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marrowsJob:
Resort job (Pros: Free pass+discounts, possible accom, free transport to the hill(often provided anyway) Cons: Have to talk to punters. May work alot, and depending on resort and your job, may not get alot of ride time- avoid F&B departments at all cost!)
Village/Town Job (Pros: Night shift work=alot of riding, possibly better accom and/or wages once again depends on where you go. Cons: Have to get a pass, have to get to the hill, no on-hill discounts)
Location:
Depends entirely on what you're looking for and what time of year it is. Proximity to other resorts etc
Car: If you are seeking true "ski bum" lifestyle, this may be your home aswell. Get something reliable, cheap, and depending on the road to your resort, possibly 4WD?
House: Hopefully included with job, or could be expensive.
Insurance: I'm not american so I don't know about this jewfag shit-scam.
Tools: uh........???? condoms?
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pretty much this..

I'd also say become friends with a lot of the F&B people to get the hookup on food. ALL of my old roommates who worked in F&B brought home extra food from the day as long as you have a problem with re-heating stuff.. also get in good with bartenders.. not saying you'll always get drinks on the house (because you won't) but occasionally which is nice.

Also.. if you're not wanting to get a car or save gas. Ride free public transportation. In Steamboat/Park City/Summit County I always garaged my car for the winter and rode the bus. You could definitely get by without a vehicle though if you don't have a problem waiting in buses and they have that option where you go.

I've learned most any "mountain operations" job is really fun and you get LOTS of freedom while working with some of the best people you'll meet, most easy going bosses. Not saying you and your co-workers do a shit job.. you just get a lot more freedoms, do more fun things like drive snowcats and snowmobiles, ride-breaks, behind the scenes shit that you'll never forget like those sunrises. DO NOT get "mountain ops" confused with "lift ops". Way too many rules, short ride breaks if any, and usually douchey supervisors. That's just my option.

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slum.lordI've learned most any "mountain operations" job is really fun and you get LOTS of freedom while working with some of the best people you'll meet, most easy going bosses. Not saying you and your co-workers do a shit job.. you just get a lot more freedoms, do more fun things like drive snowcats and snowmobiles, ride-breaks, behind the scenes shit that you'll never forget like those sunrises. DO NOT get "mountain ops" confused with "lift ops". Way too many rules, short ride breaks if any, and usually douchey supervisors. That's just my option.

Yeah, speaking from experience I'd say mtn ops is def. the best way to go, for all those reasons (SUNRISES and SUNSETS!)

....except road crew or carpark crew, don't do that.

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slum.lordI've learned most any "mountain operations" job is really fun and you get LOTS of freedom while working with some of the best people you'll meet, most easy going bosses. Not saying you and your co-workers do a shit job.. you just get a lot more freedoms, do more fun things like drive snowcats and snowmobiles, ride-breaks, behind the scenes shit that you'll never forget like those sunrises. DO NOT get "mountain ops" confused with "lift ops". Way too many rules, short ride breaks if any, and usually douchey supervisors. That's just my option.

Could you describe some of the "mountain op" jobs you know about and what the pros/cons are?

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DFJCould you describe some of the "mountain op" jobs you know about and what the pros/cons are?

Yeah no problem. I can say these are soley based on my experience doing this jobs.. I'm sure others will chime in if they think of something..

Snowmaking
Pros:
-get to drive snowmobiles.
-get to see how resort get ready for the season.
-YOU are they reason why resorts open.
-sunrises and sunsets are killer, not to mention if you have a minute to look you --can see the constellations and planets.
-usually a chill crew
-long breaks when you're maxed out and have good temps
-usually you can pick your shift preference
-good pay & always advancement opportunity
-shovel races down the ice/snow whales (big ass snow pile)

-Cons:
long hours
-freezing cold and wet (but they give you great outwear so your fine)
-manual labor (breaking ice off the guns/towers, digging out buried shit)
-if you're grave shift.. you sleep all day
-guns are LOUD without earplugs
-did I mention lots of manual labor?

Grooming
Pros:
-you get to drive a snowcat (personally prefer snowcats with sticks over stirring wheel, but as far as i know thats only a PistenBully thing)
-you get to drive a snowcat....
-some cats have XM radio
-comfy seats
-pays great w/ lots of opportunity for advancement
-work by yourself & listen to music
-sunrise/sunsets/planets and shit
-nothing like being on top of the mountain in your cat at 2am and just looking down at the city

Cons:
-alone for long periods of time
-running over fences, poles, random shit with your tiller
-when lifties don't bring in their line corrals at night
-often monotonous work
-can only work at night (exception to vail as far as I know they still do day grooming?)

