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fuckmekevinLiberals are just as anti-environmentalism as republicans are. They just hide under guise of pro-environmentalism. Look at fracking for example. In a 42 year period it is more dangerous to the OZONE layer than Coal. Over half of the wells will crack in the next 42 years. Obama and Hilary sold it to the world, promoting it as clean, environmentally friendly energy.
.MASSHOLE.Your president, ladies and gentlemen. Denying intelligence reports are correct because they don't agree with his agenda.
.MASSHOLE.If you're going to make these claims, back them up please. Google is yielding nothing but conspiracy posts.
TheHamburglarHere's the crux of the problem of your views, as well as the fundamental issue of the bipartisan system; no political issue is EVER black and white, as you keep simplifying them to be. You are well aware of this, yet seem to defy your own logic when you come to these wildly off-base conclusions that reinforce the us versus them mentality.
It's possible to be a progressive liberal and still believe in "traditional" American values. Just because you want a safe homeland doesn't mean it's necessary to vehemently discriminate against entire groups of people because of a few bad apples. That's also vast oversimplification, but the general idea remains. Your ways of thinking are those of the past, and have only led to further sectarian division. Many baby boomers have views like you, and thankfully, that thought process is literally dying out. I believe this paradigm is born out of fear and ignorance rather than logic and reality.
Yes, I have stated that radicalized Muslims are a real threat to our country, and while your rhetoric isn't the root of the problem, it's not doing any good. There are plenty of good people in any group, and some bad. Your lack of recognition for Muslims who do good things for humanity and try to improve quality of life for those around them is a problem, though. Vilifying an entire group of people, no matter what book they pledge to, is a problem. There's a huge amount of discrimination preached in the bible, yet we choose to overlook those points and focus exclusively on the koran?
The point is, this country is a walking contradiction, and while there are crazies on both sides (like you on the Right), there is a huge number of people stuck in the middle who disagree with the contemporary issues with our government, criticize those who perform poorly in public forums, and ultimately think for themselves. I can't put my full support behind the Democratic party because I know how, well, self-interested they can be. However, the same is true for the Right. I don't support self-interest, especially in government, but who do you think is really more guilty of this, Dems or Repubs? Do you really think Trump holds the interests of American citizens closer than the interests of his and his friends' pocketbooks?
CampeadorI mean, how easily can you all be deceived?
"El-Messidi read the news of yet another vandalized Jewish cemetery. This time it hit closer to home, just miles from where he lives in Philadelphia. He called fellow Muslim [Sharia] activist, Linda Sarsour, and they agreed to use the remaining funds to help with repairs and restoration."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2017/02/27/stand-together-against-this-bigotry-another-jewish-cemetery-vandalized-and-again-muslims-reach-out-to-help/?utm_term=.ee6514d87fa1
CampeadorMore fake news and fake outrage from the ever hysterical far-Left.
Now the target is Jeff Sessions, but these Marxist rats will fail. The Soros NGOs (as well as Soros himself) should be investigated and charged with sedition.
No one outside of the alt-Left believes your Russian conspiracy fantasies.
Gods_FatherTyping fake news into google doesn't lead you to conspiracy blogs? Haha search engine noob.
fuckmekevinCould be that the Intel agencies are lying, like they have normally done throughout history. If they provided proof, I'll bite but you and I know they haven't, just hearsay.
fuckmekevinYou do realize that this is and of itself a conspiracy. Hence, the reason why conspiracy sites write about them. A conspiracy is a legitimate happening, that occurs everyday. Look up mintpressnews and see if they write about it. They'll provide sources, unlike CNN and all the other corporate news outlets. You can tell a new agency sucks ass when they censor all commentary and comments. If frank zappa was living today he would due of prostate cancer again from the sheer amount of censorship in the media.
VinnieFI don't see what you're getting at. Are you saying it wasn;t vandalized or that Muslims didn't help? What's deceiving about this article? It's a pointless article that's trying to push an agenda and I could care less, but it's not deceiving. It's truthful.
btw you still haven't provided any verifiable fake news pieces from media organizations like BBC or CBC or whatever.
CampeadorI was pointing out how easily liberals are deceived by militant islam.
The only reason these peddlers of Sharia law helped repair the Jewish cemetery, is so that they could get press coverage from the useful idiots at the Washington Post. They know full well how to manipulate all of you.
