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Skis Fall Off When Landing Switch

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APunx176
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Last year I tried a lot of tricks and I could never land any 180s or 540s because of landing switch. Every time I'd land switch one of my skis would fall off, but the bindings weren't actually releasing. It also might be useful to note that according to my friend, my skis just kind of fell off when I tried a 720. I don't know if that is accurate or not though because I was knocked out.

I'm thinking it has to do with the bindings not being put on correctly, but I could also just be landing too far forward. The heel piece of one of the skis is just a little bit loose. Also my DINs are set at about 6 and I'm a 160 lbs skier hitting average sized jumps.
Sep 3 2015 5:48AM
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BungHole.
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Im not saying this is definitely your problem, but im 140 lbs riding din 8
Sep 3 2015 6:17AM
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andy9127
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definitely tighten your DINS
Sep 3 2015 6:37AM
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samuel_ski
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BungHole.Im not saying this is definitely your problem, but im 140 lbs riding din 8


Same here. I had the same problem so i raised my DIN and that helped a ton
Sep 3 2015 7:42AM
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BAYKUR
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HIKE UP THOSE DINS
Sep 3 2015 7:54AM
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APunx176
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BungHole.Im not saying this is definitely your problem, but im 140 lbs riding din 8


andy9127definitely tighten your DINS


SamuelSki11Same here. I had the same problem so i raised my DIN and that helped a ton


ski-bolaHIKE UP THOSE DINS


Thanks guys.
Sep 3 2015 8:06AM
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.Morton
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If they're only coming off switch it may mean that your dins aren't even or the pressure is messed up. I would take it to a shop if adjusting the dins doesn't seem to help
Sep 3 2015 8:16AM
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MNSkiers
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https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/753125.0/What-happens-if-you-buy-squires?t=6#ZYcsp2oehPyAu1dx.97
Sep 3 2015 11:14AM
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E_Z_STEEZ
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if you have squires there's no hell retention that begins in the griffin fks and pivot (i tink for fks not sure) so when you land switch you ll fly out so you can either crank those dins up till they dont come off (kinda unsafe but i did it) or get new bindings depending on size either griffon or fks/pivot 14 or jester even your ski shop should be able to help you out
Sep 3 2015 11:29AM
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Swandog7
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I had squires and broke the brakes 5-6 times last year and IM 115lbs. I pooped out switch a lot last year as well, and my DINs weren't that low for me. Mine pooped out coming out switch of rails a lot, and had some heel piece problems with them last year. Almost got Griffons too but the shop said otherwise
Sep 3 2015 1:11PM
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.GUCCI.
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I'd say you need to buy Full Tilts.
Sep 3 2015 1:20PM
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iH8pow
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What bindings do you have? I've had issues with Marker and Tyrolia bindings regardless on what DIN I have them set.

On the flip side, I generally use Look PX 12s and 15 style bindings and now FKS bindings on my park skis and honestly I never need them any tighter than set at 8 and I'm 175-180lbs generally.

Just ramp the DIN up slightly when it releases unnecessarily. Don't overtighten because that's a good way to blow your ligaments and fuck your season up (and leave you vulnerable for live). Leaving a ski on the landing is dangerous, but not as dangerous as skiing on something that won't release
Sep 3 2015 2:14PM
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eheath
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Might be good to check out your forward pressure as well.
Sep 3 2015 2:25PM
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tomPietrowski
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eheathMight be good to check out your forward pressure as well.


eheath has it. Rather then just upping your dins first get both your boots checked and the binding adjustment checked.

If your boots are worn that may be contributing to the problems.

If the bindings are adjusted incorrectly it can be very easy to release.

Go go have both checked and if they are both good then you can slowly raise the din. But don't just go upping the din without having the rest checked as you could very easily get injured if you go too high.
Sep 3 2015 2:53PM
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robotdna
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There was a post a year back about something similar, and a guy presented an interesting counter-intuitive solution. He said to actually loosen the DIN slightly. That way, the binding-boot combo could flex a bit more during landings instead of the hard impact just ripping the ski off.

Not sure if it would help, but you could try and see.
Sep 3 2015 4:10PM
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E-Bracht
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robotdnaThere was a post a year back about something similar, and a guy presented an interesting counter-intuitive solution. He said to actually loosen the DIN slightly. That way, the binding-boot combo could flex a bit more during landings instead of the hard impact just ripping the ski off.

Not sure if it would help, but you could try and see.


Trolling way too hard XD

My suggestion is to check your forward pressure. Even with a low din setting, you should land those tricks if you're stomping them.
Sep 3 2015 6:30PM
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CHORIZO
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Swandog7I had squires and broke the brakes 5-6 times last year and IM 115lbs. I pooped out switch a lot last year as well, and my DINs weren't that low for me. Mine pooped out coming out switch of rails a lot, and had some heel piece problems with them last year. Almost got Griffons too but the shop said otherwise




squires suck nuts. I had to buy 5 brakes throughout the season, luckily this guy at a ski shop gave em to mo for $5 otherwise i wouldve had to pay a junk ton of money
Sep 3 2015 7:20PM
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Swandog7
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ANUSTARTsquires suck nuts. I had to buy 5 brakes throughout the season, luckily this guy at a ski shop gave em to mo for $5 otherwise i wouldve had to pay a junk ton of money


the first two i got free, then had to pay $35 a pair
Sep 3 2015 7:46PM
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robotdna
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E-BrachtTrolling way too hard XD

My suggestion is to check your forward pressure. Even with a low din setting, you should land those tricks if you're stomping them.


