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Extremism in America

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BravoWhiskey5280
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The definition of extremists is "A person who advocates or resorts to measures beyond the norm, especially in politics."

Things beyond the norm:
Giving Iran the nuclear bomb, beyond the norm.
Gay marriage, beyond the norm. Allowing Illegal immigration, beyond the norm. Apologizing for saying "all I was matter, beyond the norm."
Selling of fetus organs, beyond the norm.
A $15 minimum wage, beyond the norm.
Support in a socialist candidate, beyond the norm.
Having our 1st Amendment rights infringed upon, beyond the norm.
A new Cold War, beyond the modern norm. Restriction of Christian beliefs in the United States of America, beyond the norm.
Calling people racist for saying that the United States of America is at war with islamic extremism, beyond the norm.

The defenotion of a norm is, "something thing that is usual, typical, or standard." The first five norms I've I listed all changed just in this last month. All these norms can be traced back to being something topical, usual, or standard throughout the course of the last 100 years here in America.

You might feel like you're "fundamentally changing America." But the ONE norm you extremists can never touch is the one thing that's keeping you from controlling everything. The right to bear arms.
Jul 22 2015 10:20PM
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CHORIZO
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-the depth of op's anus -beyond the norm
Jul 22 2015 10:24PM
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DirtYStylE
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Chill bro. Society has evolved a bit since you left society to go live under a rock. Get used to it
Jul 22 2015 10:27PM
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CHORIZO
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On a more serious side than uranus, people thought it was fucking crazy letting slaves free and allowing women to vote. Maybe you should blame every single president that allowed some sort of change in america, cuz without them straight white males would still rule the world. Jk we still do
Jul 22 2015 10:27PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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It doesn't make any sense why progressives label the conservatives as the extremist. You guys don't even know the definition of the words you using to make your argument. Being progressive, means You want to progress from the norm. It doesn't make sense and goes against the definitions of the word extremism when you progressives along with your president are always saying the talking about conservative extremism. If you actually knew the definition on the words you're using then you see that conservatism by definition is the complete opposite of the definition of extremist. Conservatism tries to conserve the social norm. That's why the word has conserve in it, and not extreme.
Jul 22 2015 10:27PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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No you are so wrong. It literally has transformed faster in the past 3 months and it has since the Civil Rights Movement. So we have been selling human fetuses for how long? How long has gay marriage been federally legal?
Jul 22 2015 10:31PM
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CHORIZO
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BravoWhiskey5280It doesn't make any sense why progressives label the conservatives as the extremist. You guys don't even know the definition of the words you using to make your argument. Being progressive, means You want to progress from the norm. It doesn't make sense and goes against the definitions of the word extremism when you progressives along with your president are always saying the talking about conservative extremism. If you actually knew the definition on the words you're using then you see that conservatism by definition is the complete opposite of the definition of extremist. Conservatism tries to conserve the social norm. That's why the word has conserve in it, and not extreme.


Im gonnq be honest, I dont really know what this thread is abo anyways. I just read the first couple sentences and thought you were complaining about all this change and shit
Jul 22 2015 10:31PM
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bangarangmules
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So let me get this clear. You think that it is extremist to allow two consenting adults to marry one another?


I understand that this goes beyond some people's beliefs, but extremism? Come on man, get a grip.
Jul 22 2015 10:34PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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It's a change in the norm from what it used to be there's no denying that. Basically what I'm trying to say is that conservatives are f****** over progresses today. If we don't want to legal immigrants in this country where racist, if we don't believe in gay marriage we're bigots, if we say all live matter then we're forced to apologize for it. If we say that we demand you stop giving money to these black freeloaders that are littering our nation then we're racist. That we have to feel privileged if we're white. Don't you f****** get it, we're over it. And if you continue it, then we're going to f*** your ass up.
Jul 22 2015 11:34PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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I've honestly never felt more discriminated upon in my entire life. Our government has made it so that the white male is the least deserving of everything. I'm tired of placing emphasis on minorities and gays. For crying out loud, we are funding an organization and Planned Parenthood with billions of dollars and they are deliberately silly human fetuses for a profit. Beyond the fact that its one of the most f***** up things I've ever heard of, Planned Parenthood legally isn't allowed to sell jack s*** because they're a non-profit organization. But since the last doesn't hold their own accountable whatsoever for when they break the law, nothing will happen. If they won't nake it happen, then we will. Whether you believe it or not, but shits going to get f***** up.
Jul 22 2015 11:44PM
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DirtYStylE
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Inb4 OP takes a shotgun into planned parenthood
Jul 22 2015 11:48PM
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CHORIZO
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BravoWhiskey5280I've honestly never felt more discriminated upon in my entire life. Our government has made it so that the white male is the least deserving of everything. I'm tired of placing emphasis on minorities and gays. For crying out loud, we are funding an organization and Planned Parenthood with billions of dollars and they are deliberately silly human fetuses for a profit. Beyond the fact that its one of the most f***** up things I've ever heard of, Planned Parenthood legally isn't allowed to sell jack s*** because they're a non-profit organization. But since the last doesn't hold their own accountable whatsoever for when they break the law, nothing will happen. If they won't nake it happen, then we will. Whether you believe it or not, but shits going to get f***** up.


