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.MASSHOLE.And he continues to post pictures as if to prove a point, again incapable of any sort of critical thinking or ability to form an argument.
.MASSHOLE.He decries fake news, but posts it himself. Seems like he can't differentiate between the real world and fantasy.
CampeadorHahahah!
You are honestly just so unbelievably clueless and dumb.
You just posted an article that further confirms what I was saying.
.MASSHOLE.And he neglects to notice he blamed it on Muslims/Islam, but in reality it was youth who were upset that the police managed to somehow, accidentally, have a baton sodomize some poor soul.
.MASSHOLE.Trump at his most recent press conference summed up:
"The leaks are real. Fake news though. "
TheHamburglarYou missed the point he was making? Really? You're so slow it's pathetic.
.MASSHOLE.And again, his generalizations fail. These sure look like Muslims to me.
LonelyPolitical threads on ns is kindve like measuring time with radioactive decay.
How long does it take until the thread is toxic and only masshole and camp are posting?
I'm sure this is a measurable trend.
.MASSHOLE.Iran has been our enemy and we have been Iran's enemy since the fall of the Shah. It has little, if anything at all, to do with their discontinuation of using US dollars in international trade or in its official statements. Without going into too much detail, the Shah was overthrown due to financial mismanagement by the government, a movement away from Shiism, and general malcontent over the economic situation within the country. Who came to power after? A strong anti-Shah (therefore anti-American) party lead by Ayatollah Khomeini which later lead to the Iran Hostage Crisis. The Crisis was the first time Americans levied sanctions against Iran, and since then they have only increased.
The belief about Gaddafi's death being influenced by NATO/US desires to prevent a gold dinar aren't rooted in strong evidence nor is it practical. The rumors started with Syd Blumenthal's emails to Clinton, but the conspiracy neglects to acknowledge the rest of the emails included information that was questionable in terms of accuracy and reliability of the sources. Some of the other emails from Blumenthal suggested that Libyan elites were warming to Israeli interactions, "like Israel never interacts with other countries" European spy agencies wanted tribal leaders to declare a semi-autonomous tribal zone in the eastern half of the country, and were always from unnamed sources. Believing Syd Blumenthal's sources isn't a great idea when it comes to foreign relations.
Now, that is not to say France didn't have strategic interests in N. Africa. They obviously did and still do. But the prospect of a gold-backed pan-African currency threatening the French Franc (not the dollar) is foolish. Gold-backed currencies don't work in the modern day for a variety of reasons. One just has to look at the history of the Gold Standard to see how many issues came about due to it's presence. Also, the reported $7b in Gold and Silver is hardly enough for a single country, let alone an entire region.
Seth Rich's dad would like a word with you.
Intelligence agencies have confirmed that Russia was able to access the DNC as well as limited access to RNC systems. Yes, the contents of the DNC emails were damaging and certainly mattered. But if the Russians did have RNC-related information and failed to release it, that matters just as much.
You can't have it both ways. You can't say withholding information is bad (a-la Clinton emails) but it is also OK and has no material impact (RNC
.MASSHOLE.Last paragraph got cut off.
I meant to say (RNC-related emails). Withholding damaging information is just as powerful as releasing it.
.MASSHOLE.If we want to look at current day dictators, you've got Jong-un, Assad, al-Bashir, and Mbsago. Of those 4, only 1 is currently and actively using military forces against civilian protesters. al-Bashir has been accused of war crimes for the War in Darfur, but that too saw foreign powers, in this case the African Union and United Nations, intervene with a peacekeeping mission.
fuckmekevinI wholeheartedly agree with most of your first paragraph, however I do think you're downplaying the currency change, which is set to impact all official financial and foreign exchange reports. There's been a 90%+ devaluation of the dollar since the implementation of the federal Reserve. Currently, the value of the dollar is legal tender, backed by nothing but the money in the money supply. It is not backed by gold or precious metals. Have we forgotten that good old Kissinger made a deal with the Saudi monarchy to utilize U.S. dollars exclusively for the country’s oil transactions. This was a fair deal and would generate demand, be it artificial for the dollar, and hence value. Iran being part of OPEC, ensured dollar dominance and thus value. This drives the economic hegemony. The United States is not going to passively allow oil-producing countries to exit the petrodollar system. Iran holds an estimate of 13 percent of OPEC’s oil reserves, switching currencies could affect global demand for dollars, plus recent quantitative easing doesn't help with the value of the dollar either. Hence, Sanctions will be applied and the war drums and propaganda campaigns will ensue. I'm going to make it clear that war with Iran either overt or covert is inevitable. Bannon even mentioned that China might get involved, saying that war in the South China sea will happen in the future. We also have both Liberal and conservative think tanks talking about ways to provoke Iran and or sink Iranian submarines, 'sarcastically' of course.