I'm actually not, I wish I could find the thread. It was last season. I'm pretty sure theabortionator made the post, even though he's a boarder. Although I might have gotten him mixed up with an equally active member.

Does it not make sense? The binding isn't as tight, so it's more pliable and flexible. Imagine yanking quickly on a piece of paper vs. a small rubber band. They can both break, but the rubber band doesn't break as quickly.

OP, I'm being serious. PM me if you want. Also try the forward pressure thing. Just try several things and see what works for you. Everyone is different. Be careful when cranking up DIN as knee injuries can occur. Do it in increments. Don't jump up a whole bunch of numbers.
Sep 3 2015 7:52PM
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equinn
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im 160 lbs and i ride on 9 dins...tighten em up
Sep 3 2015 9:19PM
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elcornholio
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Soak your toe pieces in epoxy so that they won't let you out and crank your heels DINs.
Sep 3 2015 9:49PM
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APunx176
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MNSkiershttps://www.newschoolers.com/watch/753125.0/What-happens-if-you-buy-squires?t=6#ZYcsp2oehPyAu1dx.97


E_Z_STEEZif you have squires there's no hell retention that begins in the griffin fks and pivot (i tink for fks not sure) so when you land switch you ll fly out so you can either crank those dins up till they dont come off (kinda unsafe but i did it) or get new bindings depending on size either griffon or fks/pivot 14 or jester even your ski shop should be able to help you out


Swandog7I had squires and broke the brakes 5-6 times last year and IM 115lbs. I pooped out switch a lot last year as well, and my DINs weren't that low for me. Mine pooped out coming out switch of rails a lot, and had some heel piece problems with them last year. Almost got Griffons too but the shop said otherwise


Is there actually truth to this? Is it just the bindings?
Sep 5 2015 8:48AM
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NSM
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dude if you're going kinda big and landing switch, put that din up to at least 8 or 9. Thats what I use when I just ride rails and small jumps, otherwise I pump it up to 10 for big jumps, you don't want that shit releasing upon impact, and if they're not shitty bindings they still will if you bail

or could be that they're not well adjusted to your boots, too much or too little will fuck it up
Sep 5 2015 9:36AM
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APunx176
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NSMdude if you're going kinda big and landing switch, put that din up to at least 8 or 9. Thats what I use when I just ride rails and small jumps, otherwise I pump it up to 10 for big jumps, you don't want that shit releasing upon impact, and if they're not shitty bindings they still will if you bail

or could be that they're not well adjusted to your boots, too much or too little will fuck it up


I'm thinking about getting them looked at and then upping the DINS to 7 or 8. They only go up to 10 or 11 so I don't want to raise the DINs so much that they're constantly releasing
Sep 5 2015 10:15AM
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Young_patty
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do you by any chance use marker squires?
Sep 5 2015 10:56AM
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littleman34
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APunx176Last year I tried a lot of tricks and I could never land any 180s or 540s because of landing switch. Every time I'd land switch one of my skis would fall off, but the bindings weren't actually releasing. It also might be useful to note that according to my friend, my skis just kind of fell off when I tried a 720. I don't know if that is accurate or not though because I was knocked out.

I'm thinking it has to do with the bindings not being put on correctly, but I could also just be landing too far forward. The heel piece of one of the skis is just a little bit loose. Also my DINs are set at about 6 and I'm a 160 lbs skier hitting average sized jumps.


Because you said that you heel peice is a little loose. Tighten is to your boot. It's really easy and will probably solve your problem. Also yeh cramp that din to like 10. Good luck on your 720
Sep 8 2015 3:44PM
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jackdonovan
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Swandog7I pooped out switch a lot last year as well


Swandog7Mine pooped out coming out switch of rails a lot


that's hot
Sep 8 2015 7:19PM
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APunx176
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Young_pattydo you by any chance use marker squires?


Yup

steeze_boiBecause you said that you heel peice is a little loose. Tighten is to your boot. It's really easy and will probably solve your problem. Also yeh cramp that din to like 10. Good luck on your 720


10 would be bad because they only go up to 11 but I'm gonna put them up to 7 and maybe 8. Thanks man
Sep 9 2015 3:42PM
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MNSkiers
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https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/753125.0/What-happens-if-you-buy-squires?t=6#f2WKeWSj3FAKJgZl.97
Sep 9 2015 3:58PM
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MNSkiers
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https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/753125.0/What-happens-if-you-buy-squires?t=6#f2WKeWSj3FAKJgZl.97
Sep 9 2015 3:58PM
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Young_patty
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APunx176Yup


There's your problem, squires are the worst.
Sep 10 2015 10:06AM
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PoLaRpEaK
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Well you can't just land switch on any binding! Also crank the DIN. I forget what mine is at but I've been riding them in the 8 to 10 range for the past decade and I'm 145 lbs.
Sep 10 2015 12:48PM
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