Parks
Pros:
-learn a lot about carpentry and welding
-most all departments like you
-chilling with people in the park
-if you're not doing a special project or maintaining features.. you're just skiing park and having a good time(we could at all the places I've been)
-grilling out... A LOT
-you pretty much can use any equipment you need to get the job done
-you learn a lot about building quality features.
-amazing co-workers
-lots of free crap during events

Cons:
-you can get lazy and your park suffers.. don't get lazy
-yelling at stupid parents/kids for standing on lips and jumps
-kids sitting at the bench feature in the park having lunch
-when you get a snowstorm and digging everything out

There are plenty of other jobs, but those are a few that I've worked and can say some things about. Hope that helps a little

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the more marketable life skills you possess
less bummin ya gots to do
ya ski everyday reguardless

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qyleberryI am curious how to go about living a "Ski Bum" lifestyle the best most efficient way? I've done a lot of reading and was wondering if there are any Ski Bums on here with advice.

If camping out be aware of your surroundings when taking a piss in the bushes. Animals like to chill in bushes....

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JOBS: Shop worker or work at the resort
CAR: your house a van would be nice 4wd
House small house by the resort
OTher be obsessed with it!

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Thank you for all responses! +k to all, what about school? I would have to go to college anyway so what do I study?

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qyleberryThank you for all responses! +k to all, what about school? I would have to go to college anyway so what do I study?

'bum' and 'study' don't really go hand in hand, especially when you throw skiing into the mix.

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Work a little, ski a lot, learn to live below your means. You guys really overthink the whole "ski bum" thing.

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Yea, I know that, but I am going to be forced to go to college anyways... So what should I study anyways

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qyleberryYea, I know that, but I am going to be forced to go to college anyways... So what should I study anyways

for starters what are some of your interests that could translate into an education?

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slum.lordfor starters what are some of your interests that could translate into an education?

TBH I have no Idea, I would love to work at a ski shop because I love fixing skis... Thats the only job I could see myself doing, that or just do some random job at night so I can ski all day... I would not be a Ski Bum my entire life, but I'd like to do it as long as I can. I just don't know what I should study so I can get a job to make enough money to ski

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qyleberryTBH I have no Idea, I would love to work at a ski shop because I love fixing skis... Thats the only job I could see myself doing, that or just do some random job at night so I can ski all day... I would not be a Ski Bum my entire life, but I'd like to do it as long as I can. I just don't know what I should study so I can get a job to make enough money to ski

Have friends who took some of these programs and lived the ski bum life while doing it.
How do these sounds?

=Ski%20%26%20Snowboard%20Industry]http://coloradomtn.edu/programs/?wdt_column_filter[Interest%20Area]=Ski%20%26%20Snowboard%20Industry

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slum.lordHave friends who took some of these programs and lived the ski bum life while doing it.
How do these sounds?

=Ski%20%26%20Snowboard%20Industry]http://coloradomtn.edu/programs/?wdt_column_filter[Interest%20Area]=Ski%20%26%20Snowboard%20Industry

Dude thank you so much for all the help! Those sound great!

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Job: shut the fuck up
Location: kill yourself
Car:i fucking hate you
House:im depressed
Insurance: i hate my life
Tools: fuck you
Other drink bleach u ugly fat fuck

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dtwizzleJob: shut the fuck up
Location: kill yourself
Car:i fucking hate you
House:im depressed
Insurance: i hate my life
Tools: fuck you
Other drink bleach u ugly fat fuck

Thanks for the advice! +K to you and I hope you have a better day(:

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Job: Web Developer
Location: This year with be Mammoth, Japan, Austria, Switzerland, France, More Mammoth, then probably Chile
Car: Dont own one
House: I have a PO box and my mail is forwarded to my mom
Insurance: ACA and then travel insurance
Tools: duct tape
Other: Invest in 1 really fucking good set up that you feel good with. Then you can buy disposable stuff and resell when leaving a location at very little cost.

This is year 9 of ski bumming.

Year one was like this:

Job: Hotel front desk (mountain job)
Location: Mammoth Lakes
Car: Subaru Impreza
House: lived with 5 Norwegians
Insurance: none
Tools: my vagina
Other: don't drink and drive.

The funny part about this is that I really don't make THAT much more now than I did 9 years ago. Mostly because I was working 40 hours a week back then and now I work around 20 hours a week but only get to keep about 45 cents for every dollar I make, vs back then it was closer to 90 cents for every dollar. I'm MUCH happier now though.

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RachyTools: my vagina
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what mountain is the cheapest/best for living as a park skier; whistler, PC, Key, Breck etc...

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EARLYBIRDSwhat mountain is the cheapest/best for living as a park skier; whistler, PC, Key, Breck etc...

Yea this is a good question too! Anyone know?