Im not super sure about the "selling" of fetus since i have not looked into it further than that youtube video and the news. have you researched this further?
Jul 22 2015 11:48PM
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Lonely
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Op is still butthurt from when he got "profiled".

Grow the fuck up. The world changes and most of what you talked about doesn't effect you.

How the fuck "do you feel more discriminated than ever"?

"All these dumb black freeloaders" "I'm not racist tho"

Lolz

Fingers crossed that it's a troll

Sadly it's prolly not
Jul 23 2015 12:55AM
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CashmereCat
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So let's say this was and hundred and fifty some odd years ago, would you be against emancipation just because it's the "norm"? Sometimes change is good.
Jul 23 2015 12:57AM
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Lonely
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CashmereCatSo let's say this was and hundred and fifty some odd years ago, would you be against emancipation just because it's the "norm"? Sometimes change is good.


Yes. Those where the golden days where Op wasn't discriminated against.
Jul 23 2015 12:59AM
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Bensun
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BravoWhiskey5280I've honestly never felt more discriminated upon in my entire life. Our government has made it so that the white male is the least deserving of everything. I'm tired of placing emphasis on minorities and gays. For crying out loud, we are funding an organization and Planned Parenthood with billions of dollars and they are deliberately silly human fetuses for a profit. Beyond the fact that its one of the most f***** up things I've ever heard of, Planned Parenthood legally isn't allowed to sell jack s*** because they're a non-profit organization. But since the last doesn't hold their own accountable whatsoever for when they break the law, nothing will happen. If they won't nake it happen, then we will. Whether you believe it or not, but shits going to get f***** up.



Too much bath salts and Fox News?
Jul 23 2015 2:49AM
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Bensun
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I don't know why I am responding to this pile of shit but... Op just because society frowns open YOUR views does not mean that white males are being oppressed... Or that
Jul 23 2015 2:53AM
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eheath
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Jul 23 2015 2:54AM
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Bensun
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Any of what you say is actually happening because I'm almost positive planned parent hood doesn't sell fetuses and we actually signed an agreement with Iran that forces them to dispose of all the uranium that could be used in any warheads or plants that create it
Jul 23 2015 2:57AM
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onenerdykid
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BravoWhiskey5280You guys don't even know the definition of the words you using to make your argument. Being progressive, means You want to progress from the norm. It doesn't make sense and goes against the definitions of the word extremism when you progressives along with your president are always saying the talking about conservative extremism. If you actually knew the definition on the words you're using then you see that conservatism by definition is the complete opposite of the definition of extremist. Conservatism tries to conserve the social norm. That's why the word has conserve in it, and not extreme.


You are the one who clearly doesn't understand the words you are using.

For starters, in your OP, this is what your definition actually says: extremism is the action in response to another action that goes beyond the accepted level of response.

Most of the things you list are not responses to an action. They are actions themselves with which you disagree (which is fine, you are just mistaken in referring to them "extremism").

Secondly, you can have an extreme conservatism. If a conservative's response to a situation goes beyond the accepted level of response, it can be considered extreme. For example, there are many militant Islamists that do not want things to change and are fighting to preserve a certain way of life. They would be considered extreme conservationists.
Jul 23 2015 3:42AM
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onenerdykid
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Furthermore, just because it is the norm to do something it does not follow that the norm is morally correct.

It was the norm in the Confederate South to own another human being. Just because it was the norm, it does not follow that owning a human being is morally correct.