Either the person who wrote the article is willfully clueless, or purposefully aiding and abetting Sharia muslim organizations by painting them as "helping" in a show of "interfaith solidarity", even though anyone with an ounce of sense knows that Sharia muslims hate Jews with a passion. To peddle this sort of deceitful propaganda is shameful.
Just as Wikileaks proved that the fake news outlets were actively colluding with the DNC,
http://observer.com/2016/10/rigged-debates-wikileaks-emails-confirm-media-in-clintons-pocket/
The fake news organizations like the New York Times have admitted that they have given up on any form of real journalism.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/business/balance-fairness-and-a-proudly-provocative-presidential-candidate.html
And they spread lies,
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/us/politics/rick-perry-energy-secretary-donald-trump.html?_r=2&mtrref=www.mediaite.com
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/the-times-may-have-launched-a-false-rumor-about-rick-perry.html?mid=twitter-share-di
I'll find more examples later.
californiagrownThe times article quotes a legit source. The source said his comments were misinterpreted.
How is the subject of the article fraudulent?
Bad editing/writing doesn't mean it's fake news, champ. It just means it's shitty editing/writing.
CampeadorIsn't it nice being civil?
However, you unwavering adherence to the moral and cultural relativism you espouse makes it difficult for you to see the picture clearly. In terms of something like Sharia law, it is very black and white. Sharia law is antithetical to freedom, and is a disease that cannot be allowed to metastasize in any Western society. Comparing Sharia law and other elements of militant Islam to anything from any other major religion is simply wrong, on a large scale no other religious groups acts in the way that Muslims do.
Only in Islam do we see frequent suicide bombings.
Only in Islam do we see religiously condoned rape of non-believers.
Only in Islam do we see believers actively encouraged to kill infidels.
Only in Islam do we see major religious leaders call for the death of non-believers.
Only in Islam do we see fathers routinely kill their daughters for "bringing dishonor to the family".
Only in Islam do we see widespread terrorism, inspired by the very writing of the so-called "religious" texts.
Only in Islam are women routinely beaten and abused, which is also condoned by the religion.
I could go on for a while, but the gist is that you cannot compare Islam to other religions. It is a militant, totalitarian political ideology wrapped in the cloak of religion. In terms of Jew hatred, Mein Kampf doesn't even come close to the Koran.
Now, we constantly hear the "not all muslims do this!"
Sure, when they're in the minority. The closer a society gets to adhering to Sharia and other elements of Islam, the more backwards and vile it becomes.
When was the last time you saw muslims protesting outside of a Jihad-linked mosque?
Political islamic groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR exist to further just one end, to spread islam and Sharia across the globe. They believe the world is divided into only two spheres, the dar al-islam (lands under muslim control) and the dar al-harb, meaning the "land of war" (the lands of non-believers).
Now, most of the leadership of islam is dominated by ideological islam. The main islamic associations in the United States, CAIR, ISNA, NAIT, and several others are all involved with the Muslim Brotherhood.
Muslims themselves must speak out against these organizations that promote Sharia. Beside a few sparse examples, such a Zuhdi Jasser, we have seen almost none of this. Instead, we have seen far-Left groups join arms with these Sharia groups in the cause of some twisted, intersectional idea of "civil rights".
.MASSHOLE.Well you must be really confident of your source since you are so willing to share it.
Here is the thing, everyone is allowed to be skeptical of the IC after the Bush fiasco, hell I openly endorse it but to openly discredit the IC and media when it doesn't agree with his narrative is wrong. Destroying the trust in these bodies is, indirectly, discrediting every body that can dispute the president with what is now eroding credibility.
See, this is my problem with many conspiracies. Conspiracies require two things, the belief that the body covering up the event is so incompetent they can't actually do what they're supposed to do (which is very plausible), but also that every person keeps quiet about it.
I have trouble believing the 2nd part in the case of the media. What is stopping a former camera man, sound tech, etc. from saying it is fake?
.MASSHOLE.Well you must be really confident of your source since you are so willing to share it.
Here is the thing, everyone is allowed to be skeptical of the IC after the Bush fiasco, hell I openly endorse it but to openly discredit the IC and media when it doesn't agree with his narrative is wrong. Destroying the trust in these bodies is, indirectly, discrediting every body that can dispute the president with what is now eroding credibility.