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EARLYBIRDSwhat mountain is the cheapest/best for living as a park skier; whistler, PC, Key, Breck etc...

Depends.. would you be looking for employee housing? roommates? or just you?

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RachyJob: Web Developer
Location: This year with be Mammoth, Japan, Austria, Switzerland, France, More Mammoth, then probably Chile
Car: Dont own one
House: I have a PO box and my mail is forwarded to my mom
Insurance: ACA and then travel insurance
Tools: duct tape
Other: Invest in 1 really fucking good set up that you feel good with. Then you can buy disposable stuff and resell when leaving a location at very little cost.

This is year 9 of ski bumming.

Year one was like this:

Job: Hotel front desk (mountain job)
Location: Mammoth Lakes
Car: Subaru Impreza
House: lived with 5 Norwegians
Insurance: none
Tools: my vagina
Other: don't drink and drive.

The funny part about this is that I really don't make THAT much more now than I did 9 years ago. Mostly because I was working 40 hours a week back then and now I work around 20 hours a week but only get to keep about 45 cents for every dollar I make, vs back then it was closer to 90 cents for every dollar. I'm MUCH happier now though.

What is the best job you've had ski bumming?

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ski-hippieWhat is the best job you've had ski bumming?

I have been....

Outside Sales (mountain), Ski Instructor (mountain), Ski shop (private), Hotel front desk (mountain), Hotel front desk supervisor (private), Snow Reporter/marketing coordinator (mountain), Jaeger girl (private), web developer (what I do now).

All of them had their perks...
Ski instructing was probably my least favorite. I even had advanced kids usually and I still got skier envy.
Snow reporter was great because I would start at 5am and basically had to work 8 hours between 5am and 5pm. There were plenty of times that those 8 hours included skiing for several hours taking photos and going out with different groups and what not. But... it is a pain to wake up at 4:30 am when your friends are staying out till 2 am.
Working at a hotel front desk is great because it's pretty easy work, sometimes you get tips and they are usually very good with scheduling so some weeks you'll have 3 7- 3 shifts and some weeks you'll have 2 7 -3 shifts and the rest are 3 -11. Just don't expect the pay to be high.
Then there is the ski shop. I'm pretty certain I was spoiled with mine. The pay was $2 an hour more than what the mountain offered and came with health insurance. First season was 25% off, pro forms, and access to a shop pass which for me was available every single time I went for it. Second season was 50% off (or cost if it cost more than the 50% discount) half the season pass paid for. Third was 50% off and free season pass. Every year came with a dollar raise. People in that shop pretty much don't quit.
What I do now is of course my favorite.
I will say that most of my friends are in the food service industry. I wouldn't have patience for this. Just not my thing.
My friends that drive snowcats seem to complain about their work less than anyone else.

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slum.lordDepends.. would you be looking for employee housing? roommates? or just you?

honestly i have a very good summer job so just chillin and skiing maybe roommate maybe living on car lol

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RachyI have been....

Outside Sales (mountain), Ski Instructor (mountain), Ski shop (private), Hotel front desk (mountain), Hotel front desk supervisor (private), Snow Reporter/marketing coordinator (mountain), Jaeger girl (private), web developer (what I do now).

All of them had their perks...
Ski instructing was probably my least favorite. I even had advanced kids usually and I still got skier envy.
Snow reporter was great because I would start at 5am and basically had to work 8 hours between 5am and 5pm. There were plenty of times that those 8 hours included skiing for several hours taking photos and going out with different groups and what not. But... it is a pain to wake up at 4:30 am when your friends are staying out till 2 am.
Working at a hotel front desk is great because it's pretty easy work, sometimes you get tips and they are usually very good with scheduling so some weeks you'll have 3 7- 3 shifts and some weeks you'll have 2 7 -3 shifts and the rest are 3 -11. Just don't expect the pay to be high.
Then there is the ski shop. I'm pretty certain I was spoiled with mine. The pay was $2 an hour more than what the mountain offered and came with health insurance. First season was 25% off, pro forms, and access to a shop pass which for me was available every single time I went for it. Second season was 50% off (or cost if it cost more than the 50% discount) half the season pass paid for. Third was 50% off and free season pass. Every year came with a dollar raise. People in that shop pretty much don't quit.
What I do now is of course my favorite.
I will say that most of my friends are in the food service industry. I wouldn't have patience for this. Just not my thing.
My friends that drive snowcats seem to complain about their work less than anyone else.

So basicaly you love working in the ski shop? Did you have to got to any school for that or you just applied and they hired you?

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JK u like the web designing, but did you have a college degree or anything for the ski shop?

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Kyle Berry is famous. By the way you are smat af.