It's well known that Libya's Gaddafi was extremely distasteful of the petrodollar system, he also has a political history of being anti-imperialist, hence he established the dinar, which was gold-backed currency and Libya’s currency for oil transactions. Keep in mind Mandela though Gaddafi had good intentions when it came to ridding of western imperialism throughout Africa. He planned to make the dinar a pan-African currency which would undoubtedly empower African nations, possibly economically. This was a GREAT threat to the US economic hegemony as well as many other superpowers around the world. So in 2011, the U.S. funneled weapons into the hands of radical extremists, bombed and destroyed the Libyan state as well as parts of the Great Man Made River, causing severe dehydration and death.
Eventually, armed racialists killed Gadhafi, preventing this deal from coming to fruition. The US likes to claim that his own people killed him but this isn't the case and the video of his death makes it clear. If the emails you claim shouldn't be trusted are false than why was Gaddafi assassinated and his country destroyed? Was it merely a grassroots protest that led to civil chaos?
Whatever you want to say about Gaddafi, it's never black and white.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0smTCyTuL8
Arming the opposition in Libya led to the ethnic cleansing of thousands of black Christians, is that okay with you? A desire to gain a greater share of Libya oil production was a legitimate goal and looking at the deals and financial transactions after overthrowing Gaddafi, it becomes clear that it was, again, like Syria, mostly a geopolitical war based on economics, resources and profit margins.
And regarding France, what is the percentage of banking and monetary infrastructure they own in Africa? Don't many of the countries have to open up to bids with French contractors first, France keeping the majority exchange reserves, they have to sell exports to France first at an extreme discount, their natural resources get to be bid on by France first, and more. France obviously has interest in Libya and watched Qaddafi very closely. You haven't debunked this geopolitical agenda, considering the person who claimed the intelligence wasn't good worked for the french government, Patrick Haimzadeh. It is however, unsubstantiated and I can get with that. Keep in mind these emails were memos from Tyler Drumheller, a former CIA operative who was looking into a Libya-related business venture. So, this isn't some off the wall theory.
Post one legitimate source that proves Russia hacked the DNC emails. Just one, I've read the CIA intelligence report on Russian hacking and there's zero proof just hearsay. Seth Rich was assassinated and the media claimed it was a robbery but the fact of the matter is nothing was stolen, not even his wallet. If you look into how the emails surfaced, you would realize it was a leak not a hack from Russian intelligence. DNC insiders leaked the Clinton and the Podesta Emails, both having incriminating stuff in them. Also, the intelligence agencies tell the truth all the time, especially when they can not provide proof for their claims and use hearsay as a means to push radical agendas.
fuckmekevinLike I've mentioned it's not that black and white. The people I've talked to online in Aleppo and the many Christians who have been beheaded by the so called 'moderate rebels', which I should mention never really existed and the state department even stated under oath that little rebel opposition remains. Instead, the weapons funneled into Syria by Saudi Arabia and Qatar who we support and fund and give arms to prolonged the suffering and chaos, which was their goal! The Syrian Army has bombed civilians living in rebel occupied territory, this includes Daesh areas as well but that's a given, the US would do the same if China funded an opposition group in the US. Casualties would occur. Still the fact remains that the majority of people living in Syria support Assad and not the radical opposition who wants to impose a caliphate. These are terrorists factions, mercenaries with radical religious ideologies. Ousting Assad would be a costly mistake for the stability of Syria, which has been basically destabilized at least in the south and north eastern portions due in part to foreign backing of terrorists. This has everything to do with geopolitics. Look at the news regarding Aleppo. Aleppo HAS FALLEN, ASSAD TARGETING ALL CIVILIANS. The news never shows the aftermath because Aleppo was liberated from extremists. People could finally celebrate Christmas after the Syrian Army took back Aleppo and as of right now it remains exponentially more stable than it did when the rebels occupied it. Assad even gave a lenient amount of time for all civilians and even REBELS to leave Aleppo before the Syrian Army came. It becomes clear that the US wanted to go to war with Syria. Obama and mainstream news outlets pumped the 'red line' theory that Assad utilized Sarin gas on his own people. Except, he didn't. Carla Del Ponte, UN Investigator and Inspector concluded that it was in fact the Syrian rebels that orchestrated the attack and not Assad. So this was basically the ostensible pretext to go to war? A lie?