It was also the norm in Nazi Germany to persecute Jews. I think you see where I am going with this.

Norms don't tell you what is right and wrong, they simply tell you what that culture has accepted. If that culture is morally corrupt, then so are their norms.

Reacting against those established norms does not immediately constitute "extremism" as you claim it does. Extremism deals with the excessive level of response to a situation, and can therefore be done by all positions within the spectrum.
Jul 23 2015 3:53AM
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PacificRimJob
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BravoWhiskey5280The definition of extremists is "A person who advocates or resorts to measures beyond the norm, especially in politics."

Things beyond the norm:
Giving Iran the nuclear bomb, beyond the norm.
Gay marriage, beyond the norm. Allowing Illegal immigration, beyond the norm. Apologizing for saying "all I was matter, beyond the norm."
Selling of fetus organs, beyond the norm.
A $15 minimum wage, beyond the norm.
Support in a socialist candidate, beyond the norm.
Having our 1st Amendment rights infringed upon, beyond the norm.
A new Cold War, beyond the modern norm. Restriction of Christian beliefs in the United States of America, beyond the norm.
Calling people racist for saying that the United States of America is at war with islamic extremism, beyond the norm.

The defenotion of a norm is, "something thing that is usual, typical, or standard." The first five norms I've I listed all changed just in this last month. All these norms can be traced back to being something topical, usual, or standard throughout the course of the last 100 years here in America.

You might feel like you're "fundamentally changing America." But the ONE norm you extremists can never touch is the one thing that's keeping you from controlling everything. The right to bear arms.


Lets dissect.

1. Who gave Iran nukes? I know a president who gave them weapons though...

2. Gay Marriage has been the norm in many other western countries for like a decade, bruh. Shits normal.

3. Allowing Illegal immigration? Before the last 10-15 years, we just called it Immigration... As for amnesty... what do you think we should do? round up the mexicans Red Dawn style, build a giant slide and dump them into Mexicali and Juarez? lol...

4. Fetus organ selling? What the fuck? please link me to this onion article lol...

5. back when 5.25 was the federal minimum wage, adjusted for inflation, in the 60's, that would be over 10$ nationally... 15$ for NYC? that's not that much with how expensive cost of living is.

6. Supporting a socialist candidate? FDR was elected 4 times... sooo

7. First amendment rights are infringed upon constantly buddy haha. That's SUPER normal.

8. New cold war? Between who? Us and China? us and Russia? Neither of those ever really ended in reality...

9. Restriction of Christian beliefs? Those don't exist anywhere in this country... Only the restriction of Forced christian influence - there's a difference. Nobody's shutting down churches besides the far right racist whackos who set them on fire or shoot them up.

10. pretty sure nobody's calling anyone racist simply for saying the USA is at war with Islamic Extremism...



As for that right to bear arms... that's not really making any difference in anything, guy. Lol. You've watched too much fox news recently.
Jul 23 2015 5:26AM
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deleted5
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BravoWhiskey5280. But since the last doesn't hold their own accountable whatsoever for when they break the law, nothing will happen. If they won't nake it happen, then we will. Whether you believe it or not, but shits going to get f***** up.


When has a church ever been accountable for killing and shunning scientists starting a holy crusade and killing millions, illegally spending non-profit donation or raping little children?
Jul 23 2015 7:25AM
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.Hugo.
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You wanna know whats really extreme? The sex positions your mother knows. Seriously that shit should be in the xgames
Jul 23 2015 8:28AM
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ndye
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DingoSeanLol. You've watched too much fox news recently.


This a million times over. I watch Fox with my grandparents from time to time, and it is horrific the tsunami of misinformation being spread there. Scare tactics to isolate and rally dedicated viewers. Which if you refer to the OP is clearly working.
Jul 23 2015 8:43AM
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Bogs
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Good troll, bro, good troll
Jul 23 2015 9:03AM
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bangarangmules
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What if progressive reforms are really just trying to catch us up with the norms of the rest of the world's countries? That would make you an extremist by your standards.
Jul 23 2015 9:38AM
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CheddarJack
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Let me put it this way, OP. If everyone in the country was as conservative as you, our country would have gone down the shitter years and years ago.

BUT. At the same time, if everyone in this country was as liberal as you are conservative, our country would have gone down the shitter years and years ago.