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People who commented gave good advice good thread.

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Well what I am planning on doing (and advise to you) is after high-school attend college for a normal four year bachelors degree. It doesn't have to be a fancy college, but it is hard to go back to school after taking a few years off. Get a degree in something you enjoy and maybe plan to use in future such as a marketing (could create a job marketing for a ski or outdoor company). I advise you to go to college because you may only be a ski bum for a few years and want to start a career but still want to be emersed in the ski world. You can have a sweet job doing what you love and actually sleep on a matress under your own roof. Hate it or love it- just my ideas I was hoping to share great thread BTW.

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EARLYBIRDShonestly i have a very good summer job so just chillin and skiing maybe roommate maybe living on car lol

haha I know guys who tried roughing it in there car all winter.. didn't last long. You should have no problem finding a cheap place anywhere you go. The prime to to look is now through Oct.

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qyleberryJK u like the web designing, but did you have a college degree or anything for the ski shop?

Haha I had a college degree, but I'm pretty sure that a degree is not a prerequisite for a ski shop job. However, a lot of the people I worked with had them. I think it was just the nature of the store though. One of the top shops in the country, everyone was super educated about the products. The owners treated their employees with so much respect. I've worked in other shops, and this was a totally different environment.

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RachyHaha I had a college degree, but I'm pretty sure that a degree is not a prerequisite for a ski shop job. However, a lot of the people I worked with had them. I think it was just the nature of the store though. One of the top shops in the country, everyone was super educated about the products. The owners treated their employees with so much respect. I've worked in other shops, and this was a totally different environment.

OK Thank you so much for all the help, I will def remember these tips for the future.

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If you really want to do it on the cheap get an overnight job and a car you can sleep in. You'll eventually get hassled sleeping in your vehicle at night, but during the day no one gives a shit and it's warmer.

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qyleberryTBH I have no Idea, I would love to work at a ski shop because I love fixing skis... Thats the only job I could see myself doing, that or just do some random job at night so I can ski all day... I would not be a Ski Bum my entire life, but I'd like to do it as long as I can. I just don't know what I should study so I can get a job to make enough money to ski

Colorado Mountain College do a degree in skiing buisness and tourism that includes shop management, cat and grooming operations and a bunch of other mountain ops qualificaitons

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StaticIf you really want to do it on the cheap get an overnight job and a car you can sleep in. You'll eventually get hassled sleeping in your vehicle at night, but during the day no one gives a shit and it's warmer.

SeersDuressColorado Mountain College do a degree in skiing buisness and tourism that includes shop management, cat and grooming operations and a bunch of other mountain ops qualificaitons

Thank your for the tips, +k

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Info for other people... and if anyone else has any more tips...

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job: Park Crew
Car: Van
House: live in your car
Insurance: nothing
Tools: waxing kit, mounting jig
Location: where ever the snow falls

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steves_nutsjob: Park Crew
Car: Van
House: live in your car
Insurance: nothing
Tools: waxing kit, mounting jig
Location: where ever the snow falls

I love everything about this. I have a waxing kit and learned all about that, but the jig.... How do I learn to use one? Youtube it? or ask a shop? Where do I buy them? I can't find any online...

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qyleberryYea, I know that, but I am going to be forced to go to college anyways... So what should I study anyways

Dude youre obviously a 12 year old bitch, who still hasnt discovered that you dont need to do everything your parents tell you to do. Nobody can force you to go to college, once youre an adult you can make your own decisions.

thats all ive got to say.

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qyleberryI love everything about this. I have a waxing kit and learned all about that, but the jig.... How do I learn to use one? Youtube it? or ask a shop? Where do I buy them? I can't find any online...

go to a shop they will show you how to use one and they might help you in purchasing one

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LUPTONDude youre obviously a 12 year old bitch, who still hasnt discovered that you dont need to do everything your parents tell you to do. Nobody can force you to go to college, once youre an adult you can make your own decisions.

thats all ive got to say.

Actually if your parents give you a medium size trust fund that is not a enough to be set for life but your good until your about 30 that they will cut off if you don't go to college you sorta have to listen to them

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LUPTONDude youre obviously a 12 year old bitch, who still hasnt discovered that you dont need to do everything your parents tell you to do. Nobody can force you to go to college, once youre an adult you can make your own decisions.

thats all ive got to say.

Yea I am, and I feel like I need to go to college even if I don't have to listen to my parents, so I'm going to college...

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steves_nutsgo to a shop they will show you how to use one and they might help you in purchasing one

Ok thanks for the help

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Bringing this back because my question is on same topic

If you live in your car, it's obviously going to be freezing a lot so what do you do to stay warm other than have blankets and clothes...

Is insulation Possible?

+k for all responses

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