For all that is going on in Syria, why doesn't news talk about the Yemeni funeral bombing by the Saudi's? I guess that's just a blip on the radar.
fuckmekevinThat I can agree with.
CampeadorYou could always just stick to the interesting ones about getting the weed smell out of cars.
.MASSHOLE.You're neglecting a key aspect of currency, stability. The dollar doesn't need to be backed by anything except the promise of the US government to repay their debts.
The reason the US dollar has been the international trade currency isn't due to oil or anything else, it is due to the fact that post-WWII they were the first country to rebound and provide a stable and liquid currency. As a result, countries looking to do international business could swap their currencies at a constant rate without fear of rapid fluctuations in value.
Oil has very little, if anything, to do with the value of the dollar. International trade will use the dollar, Euro, and more recently, Chinese yuan because they are all liquid and relatively stable (yuan less so). Going to war with Iran over currency reasons is about as likely as Hillary Clinton ever becoming president.
The uprising of the Libyans has so much more to do with their economic and social conditions, not the desire for a pan-African dollar. I've already explained the history of the Libyan civil war and why there was military intervention.
Again, you're feeding into the conspiracy of this whole event without actually providing evidence. The Pan-African dinar deal would never have worked with a gold standard system. Ever. And if they had managed to create one, it would have been so easily devalued by other countries if they so desired. Gold standards are worthless without GLOBAL cooperation.
Of course there are geopolitical reassons that come into play with war, there always are. But to say that it was some oil-driven event is foolish. Oil exports from Libya have been stagnant since his death because of the civil war. I've already explained why NATO got involved in another post, I'm not going to write it again.
You're claiming the French banking and monetary structure played a role but again you neglect to mention that the CFA franc is pegged to the Euro, rendering the French influence somewhat worthless. Not to mention it didn't even involve Northern African nations, just Western and Central. You've also seen countries join and leave this monetary system at their own free will.
The relationship between France and African nations is not out of the norm. France provides stability in the form of military, economic, and political aid while the African nations provide goods that France needs. This isn't France holding a gun to their heads, if anything, these countries could hold a gun to France's head.
Again, the intelligence to me is doubtful. We, meaning you and I, have no idea whether or not Drumheller was on the ground or if he was receiving information from personal sources. If it is the latter, that calls it into question for me. A single source isn't always reliable.
Post one legitimate article saying it wasn't Russia, backed by facts. You won't find one just like I won't find one. But when almost every single intelligence agency backs this up, and a Congressional investigation is ongoing, there certainly is a lot of smoke around it.
Seth Rich's parents say otherwise. I'm going to believe them over the media. If they did believe their son was murdered, they'd be all over it. No parent is going to choose party over child (except maybe Clinton).
The emails surfaced in a way that was most damaging to the DNC. It was released in a manner that targeted and hurt the Clinton campaign at opportune times. Look at the timing of those releases and Trump controversies.
I'm not one to buy into conspiracies (if you haven't noticed), but this twitter account has given some amazing insight (and its rather bipartisan)
You're also seeing a rise of similar events in France, Netherlands, and Germany, all of whom have elections in the near future. It isn't a coincidence.
.MASSHOLE.You're neglecting a key aspect of currency, stability. The dollar doesn't need to be backed by anything except the promise of the US government to repay their debts.
The reason the US dollar has been the international trade currency isn't due to oil or anything else, it is due to the fact that post-WWII they were the first country to rebound and provide a stable and liquid currency. As a result, countries looking to do international business could swap their currencies at a constant rate without fear of rapid fluctuations in value.
Oil has very little, if anything, to do with the value of the dollar. International trade will use the dollar, Euro, and more recently, Chinese yuan because they are all liquid and relatively stable (yuan less so). Going to war with Iran over currency reasons is about as likely as Hillary Clinton ever becoming president.
The uprising of the Libyans has so much more to do with their economic and social conditions, not the desire for a pan-African dollar. I've already explained the history of the Libyan civil war and why there was military intervention.
Again, you're feeding into the conspiracy of this whole event without actually providing evidence. The Pan-African dinar deal would never have worked with a gold standard system. Ever. And if they had managed to create one, it would have been so easily devalued by other countries if they so desired. Gold standards are worthless without GLOBAL cooperation.
Of course there are geopolitical reassons that come into play with war, there always are. But to say that it was some oil-driven event is foolish. Oil exports from Libya have been stagnant since his death because of the civil war. I've already explained why NATO got involved in another post, I'm not going to write it again.