See, this is my problem with many conspiracies. Conspiracies require two things, the belief that the body covering up the event is so incompetent they can't actually do what they're supposed to do (which is very plausible), but also that every person keeps quiet about it.
I have trouble believing the 2nd part in the case of the media. What is stopping a former camera man, sound tech, etc. from saying it is fake?
Gods_FatherA source from something I read many years ago? Not my fault you fail at using search engines.
TheHamburglarDeflection at it's finest, right here.
I criticized you for oversimplifying complicated issues into having only two sides (presumably conservative and liberal), and for making generalized claims about entire groups of people.
What is your response? Literally "You're too liberal to see the big picture," followed by "All Muslims are evil," then a history lesson on Sharia Law (which is common knowledge already.)
I was criticizing YOU, and your narcissistic unwillingness to recognize the validity of any argument that goes against your views. You and Trump share this trait, and this is the main reason why the rest of the world is laughing at us. Your deflecting response is hilariously born out of nowhere, but not surprising. Just proving my point further.
I have never defended Islam at any point, in fact, I believe all organized religion is a detriment to our society and progressivism in general. But there are other options to the refugee/immigrant solution other than "all or none." It seems like you're insinuating that letting more Muslims into our country will cause Sharia to be instilled. That's simply not true. You're fear-mongering.
You say that Sharia law is a disease. You know what else is a disease? Narcissism. Closed-minded people like you, unwilling to acknowledge dissenting opinions. Civility may be cute to you, but I'll be honest and say I'd love to kill radical muzzies just as much as I'd love to kill idiots like you who empower radical terrorist groups. You're still a fucking scumbag, no matter how much you try to deflect the point onto Muslims.
Do you think a country full of white boys chanting "Trump!" and "Wall!" and "No Muslims!" is sustainable, and will help the relationship between America and Islam? You're the problem, buddy boy, not the solution.
.MASSHOLE.I'll believe it when I see it then.
Until then, you have zero credibility with that statement.
Gods_FatherThat's fine, don't need credibility on an Internet forum, just trying to teach you something but you seem too dumb to find the information without help.
.MASSHOLE.Or you're lying and are afraid to prove you're not. The burden of proof is on you here since you are making the claim it is fake.
TheHamburglarDeflection at it's finest, right here.
1. I criticized you for oversimplifying complicated issues into having only two sides (presumably conservative and liberal), and for making generalized claims about entire groups of people.
What is your response? Literally "You're too liberal to see the big picture," followed by "All Muslims are evil," then a history lesson on Sharia Law (which is common knowledge already.)
2. I was criticizing YOU, and your narcissistic unwillingness to recognize the validity of any argument that goes against your views. You and Trump share this trait, and this is the main reason why the rest of the world is laughing at us. Your deflecting response is hilariously born out of nowhere, but not surprising. Just proving my point further.
I have never defended Islam at any point, in fact, I believe all organized religion is a detriment to our society and progressivism in general. But there are other options to the refugee/immigrant solution other than "all or none." It seems like you're insinuating that letting more Muslims into our country will cause Sharia to be instilled. That's simply not true. You're fear-mongering.
3. You say that Sharia law is a disease. You know what else is a disease? Narcissism. Closed-minded people like you, unwilling to acknowledge dissenting opinions. Civility may be cute to you, but I'll be honest and say I'd love to kill radical muzzies just as much as I'd love to kill idiots like you who empower radical terrorist groups. You're still a fucking scumbag, no matter how much you try to deflect the point onto Muslims.
Do you think a country full of white boys chanting "Trump!" and "Wall!" and "No Muslims!" is sustainable, and will help the relationship between America and Islam? You're the problem, buddy boy, not the solution.
.MASSHOLE.An ethical journalist is one who is objective and impartial. This does not in any way, shape, or form mean that journalists must give equal credence or coverage to all statements and all comers.
californiagrownThe times article quotes a legit source. The source said his comments were misinterpreted.
How is the subject of the article fraudulent?
Bad editing/writing doesn't mean it's fake news, champ. It just means it's shitty editing/writing.
RudyGarmischI have never met any liberal lefties lining up and outrightly defending sharia tenants.
CampeadorYou have no argument, just an understanding of events based in fantasy. I suppose your brain is so fried you can hardly tell the difference between reality and fantasy anymore.