The reason why we have the two sides is because most every issue can be viewed from two sides. The liberal will say "hey, this isn't right. It needs changing!" The conservative will say "Now hold up, changing this will change a lot. I don't want that." Or, "No, it's perfectly fine the way it is now." Or it can even be the other way around if the conservative feels something is too liberal.

IDEALLY, it will all balance out and the country will be the best it can. It's not perfect and never will be, so people will always want things to change.

Obviously it isn't easy and generally isn't a way to be 100% positive that change is better or worse (or what the change should be), so clearly it gets really messy.
Jul 23 2015 9:59AM
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Charlie_Kelly
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Do conservatives enjoy making themselves look stupid? Is that their thing?
Jul 24 2015 10:29AM
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S.J.W
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ANUSTARTIm not super sure about the "selling" of fetus since i have not looked into it further than that youtube video and the news. have you researched this further?


That video was taken out of context. The 10 to 15 dollar mark was a cost for transporting foetuses. Not selling them. Anyways foetuses are used in a lot of research and help a lot of people.
Jul 24 2015 10:39AM
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onenerdykid
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Granite_StateDo conservatives enjoy making themselves look stupid? Is that their thing?


I think both sides can be equally retarded when trying to articulate their views, but this thread is something special. I hope he comes back.
Jul 24 2015 11:06AM
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ImNotARacist
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YOU WANT TO SEE EXTREMEISM!

Jul 24 2015 11:20AM
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ImNotARacist
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Jul 24 2015 11:21AM
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Jul 24 2015 11:24AM
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onenerdykid
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DlCKYOU WANT TO SEE EXTREMEISM!



Do you think that lady with the "jewskilledJesus.com" shirt knows that Jesus lived his entire life as a Jew?
Jul 24 2015 11:26AM
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ImNotARacist
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onenerdykidDo you think that lady with the "jewskilledJesus.com" shirt knows that Jesus lived his entire life as a Jew?


Shed be absolutely devastated.
Jul 24 2015 11:35AM
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deleted5
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onenerdykidDo you think that lady with the "jewskilledJesus.com" shirt knows that Jesus lived his entire life as a Jew?


The jews did kill jesus, the whole split between the two is they don't belive he was the son of god after they killed him.
Jul 24 2015 12:11PM
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onenerdykid
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nocturnalThe jews did kill jesus, the whole split between the two is they don't belive he was the son of god after they killed him.


Which is also correct, I just doubt she knows much historical fact concerning anything. In my experience, many people think Jesus was a Christian and I would bet dollars to donuts that this bag of crazy does too.
Jul 24 2015 12:20PM
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onenerdykidWhich is also correct, I just doubt she knows much historical fact concerning anything. In my experience, many people think Jesus was a Christian and I would bet dollars to donuts that this bag of crazy does too.


That's because Christianity wasn't invented untill the day after Jesus died..... everybody was Jewish then Jesus came along then Jesus was killed. Some people believe he was the son of God (Christians) others people didn't believe it (jews) because it had something to do with a curtain not being ripped. Jesus couldn't be Christian because Christianity was invented until he died.
Jul 24 2015 2:26PM
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qazwsxedc34
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Good thing 94% of domestic terrorists in the US are created by the FBI
Jul 25 2015 12:46PM
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onenerdykid
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CONAIR_BUSCEMIGood thing 94% of domestic terrorists in the US are created by the FBI


Good thing you gave a source to back up that incredibly ludicrous sounding claim.
Jul 25 2015 1:01PM
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ImNotARacist
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Jul 25 2015 1:29PM
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qazwsxedc34
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onenerdykidGood thing you gave a source to back up that incredibly ludicrous sounding claim.


Inventing Terrorists is a study compiled by Project SALAM and the NCPCF using data supplied by the DOJ. Notice how the study refers to 94% of post-9/11 claims of terrorist activity. Sorry for the misleading statement. It only concerns post-9/11 claims.

This study, sponsored by two national organizations, Project SALAM (Support And Legal Advocacy for Muslims) and the National Coalition to Protect Civil Freedoms (NCPCF), focuses on post-9/11 claims by the U.S. government that it keeps the country safe from terrorism by arresting hundreds of so-called “terrorists” who were about to strike the U.S. until the FBI foiled their plots.