You're claiming the French banking and monetary structure played a role but again you neglect to mention that the CFA franc is pegged to the Euro, rendering the French influence somewhat worthless. Not to mention it didn't even involve Northern African nations, just Western and Central. You've also seen countries join and leave this monetary system at their own free will.
The relationship between France and African nations is not out of the norm. France provides stability in the form of military, economic, and political aid while the African nations provide goods that France needs. This isn't France holding a gun to their heads, if anything, these countries could hold a gun to France's head.
Again, the intelligence to me is doubtful. We, meaning you and I, have no idea whether or not Drumheller was on the ground or if he was receiving information from personal sources. If it is the latter, that calls it into question for me. A single source isn't always reliable.
Post one legitimate article saying it wasn't Russia, backed by facts. You won't find one just like I won't find one. But when almost every single intelligence agency backs this up, and a Congressional investigation is ongoing, there certainly is a lot of smoke around it.
Seth Rich's parents say otherwise. I'm going to believe them over the media. If they did believe their son was murdered, they'd be all over it. No parent is going to choose party over child (except maybe Clinton).
The emails surfaced in a way that was most damaging to the DNC. It was released in a manner that targeted and hurt the Clinton campaign at opportune times. Look at the timing of those releases and Trump controversies.
I'm not one to buy into conspiracies (if you haven't noticed), but this twitter account has given some amazing insight (and its rather bipartisan)
You're also seeing a rise of similar events in France, Netherlands, and Germany, all of whom have elections in the near future. It isn't a coincidence.
.MASSHOLE.You're neglecting a key aspect of currency, stability. The dollar doesn't need to be backed by anything except the promise of the US government to repay their debts.
.MASSHOLE.The reason the US dollar has been the international trade currency isn't due to oil or anything else, it is due to the fact that post-WWII they were the first country to rebound and provide a stable and liquid currency. As a result, countries looking to do international business could swap their currencies at a constant rate without fear of rapid fluctuations in value.
Oil has very little, if anything, to do with the value of the dollar. International trade will use the dollar, Euro, and more recently, Chinese yuan because they are all liquid and relatively stable (yuan less so). Going to war with Iran over currency reasons is about as likely as Hillary Clinton ever becoming president.
The uprising of the Libyans has so much more to do with their economic and social conditions, not the desire for a pan-African dollar. I've already explained the history of the Libyan civil war and why there was military intervention.
Again, you're feeding into the conspiracy of this whole event without actually providing evidence. The Pan-African dinar deal would never have worked with a gold standard system. Ever. And if they had managed to create one, it would have been so easily devalued by other countries if they so desired. Gold standards are worthless without GLOBAL cooperation.
Of course there are geopolitical reassons that come into play with war, there always are. But to say that it was some oil-driven event is foolish. Oil exports from Libya have been stagnant since his death because of the civil war. I've already explained why NATO got involved in another post, I'm not going to write it again.
You're claiming the French banking and monetary structure played a role but again you neglect to mention that the CFA franc is pegged to the Euro, rendering the French influence somewhat worthless. Not to mention it didn't even involve Northern African nations, just Western and Central. You've also seen countries join and leave this monetary system at their own free will.
The relationship between France and African nations is not out of the norm. France provides stability in the form of military, economic, and political aid while the African nations provide goods that France needs. This isn't France holding a gun to their heads, if anything, these countries could hold a gun to France's head.
Again, the intelligence to me is doubtful. We, meaning you and I, have no idea whether or not Drumheller was on the ground or if he was receiving information from personal sources. If it is the latter, that calls it into question for me. A single source isn't always reliable.
Post one legitimate article saying it wasn't Russia, backed by facts. You won't find one just like I won't find one. But when almost every single intelligence agency backs this up, and a Congressional investigation is ongoing, there certainly is a lot of smoke around it.
Seth Rich's parents say otherwise. I'm going to believe them over the media. If they did believe their son was murdered, they'd be all over it. No parent is going to choose party over child (except maybe Clinton).
The emails surfaced in a way that was most damaging to the DNC. It was released in a manner that targeted and hurt the Clinton campaign at opportune times. Look at the timing of those releases and Trump controversies.
I'm not one to buy into conspiracies (if you haven't noticed), but this twitter account has given some amazing insight (and its rather bipartisan)
You're also seeing a rise of similar events in France, Netherlands, and Germany, all of whom have elections in the near future. It isn't a coincidence.
