and said how if they hadn't ate so much crap or smoked so much they'd still be alive? Wouldn't feel good right? Just leave it alone. They have sites for cretins like you somewhere else.


What the hell do those two things have to do with each other? Turn your brain back on bro.

Nobody is saying "If those morons had called into sick like I did that day they'd still be alive" which is what you're implying.

I just came on NS to post a picture of the cat I found and look at the shit I ran into.
Sep 11 2015 9:16PM
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Titus69Jet fuel can't melt steel beams

doesnt have to. just has to heat steel to a point where it looses enough strength to buckle under the load. Structural Engineering is the the science of making buildings that barely standup. Any jackass can overbuild a building and put costs through the roof. the twin towers were optomized, and jet fuel fire against non-insulated steel was not a condition that was accounted for.
CONAIR_BUSCEMII never intended for it to induce hate or frustration.

So, now you are calling us stupid? or youre just lying?
S.J.WI don't get it. A few months back when it was the 70th anniversary of dropping the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima, pretty much the whole thread was like fuck yeah we're the best we ended the war, and no sympathy was shown for Japan. But in this thread where OP does ask a pretty legit question "was 9,11 an inside job" and everyone freaks out and gets offended.

We were not at war in 2001. We did not instigate the violence. Japan instigated the violence, and was at war with us. THAT is the difference. And the response in that thread was actually that the bomb was a neccessary evil, a best of the worst scenarios. It was not all "fuck yeah, 'murica", as you non-americans so often like to misconstrue reactions on here.
S.J.WWouldn't be the first time the US government has committed an act of terrorism against itself to go to war. Operation Northwoods was a proposal to commit acts of terrorism by the CIA and other government organisations then blame it on communist Cuba and go to war with them. This isn't even a crack pot conspiracy theory, this is legit and it's in declassified documents. So the whole notion that the US government wouldn't kill its own citizens is bullshit, because they've thought about it before.


Operation Northwoods never even got close to getting off the ground. It was a spitballed idea that never came close to sticking.

If you want to talk about faking hostilities to get us into a war, you might be thinking of the Gulf of tonkin.
Sep 11 2015 9:41PM
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californiagrowndoesnt have to. just has to heat steel to a point where it looses enough strength to buckle under the load..


What happened to WTC 7?
Sep 11 2015 10:13PM
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las.What happened to WTC 7?


From what i understand, falling debris from the collapsing towers both damaged a few key supporting beams or columns, AND loaded the building dynamically and statically far beyond its capacities.


And FWIW, this is all assuming that these buildings were built to spec(which never happens even today, let alone in the fucking 50's haha). a few missing bolts here, a shitty weld there, a couple thin plates over there, and now no one can say what the building SHOULD have done. It just did, what it did.
Sep 11 2015 10:21PM
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im so tired of 9/11 conspiracies and jokes. youre out of your fucking mind if you think somebody is gonna watch a 2 hour video. whenever somebody says "bush did 911" or "jet fuel doesnt melt steel beams" i feel the urge to punch them in the throat because those jokes are so not funny at all.
Sep 11 2015 10:48PM
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9/11 is my birthday lmao
Sep 11 2015 10:56PM
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yungsteezeim so tired of 9/11 conspiracies and jokes. youre out of your fucking mind if you think somebody is gonna watch a 2 hour video. whenever somebody says "bush did 911" or "jet fuel doesnt melt steel beams" i feel the urge to punch them in the throat because those jokes are so not funny at all.


Bush did 911

Fight me irl
Sep 11 2015 11:16PM
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S.J.W
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Bateman9/11 is my birthday lmao


Aye your dad crashed his plane into yo mummas twin towers
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