Essentially the study argues that the FBI pre-emptively prosecutes Muslims through contrived entrapment schemes. A bit like the movie Minority Report, but without the futuristic Hollywood sensationalism.
To draw parallels with actual history, the FBI's pre-emption of alleged terrorist schemes harkens back to WWII when the US infamously interred 100,000 Japanese Americans into camps to pre-emptively foil any additional plots, post Pearl Harbor. Much like how we're corralling Muslims to foil alleged plots, POST 9/11.

With that said, the study is in line with other credible studies which conclude gov't pre-emption (such as the NSA Surveillance program) aren't proven to deter bonafide foreign/domestic terrorist attacks.

Inventing terrorists: Project SALEM - http://www.projectsalam.org/database.html

Pg-2: Overall, 94.2% of all the terrorism-related convictions on the DOJ list have been either preemptive prosecution cases or cases that involved elements of preemptive prosecution.

FBI Created a Terrorist: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrorist/

Trevor Aaronson reveals a disturbing FBI practice that breeds terrorist plots by exploiting Muslim-Americans with mental health problems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGG97dDfZ7E

FBI Terrorist attacks: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?_r=0
Jul 25 2015 2:53PM
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Big5hifty
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OP, you just need a calm, carefree life of smoking meth and praising our lord Satan.
Jul 26 2015 3:34PM
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GrabsForFun
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BravoWhiskey5280It's a change in the norm from what it used to be there's no denying that. Basically what I'm trying to say is that conservatives are f****** over progresses today. If we don't want to legal immigrants in this country where racist, if we don't believe in gay marriage we're bigots, if we say all live matter then we're forced to apologize for it. If we say that we demand you stop giving money to these black freeloaders that are littering our nation then we're racist. That we have to feel privileged if we're white. Don't you f****** get it, we're over it. And if you continue it, then we're going to f*** your ass up.


Did you just try to make a case against progress? That's hillarious.

And yes to me you are a bigot if you are against gay marriege. What kind of screwed up mindset makes you think equallity is a bad idea?
Jul 27 2015 10:01AM
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GrabsForFun
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The referenced post has been removed.


Whatever the case may be, many Jews used to take credit for his execution. Maimonides was a proponent for this view and certain high standing Jewish leaders and philosophers claimed that Jesus's punishment after death was to be boiled in excrement for all eternity. It made it easier for the Catholic church to oppress jews. This view is pretty rare amoung todays jews and only exists in certain ortodox communities.
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deleted5
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The referenced post has been removed.


There's actually no written record of the Romans ever crucifying a man named Jesus that the time frame of when you would have existed. Other than the bible and a letter found
Jul 28 2015 12:19PM
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qazwsxedc34
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onenerdykidGood thing you gave a source to back up that incredibly ludicrous sounding claim.


Or nah
Jul 28 2015 8:24PM
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RudyGarmisch
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DlCKYOU WANT TO SEE EXTREMEISM!



The only good Westboro has ever done is prove that America is actually a quite tolerant country when it comes to it.

Either that or they've proved that America's legal system and lawsuits in particular are ruining this country.
Jul 28 2015 10:02PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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I don't care about what you think of me or my views because I feel the same way about you and your views. It's all bullshit to me so your never going to convince me that your right.

You guys clearly are out of touch with the fundamental transformation going on in this country. You guys think that these new fundamentals are the result of some pure natural progression away from the old norms. That America society collectively came to a conscious consensus that being progressive and politically correct is the new norm. That's not the case though, this is all the result of a strategically manufactured plan surrounding immigration by progressives that started in the late 1950's. They knew that it would be impossible for their ideas to become a reality in America if they didn't do something to change the demographic of the American population at the time. They knew that that the majority of the American population wouldn't support their ideology so they had to do something about it if they wanted it to come into fruition. The fact that the Democrat party hasn't won the majority of the white populations vote, both men and women, in a presidential election since 1964 supports this. Therefore they decided to expose America's policy on immigration and use it as a tool to change the demographics in this country.

This is why immigration has with out a doubt the most important issue in America since the 1960's. It is the ONLY reason why progressives even have a voice today. If it weren't for the influx of immigrants in this country over the past 30 years than the last Democrat president would have been Lyndon B. Johnson. The existence of Liberalism as a dominant ideology in this country SOLELY relies on the sanctuary, the welfare, and the amnesty given to these illegal immigrants and their children. You can deny that all you want to make yourselves feel better, but it's a 100% fact that the fruition of your ideology would have never happened if it weren't for the illegal immigrants in this country.
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