.MASSHOLE.You're neglecting a key aspect of currency, stability. The dollar doesn't need to be backed by anything except the promise of the US government to repay their debts.
The reason the US dollar has been the international trade currency isn't due to oil or anything else, it is due to the fact that post-WWII they were the first country to rebound and provide a stable and liquid currency. As a result, countries looking to do international business could swap their currencies at a constant rate without fear of rapid fluctuations in value.
Oil has very little, if anything, to do with the value of the dollar. International trade will use the dollar, Euro, and more recently, Chinese yuan because they are all liquid and relatively stable (yuan less so). Going to war with Iran over currency reasons is about as likely as Hillary Clinton ever becoming president.
The uprising of the Libyans has so much more to do with their economic and social conditions, not the desire for a pan-African dollar. I've already explained the history of the Libyan civil war and why there was military intervention.
Again, you're feeding into the conspiracy of this whole event without actually providing evidence. The Pan-African dinar deal would never have worked with a gold standard system. Ever. And if they had managed to create one, it would have been so easily devalued by other countries if they so desired. Gold standards are worthless without GLOBAL cooperation.
Of course there are geopolitical reassons that come into play with war, there always are. But to say that it was some oil-driven event is foolish. Oil exports from Libya have been stagnant since his death because of the civil war. I've already explained why NATO got involved in another post, I'm not going to write it again.
You're claiming the French banking and monetary structure played a role but again you neglect to mention that the CFA franc is pegged to the Euro, rendering the French influence somewhat worthless. Not to mention it didn't even involve Northern African nations, just Western and Central. You've also seen countries join and leave this monetary system at their own free will.
The relationship between France and African nations is not out of the norm. France provides stability in the form of military, economic, and political aid while the African nations provide goods that France needs. This isn't France holding a gun to their heads, if anything, these countries could hold a gun to France's head.
Again, the intelligence to me is doubtful. We, meaning you and I, have no idea whether or not Drumheller was on the ground or if he was receiving information from personal sources. If it is the latter, that calls it into question for me. A single source isn't always reliable.
Post one legitimate article saying it wasn't Russia, backed by facts. You won't find one just like I won't find one. But when almost every single intelligence agency backs this up, and a Congressional investigation is ongoing, there certainly is a lot of smoke around it.
Seth Rich's parents say otherwise. I'm going to believe them over the media. If they did believe their son was murdered, they'd be all over it. No parent is going to choose party over child (except maybe Clinton).
The emails surfaced in a way that was most damaging to the DNC. It was released in a manner that targeted and hurt the Clinton campaign at opportune times. Look at the timing of those releases and Trump controversies.
I'm not one to buy into conspiracies (if you haven't noticed), but this twitter account has given some amazing insight (and its rather bipartisan)
You're also seeing a rise of similar events in France, Netherlands, and Germany, all of whom have elections in the near future. It isn't a coincidence.
.MASSHOLE.You're preaching to the choir about funding Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It's idiotic. Saudi Arabia is singlehandedly responsible for the rise of radical Wahhabi Islam.
.MASSHOLE.Tribal relations and religions rule in that part of the world. But eventually, like everywhere else in the world, the UN/NATO/coalition forces will step in if governmental forces actively begin to target civilians.
Gods_FatherYou know nothing about Libya, buddy. Ever spoken to an intelligent Libyan? I'm guessing no and just get your knowledge of Libya from media.
fuckmekevinAre we not allies with the Saudi's? The Obama administration arms sales to Saudi topped $115 billion, so I think we are complicit because they continue to covertly support (with funds, weapons etc.) global terrorism including ISIS.
The question becomes how many desired change and was it the majority or a small minority. Was it grassroots, yes and was it provoked and propped up by intelligence agencies, possibly. Funneling weapons into Syria obviously doesn't help.
.MASSHOLE.I've also spoken with a professor whose PhD came in Islamist and Democracy
So, take that for what you will.
.MASSHOLE.I've got a paper I wrote about 3 years ago now on the Gold Standard I can send you later. It's got some good sources you can read as well as insight on its history and why it ultimately didn't work.
joeybootsur paper is probably horseshit
LonelyI'm sorry that my observation triggered you
.MASSHOLE.And of course his masterful insight tells us it was a bad choice yet fails to explain why.
Classic.
.MASSHOLE.Islamism and Democracy is what I meant.
CampeadorWhat happens when leftists attempt to co-opt words or terms they don't understand.
You're all quite good at that.
.MASSHOLE.Well, he fails to figure out that political science doctorates can focus in on specific topics. Guess Community College forgot to mention that.