TheHamburglarHamtramck, the town that was destined for 3rd-worldliness like the rest of Detroit before those pesky Muslims came in and fixed infrastructure, creating jobs and a stronger local economy. Tell me more about how that Muslim majority city council implemented Sharia Law, please!
CampeadorMore lies, it seems to be the only way you can cope.
HAMTRAMCK, MI -- It's a few minutes after 6 a.m. in Hamtramck and loudspeakers attached to a building once part of the American Axle auto plant begin bellowing the Islamic call to prayer.
Gone is the factory and its blue-collar workforce. An Islamic Center takes its place.
Some residents complained about the call to prayer being played too loud and too early at a City Council meeting as recently as last month.
The mayor says they are a minority and most people have accepted the religious calling as a part of life in Hamtramck and hardly notice it anymore.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2015/11/washington_post_hamtramck_resi.html
It's the same colonization that has been observed countless times throughout Europe. The MO of the islamic hijra does not vary much, and useful idiots like you encourage it.
I'm still waiting for any evidence you can dig up that muslim importation does not lead to increases in sharia law. Seems like the only one peddling idiocy here is you, making claims that you cannot back up in the slightest.
Also, I'll ask it again, since it seems to have flown over that empty space between your ears, do you deny that the leadership positions of the vast majority of muslim organizations are not dominated by militant sharia muslims?
Simple questions really, we'll see how far you'll go to hold on to your make-believe far-Left narratives. Or maybe you'll see the light.
TheHamburglarhttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/05/trump-calls-for-congressional-probe-into-possible-wire-tapping-his-campaign.html
For fucks sake even Fox says there's no evidence regarding wiretapping. All the drugs in the world couldn't create a falser reality than the one Donald Duck is living in.
Gods_FatherA source from something I read many years ago? Not my fault you fail at using search engines.
LonelyYa know , I actually agree with some of the things you have said, but I hate the way that everyone has started to fall down to this level. The whole making a claim without any evidence and then telling the other person to go find it. It's why we can't have nice things (or civil discussions).
I mean really, it's called having a stance on any topic 101. You have a stance or make a claim, and you back it up with something that supports it. Even if that support is biased at least support it. I get that it's an internet forum and all but it's happening everywhere.
But while we're at it donald trump is a lizard person and the earth is flat.
CampeadorNo evidence? It'll most likely turn out Trump was correct.
TheHamburglarWell, we'll see. There's still zero hard evidence. Not that it matters, Trump's administration is looking more incompetent every tweet.
Also, I discovered that there are plenty of anti-Muslim extremists like you peddling misinformation. Here's a sweet "journalist's field guide" to the ultra-conservative freaks you look up to and the blatant racism they spout. The gist of it is; not all Muslims are evil, and while they aren't speaking out against evil within their culture, your exaggerated lies aren't doing anybody any good. Maybe some food for thought.
https://www.splcenter.org/20161025/journalists-manual-field-guide-anti-muslim-extremists
TripleXLHoodiesFor anyone still heated on muslim issues, I would recommend this book to provide a new perspective on the issue. It is called Infidel and is by a muslim woman who talks about her experience with the muslim faith.
TheHamburglarhttps://www.splcenter.org/20161025/journalists-manual-field-guide-anti-muslim-extremists
CampeadorAyaan Hirsi Ali is the author.
She's an anti-muslim extremist, according to the SPLC.
How dare you listen to her.
CampeadorAyaan Hirsi Ali is the author.
She's an anti-muslim extremist, according to the SPLC.
How dare you listen to her.
TripleXLHoodiesShe has the right to be anti muslim given that she grew up in a muslim household, we have no idea what it is like
CampeadorYou're supporting hate speech against muslims.
TripleXLHoodiesif that is how you view me sharing the other side of this argument, then I suppose so, but I see it as a very legitimate case against certain beliefs and traditions within the muslim faith, not the religion as a whole, people should be able to believe what they want. I highly doubt you have any sort of degree to be making claims that there is nothing wrong with the religion, because all religions have flaws, islam is no different
.MASSHOLE.Wooosh.....
He is the most anti-Islam poster on this site.
TripleXLHoodiesI see it as a very legitimate case against certain beliefs and traditions within the muslim faith
doublecupRegardless of who is in office or what political party they are from, you need to support your President
